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Old 13-10-2008, 21:36
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Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

Mr. Awesome, hereinto referenced as the protagonist mind, would like to propose an question of ethics: What is the correct moral decision to make regarding the sharing of drugs?

Mr. A grew up in a small town of peaceful people, he has strong attempted moral structuring by his progenitors, but that is somewhat abstract. He is in a setting where peers of his age he ends up associating with are generally well-to-do people who enjoy living their structured and straight lives inside their cage. They are, of course, usually stemming from the popular culture of idiotic teens these days who drink to get stupid and smoke to get high enough where they can interact with "Dude, did you see football last night" and "I totally would have banged that chick, but I was soooo high".

Anyway, Mr. A is a very free thinking individual who is fed up with doing what other people, including the government, want of him. This, of course, ties into the use of tools to propagate his connotation and relay of the sensory world. Although Mr. A can talk objectively about his life, he is still human and loves his peers. With that in mind, he always jumps to desiring to broadcast the greatness and catharsis he envelops through said experiences to his relations. But with his setting in mind, and partially Mr. A's objective nature of presentation, the responses he receives usually fall in the low but still hostile and or astoundment prototype.

Mr. A is somewhat confused by this, because when he was with his friends he would have been ecstatic of someone would have offered him the chance in reciprocation to his current practices. He would have loved to been able to discuss with someone the effects of a drugs and the gateways of the offerer's experience. Mr. A is dumbstruck by comments, most notably in his mind, "Wow, doesn't he make that drug sound not bad at all?" When Mr. A was giving a complete regurgitation his experience in an unbiased manner. In those situations he feels almost like lashing out, "are you kidding me!?" he wants to say. He wants to scream "are you really that scared, stupid, anxious or ignorant to respond so negatively to a report?" Mr. A does not condone drug use outside of one's comfort level nor against one's wishes; but he feels really strange when he delivers clean and positive information to people and receives a response that is full of ignorance.

With that in mind, Mr. A has given people recounts of his LSD experiences (which changed his life and ultimately caused him to develop a schema towards rejecting all forms of downers, uppers, and synthetics outside of the natural order) and feels a sense that the people he is presenting to are responding in a socially-influenced way. And you can probably guess what that is "O wow, did you trip balls!?!??!?! O WOW HALLUCINATIONS DID YOU SEE SHIT" Mr. A gets sick when he sees that purposeful reasoning applied to drug use. He feels discouraged when he attempts to share meaningful experiences and present a key to the gateway and he gets a feeling it doesn't matter to anyone because they are so into their synthetic lives they don't even consider looking outside it.

More importantly, Mr. A would like to hear your thoughts on the matter. He is at a point where he doubt he will discontinue to offer keys to people, because he really hopes he will be given the same. When Mr. A pops St. Johns Wort or valarian he will always feel a morality to check with his friends if they would like to share the experience, and will gladly provide any and all unbiased information he has on the subject. But it is starting to feel after a while his offerings are becoming a pariah, and perhaps he should make a conscious effort to hide that part of himself.

P.S. People who smoke pot usually come up with the same resistance. Mr. A questions, are they not experiencing the spiritual aspects at all and purely smoke to be social? (Mr. A tries to not smoke pot because it effects him too harshly)

NOTE: 'peers' referenced usually do smoke pot and are not akin to a... active abstinencetoward broader life experiences. Mr. A is not a shady kid who sits at street corner and offers people first hits of crack for free. He is not actively promoting, he is with friends and generally wants to share.

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  Good topic, and well written. This is a common frustration for many people.
  
  Ha! I can relate. Good post.
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Old 13-10-2008, 23:46
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Re: Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

Face it, you might be a loner in your pool of life. Expand beyond the circle of life long friends.
They do drugs to get high not to expand their knowledge.
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Old 14-10-2008, 15:06
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Re: Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

I don't see the absolute harm in people who use drugs to get high if they have no intention of expanding their knowledge. If the drug use isn't effecting anyone else, it basically doesn't matter. Leave people to their devices and if you want to broaden your own horizons attempt to find like-minded people who are on the same level intellectually. It seems to be something of a recurring theme that drug users have to come up with some loony reason to justify their own personal, harmless drug use. Problems may arise but it's on their table, not yours.

I have nothing against someone who just says "I like to get high" without offering a quest for mystical enlightenment or having to write a thesis on the potential psychiatric use of 2,5-dimethoxy-4-(β-isobutylthio)phenethylamine. Drug use is a very broad spectrum. People go about it in earnest and people go about it for fun. SWIM does both.
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Re: Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

swim doesn't particularly believe in the responsible use of drugs, if its enjoyable and people don't get needlessly hurt then go with it. but then pain is in the eye of the beholder
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Re: Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

Its a hit and miss topic for Swim. Swim either has A) intelligent drug using friends who look to Swim for advice and information or B) Anti-drug friends who won't even tolerate a mention of any drug use or info. B is certainly an annoying bunch who Swim certainly spends less time with. A is much preferable. Swim used to have C) Idiots who use drugs irresponsibly. He left C alone a long time ago.

Swim offers drugs to his using friends regularly. Swim turned his pot smoking friend on to benzos, opioids, salvia, and other similar drugs. She has become interesting in the same things as Swim, and the knowledge that goes with them. She likes to learn it seems, which is a nice chance. Swim also taught her all the mechanisms of pot and all that. She is a very responsible person, usually even more so than Swim. She shows no desire for strong, more addictive drugs. She also won't touch stimulants of any type, like Swim, which is nice. She has agreed to try pure cocaine when Swim bothers to obtain some, which is a long time away. She also tried hydromorphone and tramadol with Swim (neither worked for some reason), and had an insane salvia experience which she was not expecting. It was very positive, and opened her eyes a bit on the issue of drugs. Swim preaches often on drugs and the benefits they offer, and she agrees with Swim. Although, at the end of the day, all she wants is her traditional pot; this makes Swim feel that he has done no damage or harm to her by educating her on drugs. Swim used to fear she would go a bad route from being exposed to hard drugs, but she simply has chosen not to.
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Re: Ethicality of offering drugs to friends

SWIM hears you and is glad you can fill the niche that SWIM sees SWIM feels he may have directed his topic a little abstractly and would like more opinions of just the offering to friends bit.

To SWIPP (Previous Poster) : SWIM would recommend a cocaine trial, but he would also say don't buy too much at once :/ SWIM went through a 20 himself his first night. That was a small amount but SWIM did not like the fact he wanted to reup all night. SWIM would really recommend MDMA (although he has never tried powder yet :/ but he would really suggest MDMA over coke any day. SWIM doesnt get much from MDMA and thus has an affinity for amphetamine, but he would say if your with a buddy (SWIM remembers some great times :P) it will be a very nice experience.
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