4-ho-dipt (iprocin)- bit dissapointed

[Peyote]

SWIM tried 4-ho-dipt 4 hours ago (17mg) and is pretty disappointed.
Just a +..Redosed 2 times (15mg each) and still nothing. I felt
different, and few uncontrolled laughs but that's it..



Felt pleasent the whole time but it didn't go anywhere from that, just
a mellow feeling. Could it be the 4-ho-dipt (not pure enough)?

[BlueMystic]

Could be any of a number of factors. Weak or old product, a recent or natural tolerance to tryptamines or this particular tryptamine, full stomach, meds that you might be on the could be interacting with the iprocin, or your particular body/neurological chemistry. You could take these factors into account and do repeated experiments to see if anything changes with different situations and narrow down on what happened that particular day, or to see if this is a normal thing with you and this chem.

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[ISBN]

How long after your first dose did you redose and re-redose?

4-HO-DIPT has a steep response curve ("There have been a number of trials at and below the 10 milligram bottom, and most have been substantially without activity. And yet, there have been no trials at higher than 20 milligrams, as far as I know. That is a lot of steepness in the dose-response curve."). 4-HO-DIPT also varies widely from person to person, more than many RCs (with 20mg, Shulgin reported flirting with a ++++, while another member of the group found 20mg to be quite mild).
So when you combine a steep curve and unpredictable dosing with a substances that is quite mild (much more tacticle than visual), you
have the makings of a lackluster experience.

[Peyote]

An hour/an hour and a half after first dose. The stuff ain't old, about a week.



My mate did the same dosing as me and had the same result..



How long should I wait before taking another trip with Iprocin??

[knowname]

This is the first RC I've wanted to try, or now, it seems maybe not. Could've been for any reason though, I guess.

[BlueMystic]

Unless you got the chem directly off of the assembly line, so to speak, or if you know when it was made. You can never know how old the product is. You could wait a few more days to a week or moreto try again withouthaving to worryabout tolerance issues. Swim would wait at least a full week to be sure. Let us know what happens.

[Peyote]

I am gonna try it next week, maybe end of this week.

Thanks for the help guys.

[anj0vis]

I'd take all of that at once, iprocin is so quick that 1.5 hours means the first dose is already gone by the time you take the second. Just try, say, 30-40mg into an empty stomache and you should feel it fine. Some friends like this at 50-80mg level and there it is strong.

[GDxCAT]

^^ i agree with anj0vis.

iprocin tends to be a bit mild and lower than 20-22mg never got me where i wanted to go.

It is also pretty irractic with its effects 24mg could give me a strong
+++ one day and then the next time i take the same dose i could be at a
+.

Its the only tryptamine with such irratic behavious that i have encountered.

[hippie_lain]

Same rcs seem to just not work very well on people. Had a friend that tried 5-meo-dmt and just got high from it. So this one might not be for you...diffently try a higher dose tho..hit and miss is my theory, so your bound to hit sometime

[serpent]

i had an amazing experience on 12 mgs of iprocin,but havent been able to repeat it,even taking 25mg doses,however there may have been cross tolerance with other tryptamines.

[anj0vis]

5-meo-dmt, by the way, is one chemical that hits *hard* everytime for *all* people that just use a proper technique. 10mg is a lot for anybody, I say! But indeed, iprocin is less steady. As I said, I like 30-40mg, all at once in powder or liquid into empty stomache.

[allyourbase]

iprocin is boring, but never have my midget slaves found any sort of tolerance build up to it, as a matter of fact a friend of one of my midget slave's says hes tripped on it every day for more than a week in the past, with no need to adjust the dosage.

[anj0vis]

boring? at what doses? oh well.. I guess the difference really is large then. Lack of tolerance is very strange indeed..

[gn2osis]

Empty stomach is essential, and tolerance could have kicked in for your
subsequent doses. Even though you didn't feel much as 17 mg, I
wouldn't go over 25 mg for the next dose. Steep dose-response
curve.

[Triple7]

For me it takes upto 70 minutes before I feel effect. Usually I take 30mg, but I have also taken 60mg.



A good way to ruin your trip, is to eat before you take the RC..
last february I tried 40mg AMT + 20mg 4-AcO-DiPT + Big Mc Meal... the
result was weaker than 20mg AMT on empty stomach.



4-HO-DiPT is kind of lottery.. some trips are weak some are stronger,
even if the dosing, setting, stomach contents etc are the same. Had
once a weak 30mg trip, like yours 17mg.

[GoaM]

Damn. I still have a vial from RAC Research, from before the Web Trypt sweep. It's NOT boring. 16mg blew me away. The combo with MDMA was fantastic. Your product is weak or oxidised.

[prospero]

I once took 15mg of 4-ACO-DIPT and barely anything of interest happened, and I was very disappointed and pretty much gave up on it.A while later Itook 25mg, just to use it up, and had the most amazing trip. It certainly has a steep dose/response curve and if 17mg didn't do it I'd have another go at about 25-30mg before giving up completely.

[mariecurie]

17 mg of 4-ho-dipt is indeed a very small amount. Also, with
tryptamines, once you get to the end of the peak you develop tolerance.
Thus your redoses were probably just a waste of chemical.



Try thirty milligrams and I promise you won't be disappointed.
Alternatively, find some 4-ho-mipt since it's essentially the upgrade

[Peyote]

Pfffff...Iprocin rocks!! I've had few more trips with more 4-ho-dipt..This stuff is wonderfull! I'll write up soon a tripreport when I can be arsed...



Iprocin

[yajw]

It took a number of experiments to find what worked well for SWIM.
Initially 17mg, then a couple at 19mg. They were pleasant, but left the
feeling that there was more to get out of the compound. The last
experiment of 23.6mg was quite rewarding, for the time frame alloted
for it.



SWIM does enjoy this compound for what it is, but is looking forward to
finally getting arounf to some of the MIPT compounds for comparison.
But there are so many items already in the line-up, I've heard.

[HippieD9]

Me and my gnomes have all tried it and found it lacking, at 18mg. I thought it was going somewhere good for about 2 min, and then it just stayed there. Gnome 1 said it reminded him of X, just a nice body buzz. Gnome 2 said it was ok, but far from special. All of us felt like shit later too. YMMV





Peace,


D.

[Peyote]

Iprocin is not for the trippers who want a strong trip! Iprocin is
reallly REALLY nice once you learn to deal with it. My last experience
has been so rewarding and nice, that it has moved on to no.1 spot!



My last experience with Iprocin is how I COKE expected to be
before I tried it. Social, warm, happy, funny and better music.



Visually its not that great, perhaps at real high doses. You see lots
of glows/glowth though. Iprocin is just a relax high, excellent
for escaping the reality for a while. With Iprocin you NEED music to
apprieciate it! I am an audiophile and I really love to listen to
music. My hearing was beyond believing good when 4-HO-DiPT
started to work..I still amazed!! My mate has an old laptop with really
really bad speakers but that shit sounded like the best 5.1 speakers
you can get on the market. So clear and loud and I could feel the bass
in my body. I can't describe how fucked up amazed I was by that

[thatsall]

whats 4 ho dipt

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