Effects - Why do some people prefer benzodiazepines over opiates?

[ihavequestions]

i dont see how this is possible. sure swim likes benzos. but he would choose an opiate of a benzo any day.

from what swim sees opiates provide the same effect as benzos. the only difference is that opiate dont have the amnesia aspec to it. instead it is replaced by abody high/warmth with some pretty intense euphoria.

so why use a benzo if it is clearly not up to par to an opiate?

for example, if swiy had a bottle of your favorite benzo and a bottle of your favorite opiate in swiy house what would make you in the mood for a benzo instead of an opiate?

[Spare Chaynge]

People often go from wanting that high/warmth feeling to just wanting to feel nothing at all because of mistakes done while on opiates. also benzos are cheaper.

swim would pick the bottle of opiates.... but after years of doing dope he got sick of the withdrawals and picked something that was actually a wolf in sheep clothing's.. alprazolam.

[fiveleggedrat]

It's just because people have different preferences. Swim LOATHES alcohol, but so many people absolutely love it and could not live without it, or so they say.

Swim personally prefers opioids over benzos. Nothing beats euphoria and nodding. Swim just usually blacks out and forgets his whole benzo experience.

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This is pretty much in line with what SWIM has experienced.

[Pope Albacore]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Swim personally prefers opioids over benzos. Nothing beats euphoria and nodding. Swim just usually blacks out and forgets his whole benzo experience.

SWIM says he agrees very much with this as many of his experiences with benzos would lead to blackouts. With opioids, SWIM tells of a dreamlike state full warmth and slightly orgasmic shudders. This being said, SWIM reminds one that both have their pros and cons.

SWIM says that for years he used many benzos due to their availability and cheap price. The feeling SWIM seemed to enjoy from benzos was the initial onset of the chemical(especially when combined with different forms of alcohol). When SWIM looks back, benzos made it hard enjoy much except great sleep.

As far as opioids go, SWIM enjoys the initial wave of warm relaxation as he slides into a cloudlike comfort zone. Due to prices and scarcity in SWIM's realm he has not explored as many of these wonderful products as he would like to. SWIM does remember a few physical ailments attributed to the opioids, such as slowed bowels and labored breathing. At the time, SWIM thought this a very small price to pay for the euphoria.

SWIM says one must choose their poisons by weighing their options. SWIM would prefer to ride the opioid wave into the land of nod. SWIM also says that the benzo bus often ends with one waking up on the street in a Mexican border town dressed like a pirate. Choose wisely.

-Pope Albacore

[lorzapmail]

SWim likes variety. SWim enjoys norcos and Clonzepam or Lorezapam. Eneregy then a nod then more energy. Never used "H" so swim still haves fun with these drugs. Swim also cleans out about every three weeks. SWim must edit swims repy and go with opioids. The need of a pain killer is something the anxiety meds need can't touch.Not that a anxiey and a panic atack are't scary, Pains is much worse.... "Decades of learning can even train a stupid horse."

[SuprSonik]

SWIM prefers benzos in cases where he needs to act relatively straight, like at work, for anxiety purposes, or when he needs to knock himself out quickly. Opioids make SWIM feel too good to want to go to sleep right away, he just fights the sedation so that he can fully enjoy the nod and euphoria. Benzos feel less impairing to SWIM when taken at standard dosages. SWIM would easily take an opioid over a benzo for recreational purposes, though.

[InstantKarma]

Originally Posted by SuprSonik

SWIM prefers benzos in cases where he needs to act relatively straight, like at work, for anxiety purposes, or when he needs to knock himself out quickly. Opioids make SWIM feel too good to want to go to sleep right away, he just fights the sedation so that he can fully enjoy the nod and euphoria. Benzos feel less impairing to SWIM when taken at standard dosages. SWIM would easily take an opioid over a benzo for recreational purposes, though.

Agree completely. Even if swim doesn't remember much after the benzos, at least she is not obviously nodding out in the middle of work or class.

H is only for weekends at this point.

[lorzapmail]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

It's just because people have different preferences. Swim LOATHES alcohol, but so many people absolutely love it and could not live without it, or so they say.

Swim personally prefers opioids over benzos. Nothing beats euphoria and nodding. Swim just usually blacks out and forgets his whole benzo experience.

.................

