TEK Video - Cold Water Extraction

[drguildo]

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Description:
How to extract the codeine from codeine and acetaminophen/paracetamol pills using cold water extraction.

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	Thanks for sharing this.
	Thanks.
	thanks
	SWIM really thinks it should not be on youtube! but good job posting this

[fiveleggedrat]

Comment:

100-120mg is too much for someone new to codeine. 30mg is a much better starting point. With tolerance, Swim does 150-200mg max.

I highly suggest purchasing a pill grinder from a pharmacy or grocery store for breaking up pills; they are very durable and save tons of time, and make it impossible to lose material that can go flying when breaking up pills. Alternatively, a mortar/pestle works great. Chinese import stores at Flea markets sell wooden ones for $1.

The chilling step is not needed. Swim always skips it.

Points for mentioning to prewet filters; this is often overlooked, and is important!

Thanks for sharing.

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[fiveleggedrat]

Originally Posted by Swimster

How pathetic. This guy is real smart. A CW-fucking-E.

Note: I hope the OP didn't make the vid(sorry/no effece, if so)

You would not believe how many people could not figure out how to CWE by reading it if their life depended on it. I think whoever made it has the right idea; I've been putting off making a CWE video to help out those less...uh...chemically inclined.

I remember not too long ago, Someone here came on asking why they did not get effects from their CWE; they threw out the water and ate the gunk.

Srsly.

[Swimster]

they threw out the water and ate the gunk.

Not to apear like an ashole but: Hehehehehe..hehehe!

You are wright, sometimes i just forget what i know isn't natural knowledge.

...but then-again, you might consider it lazy.

The best way to do a vid/tek is to visualize what you know compared to the Newguy. But then it takes longer to make though. But i mean, if you are going to make it, make sure it's the best.

[fiveleggedrat]

That's exactly why I have not made a single video; I could not make a good one. I don't have the proper equipment, mostly.

Shit, I'd make 'em so good I'd put them on DVD and sell it for informational purposes!

I've actually started writing a general book about drugs, that's actually accurate and dispels myths and bullshit. I'm going to start writing heavily in January, when I'm taking a break from school for at least a semester.

[Swimster]

"Shit, I'd make 'em so good I'd put them on DVD and sell it for informational purposes!"

"I've actually started writing a general book about drugs, that's actually accurate and dispels myths and bullshit. I'm going to start writing heavily in January, when I'm taking a break from school for at least a semester."

Cool man, lord knows society could use em.

[fiveleggedrat]

Thanks, I have lots of free time on my hands (evident by how frequent I post and how much I sit on here), and want to do something positive for the community. I want to give back, and do all I can to help everyone from making the same mistakes over and over.

[drguildo]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

100-120mg is too much for someone new to codeine. 30mg is a much better starting point. With tolerance, Swim does 150-200mg max.

I disagree. People are different so we can't give a specific value here, however 60mg is pretty much the de facto standard dose prescribed for pain relief. Needless to say the recreational dosage of prescription medicines are almost always greater than the therapeutic dose (I can't think of an example where this isn't the case) and codeine is no exception.

At 30mg I doubt most people are going to feel anything at all.

[former]

Thanks for the liver saving info...just to let u know if u have reached a point where u want to quit this stuff....Niacin...goes to the same receptor that opiates do. If fact valium(of course NOT an opiate) was derived from Niacin or Vitamin B3. or niacinamide. Niacin causing flushing and maybe unpleasant to the new user. You cannot overdose on vitamin B3. I suggest niacidimide. Look, if u are on any narcotic it's going to cause some damned unpleasant symptoms when u stop. B3 fools those receptors and makes the withdrawal easier and complete cessation shorter. Also Cal-Mag helps those aching joints and muscles. Magnesium needs the Calcium at the prepared doses found in drugstores etc. but if u can do it...take extra magnesium as a muscle relaxant. Then prepare to suffer a bit. I have come off of every drug group there is. I am 56 and I assure u that these supplements work to help alleviate the symptoms. Meanwhile if u must take opiates try and save that liver. Pain is real and these medications are sometimes/often necessary. If u live in Canada write your local College of Physcians and tell them. Write your MLA. Imagine if u had to get a script for a cigarette? These laws cause more problems than they protect. Let's see u can drink yourself to death but hey no painkillers. Also Doctors are usually ego maniacs with too much legal power. ..anyway best of luck. Don't think u feel opiates? you will when u stop taking them.
former(well, not yet but I'm working on it.)

