Smoking - Smoking MDMA

[Synesthesiac]

Anyone done this? swims presuming its a waste as he's never seen anyone do it personally, but read a couple of reports saying it gets you really fucked, but only for a short while.

[KomodoMK]

To my knowledge it has little to no effect.

EDIT:
Just performed a Google search and found information on Erowid and user reports on a certain colouredlight forum. The general consensus is that it is a waste, even with pure MDMA crystals. Slight physical and mental effects can be felt, and increase in alertness and quite commonly a headache. Certainly one to be avoided. To be fair if that route of administration had any advantages it would be well document with a drug as popular as MDMA

Hope I've helped.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

To my knowledge it has little to no effect.

EDIT:
Just performed a Google search and found information on Erowid and user reports on a certain colouredlight forum. The general consensus is that it is a waste, even with pure MDMA crystals. Slight physical and mental effects can be felt, and increase in alertness and quite commonly a headache. Certainly one to be avoided. To be fair if that route of administration had any advantages it would be well document with a drug as popular as MDMA

Hope I've helped.

Yeah thanks, thats what I thought. When you smoke a substance your generally changing its chemical composition as it burns, so obviously with mdma it ruins the actual effects of the drug. I woudn't imagine it tastes very nice either. swim certainly aint gonna be trying it out to see.

[chillinwill]

SWIM has tried it with MDMA crystals and noticed slight stimulant effects and a sense of well being but that was about the extent of it. Nowhere close as other routes of administration and the effects that were felt were very short lived as well

[KomodoMK]

My little fishy read an IV (or maybe IM) MDA experience on here some time ago. That really made him want to try the same with MDMA, but he refuses to use needles.

If there was an offer to do it in a clinical environment with clean product he would snap it up in a second though. The rush would be nothing short of pure blissful heaven if it wasn't completely overwhelming!

[Panthers007]

I can see, chemically speaking, how the molecule would break-down into oxidized precursors. These could cause an adrenergic (speedy feeling) reaction that might hint of the desired molecule, but would wear off quickly and, possibly, trigger a head-ache. As these oxidized molecules are unknown regards their physiological effects and toxicity - I'd avoid this at all costs. The Bunny might be inviting something nasty. Like cancer.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

I can see, chemically speaking, how the molecule would break-down into oxidized precursors. These could cause an adrenergic (speedy feeling) reaction that might hint of the desired molecule, but would wear off quickly and, possibly, trigger a head-ache. As these oxidized molecules are unknown regards their physiological effects and toxicity - I'd avoid this at all costs. The Bunny might be inviting something nasty. Like cancer.

I'm just curious if you know what precursors it could break down into? Since SWIM has done this, he is slightly worried about the fact that cancer could be the result even though this was over a year ago

[Panthers007]

That's the problem - they are unknown. That's the risk. Cancer was a far-fetched possibility. But all these issues should be factored into the equation. My conclusion: Don't.

[Junkhead23]

SWIM has smoked ecstasy before and was fucked but that may have been due to the 25 tablets he had already ingested/insufflated

[Swimster]

Well, with ecstacy, one might be feeling effects of meth cut into the tablet. Unless the person knows that it is pure MDMA, although.

[magicmik]

Swim has smoked/vaporised pure mdma crystals off foil; like chasing the dragon. It has an effect. works within 2 mins, dilated pupils, jaw clenching and a more heavy woozy high than oral. In 30 mins had completly gone. Left feeling a bit empty and a mild headache.

You need to smoke it off foil as the mdma mets then turns to vapor so if you smoked in a bong like swim first tried it drips away. Don't try this in an enclosed glass vaporisor (like a light bulb) the vapor is too hot/toxic and melts your lungs, literally.

In swims opinion its worth a try (why not) but has a higher potential for abuse as swim hit a few times in 30-mins where as with oral its one trip then left alone.

Love trying new things its the spice of life.

[dazedandconfused44]

swim has seem someone smoke a half meth half mdma pill. The monkey put the pill in a shaft and smoked it in the bong. he was fucked for a bit

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by bobdoley

swim has seem someone smoke a half meth half mdma pill. The monkey put the pill in a shaft and smoked it in the bong. he was fucked for a bit

who by?

[KomodoMK]

LOL Synesthesiac.

I would think the meth was the only thing that had any real effect when he smoked it. You would have to be an idiot to smoke pills anyway, with all the bonders, fillers and god knows what adulterants in. Your just asking for health complications by doing such a thing.

[dazedandconfused44]

nah, swim thinks he was a champ. his life goal was to shoot heroin on his 19th.

[KomodoMK]

And so... the clever/dumb balance has been restored.

Sorry, I was going to make a reply but for some reason I had that one sentence from a TV advert in the back of my mind just begging me to post it.

[lovejoy]

Could MDMA powder be converted into a base like substance (as with coke) to make it smokable?

[KomodoMK]

I believe the base of MDMA is an oily fluid so difficult to smoke. It can probably be converted to a salt but I'm far from being any chemistry expert... anyone else elaborate on this?

[Fantasian]

@lovejoy - yes but the process is complex (there are a few isolated reports) and the high still isnt as good as when it is taken orally, SWIMS should just accept that oral or rectal are the most effective routes. IV might be an option to get a one off experience but again the whole experience suits oral in so many ways, duration, length of peak, the drug is already intense enough when taken orally.

[KomodoMK]

Little fishy would never IV anything really, but would love to try it with MDMA before he dies.

Anyway, did a little research and found an experience report for you which has 5 different routes of administration. (Oral, insufflated, rectal, smoked, and IV). You can read each here: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=65224

(Off topic): Interesting how it says that oral by far has the worst comedown.

[Fantasian]

Thats a very interesting articule, SWIF has been interested in the IV route for quite a while and has enquired about it elsewhere on the forum, the obvious problem would be not wanting to IV anything other than MDMA and who knows what is in MDMA crystal these days.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

Thats a very interesting articule, SWIF has been interested in the IV route for quite a while and has enquired about it elsewhere on the forum, the obvious problem would be not wanting to IV anything other than MDMA and who knows what is in MDMA crystal these days.

Completely agree, would love to read more on that route of administration. There is an in depth post on here about an IV experience of MDA which I really enjoyed reading - would love to see the same for MDMA. I may look into it more in the morning and will post anything decent I find about IV MDMA.

[RaverHippie]

Here are the threads that came up from the injecting prefix search in the MDMA forum

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60020
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66645

Also, I've yet to hear a comparison of smoking MDMA which would be anything near the euphoria and fulfillment felt by the anal/oral routes of administration. It seems like a wasted route since smoking multiple doses successively wouldn't be very productive or possible given the mechanism of action for MDMA.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

Here are the threads that came up from the injecting prefix search in the MDMA forum

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60020
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66645

Also, I've yet to hear a comparison of smoking MDMA which would be anything near the euphoria and fulfillment felt by the anal/oral routes of administration. It seems like a wasted route since smoking multiple doses successively wouldn't be very productive or possible given the mechanism of action for MDMA.

Thanks for taking the time to look up those threads for me and whoever maybe interested. I shall take a read now.

[Fantasian]

There is another one that describes in detail IV MDA, which appears to discuss the idea in much more length. it's here - http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ntravenous+MDA