former added 22 Minutes and 16 Seconds later...

Niacinmide Niacin and B3 are all the same thing. Do some research. It works. Got me off the big H years ago but i still use codeine(t3's) and in large dosages by most standards so I am always trying to get off of them. In the meanwhile while knowing about codeine separation(street name= skid) I was never quite sure it worked..(tolerance) but when the t3'a are low I will try it. Lat word right now. Screw with Narcotics and you'll likely be on them forever. Same as tranks(benzos) and NEVER take an anti depressant or as last resort. Hell your Dr. will give you all those u want and they are like most drugs not good. Oddly enuf..both my parents were pharmacists. Good luck.

former added 22 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

oh I more thing, my son died at 24 of a herion OD. He wasn't used to the drug in genral but when some pure stuff came around like it does once in a while ..it killed him and a lot of other novices with him. Man has being getting "high" since the beginning of time so no one should judge another because of the drug/s in question legal/social status but there is no reason not to be safe with any drug....even sugar. The every first drug the medical profession feeds you when u are born. BE SAFE or don't do them at al...that's my goal.

[TheNewLeft]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Comment:

100-120mg is too much for someone new to codeine. 30mg is a much better starting point. With tolerance, Swim does 150-200mg max.

man i never understood this...can any swimmers out there feel ANYTHING from 30-60mg codeine phosphate? even with no tolerance? the first time SWIM used codeine he ate 3 Tylenol Three's....smashed up.

then i quickly moved to 4....

then again, SWIM now need like 60mg of oxycodone or 80 of hydrocodone to catch a nod....haha

so maybe you're right

[former]

[QUOTE=fiveleggedrat;483444]Comment:

100-120mg is too much for someone new to codeine. 30mg is a much better starting point. With tolerance, Swim does 150-200mg max.

For people with a clean system....30mg-60mg is ample. My adult daughter recently took a OTC(over the counter) T1(Tylenol with 8 mgs of codeine) when she had a flu. She felt it and disliked it. She got the itch and everything. Most folk have zero tolerance.
I have a new Dr. I have to try and reason with. Doctors often send people to the street looking for pain relieve. Square folk that never broke a law in their lives! Unfortunately there is so much corruption in law enforcement and the doctors have the largest abuse rating among all professions that changing the laws are near impossible. Of course one has to have the gumption AND desire to gain public awareness and not be totalled first thing in the morn. but AT least the government could tax it and advise of the said products strength and educate our youth about the SCIENCE of drug use. California is pushing for the legalization of marijuana and if they suceed that will open the doors for other states and countries to do the same. Dr.s are governed by the largest ego maniacs of the planet, in this case The B.C. College of physicians who police the Dr.s dispensing habits. These people started out as making sure you had a M.D.and your dues were paid but nNOW they are failed Dr.s that couldn't cut being a General Practitoner(GP) policing the ones that can. It's beyond reason. Write them a letter and the your MLA and your MP as well. Bear in mind they could be bought off as well. Don't ne naive. Big Pharma doesn't want drugs legalized and they are much larger than the oil companies. So don't hold your breath.

[honourableone]

I agree that 30mg is a good starting dose, but for no other reason than ensuring that there is no allergic reaction (which is quite common with codeine) or hypersensitivity; someone with an allergy would be much safer if they only took a low dose.

However, while there are reports of people feeling incredibly small amounts of codeine, most people will need much more (a good second dose would be 100-120mg). Itching does not necessarily mean that significant psychoactive effects are being felt. SWIM always waits a long time betwen doses (thus never has tolerance) and 150mg does very little for him.

[Razorbladekiss]

Nice vid.

My Dalek is just checking ... is that the amount of fellow CWE'ers actually use in practice? s I know it varries with pill amounts it just seemed like it wasnt enough.

My Dalek always thought if there was a little more water the codeine will have more surface area to disolve into ... you get my Daleks drift.

Taste isnt an issue though ;-)

Razorbladekiss added 0 Minutes and 51 Seconds later...

What my Dalek ment was

* IS that the amount of WATER fellow CWE'ers ...

[honourableone]

Codeine dissolves in quite a small amount of water (I think an amount often quoted for CWE is 2ml per pill), so above quite a small amount of water all you're doing is allowing more paracetamol/acetaminophen to dissolve, without affecting the amount of codeine that dissolves (well, with less water more is likely to be trapped in the gunk, but using more water still isn't really worth the extra APAP that dissolves). The guy in the video uses tablets with a very large amount of codeine, meaning he only uses a few tablets, so the amount of water that he would need would be incredibly small.

SWIM's average CWE contains about 23 tablets, and he uses 60ml of water. He should probably use even less.

[RoboCodeine7610]

I disagree. People are different so we can't give a specific value here, however 60mg is pretty much the de facto standard dose prescribed for pain relief. Needless to say the recreational dosage of prescription medicines are almost always greater than the therapeutic dose (I can't think of an example where this isn't the case) and codeine is no exception.

Morphine,Ketamine,N2O and PCP (back in the day) are all recreational at therapeutic dosages, and codeine, indeed, is no exception.I have read numerous reports of people taking 60mg and feeling quite a bit of euphoria.

Although I do have to agree, 30mg is too little even to start with.

[AceOvArts]

In Nurofen Plus in the UK, Codeine equates to 12.5mg in each pill, they advise people to take 1 or 2 up to 4 times a day, so thats 25mg of Codeine in one hit. This figure is so close to 30mg I doubt they would suggest this amount if it were possible to get a nod from it. Though it is better to be safe than sorry, SWIMs personal opinion would be 60mg starter dose.
However back to OP thread, SWIM thinks this is a cool informative vid on CWE, SWIM personally wouldnt have shown so much of his house though You never know who is looking do you?

[psychedelaholic]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Comment:

100-120mg is too much for someone new to codeine. 30mg is a much better starting point. With tolerance, Swim does 150-200mg max..

SWIM thinks that's sounds pretty low. SWIM would say say 100mg would be a good starting dose as that would be equivalent to 10mg of morphine. SWIM requires 300mg for a good dose and whilst he is very experienced with opiates (has done 10 or so different ones) he doesn't do them often so doesn't have that much of a tolerance.

[darkglobe]

Comment:

Agree with point made above, although all in all it is a good video.

Again, prewetting filters is oft-overlooked, well done.

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[Lontano]

Hello all.

I am new on this. I have been suffering from depression and found out that 3 tablets of Cocodamol (8mg Codeine 500mg paracetamol) reliefs a lot my condition. I can say that 24mg of codeine do make me feel good. The only problem is the paracetamol which can destroy your liver. So I watched the Cold Water Extraction video and I have a question. What kind of filter is prewet filter ? Where I can buy it ? I live in the UK.

Thanks for any feedback.

[0utrider]

SWIM is VERY suprised why nobody criticizes putting this video on youtube in the first place! remember salvia? now banned in many states & countries, due to youtube! the same goes for a couple of other "legal" highs. soon, there won't be any OTC opioid/opiates at all!
SWIM really thinks this video should not be put on youtube, as youtubes audience is just the wrong audience, far too public!