Swim agrees alcohol is the pits. Funny swim use to love it. With the power of opioids, benzos are good for withdrwal or sometime fun Swim is stilly mainly into this for pain

[blackdb1]

Swim has always wondered about this also... Swim always thought why take a benzo over opiates? He ALWAYS took opiates instead of benzodiazepines because he got a great euphoria along with great anxiolytic properties! That was the way it went until swim got severely hooked on opiates...

Swim eventually started injecting and decided to go on suboxone and a psychiatrist appointment was scheduled. Swim discovered he had GAD, SAD, panic disorder, ADHD, etc... Swim was told he self medicating in a way and was put on alprazolam 0.5mgs 3x a day and that night suboxone 16mgs a day. A couple weeks later the sub Dr. added Klonazepam 2mgs 2x a day.

Now swim takes benzos for his anxiety in a non-recreational way. He does not want to go back to opiate addcition and therefore takes benzos which work as well as opiates minus the euphoria and high!

So swim sees how people would prefer benzos in a similar case to his. Sorry for the super long post but swim wanted to give a full perspective on why someone might prefer one to the other!!!

All have a great night and BE SAFE!!! -bdb1-

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Good explanation.

[Laudaphun]

Opiates have always been SWIM's marmoset's favorite drug, but after years and years of them, SWIM doesn't get that warm feeling anymore. SWIM would rather spend $10 a month for a bottle of benzos, than spend $100/day TRYING to get that warm fuzzy feeling she once got from opiates. And in the end, nothing gives you the same feeling you once got.

So basically, I think a lot of people start taking opiates and eventually get tolerances that are so high that they can no longer get anything other than normalcy from opiates so then they resort to benzos to try and stoke the fire.

...and then they drown in a bowl of cereal.

[Matt The Funk]

Originally Posted by Laudaphun

Opiates have always been SWIM's marmoset's favorite drug, but after years and years of them, SWIM doesn't get that warm feeling anymore. SWIM would rather spend $10 a month for a bottle of benzos, than spend $100/day TRYING to get that warm fuzzy feeling she once got from opiates. And in the end, nothing gives you the same feeling you once got.

So basically, I think a lot of people start taking opiates and eventually get tolerances that are so high that they can no longer get anything other than normalcy from opiates so then they resort to benzos to try and stoke the fire.

...and then they drown in a bowl of cereal.

Exactly! Plus benzo's give SWIM more confidence and have more anti-anxiety properties for him.

[CrookedEye]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

i dont see how this is possible. sure swim likes benzos. but he would choose an opiate of a benzo any day.

from what swim sees opiates provide the same effect as benzos. the only difference is that opiate dont have the amnesia aspec to it. instead it is replaced by abody high/warmth with some pretty intense euphoria.

so why use a benzo if it is clearly not up to par to an opiate?

for example, if swiy had a bottle of your favorite benzo and a bottle of your favorite opiate in swiy house what would make you in the mood for a benzo instead of an opiate?

SWIM was an opiate addict for 7 years, and once addicted, he rarely ever could sleep on opiates.. He may nod off temproarily, but never really felt rested or got any decent sleep.. He enjoyed them before he got addicted, for the euphoria.. Since being clean after an ibogaine session, they didn't feel the same, and are not very enjoyable.. Benzo's, however, help SWIM sleep, when he uses them infrequently, as well as take the edge off or loosen him up, plus make him have a tremendous appetite.. He enjoys sleeping and eating, and benzo's seem to help with these things, even moreso than pot, and definitely more than opiates of any kind. SWIM thinks after becoming addicted to opiates, they tremendously hinder normal sleep patterns, and make one numb to any other interests.. Benzo's help relieve anxiety and worrisome thoughts..

[lorzapmail]

Do to the extreme adictive power of opiates. It is hard to see anyone not favoring them. Only alcoholics swim has met care less about opioids. Several like combination but opiods are the root of adiction Once you have been on herion,etc. for a few weeks swim sees no turning back.Best to not start.

[PsychoActivist]

SWIM is a pod tea junkie but he gets burnt out on them sometimes and really wishes he had some alprazolam. He used to have a Xanax script but he abused them too much. He has gone through phases. At times he has preferred benzos over opiates and at other times Vise Vesra. It all depends on where he is at in his life. Some people Have major anxiety issues and when they take a recreational dose of benzo's, not only do they get high from it but it dissolves their inhinitions, reduces their anxiety and therefore produces a sense of freedom and weight that is lifted off their shoulders. Just as some people have chronic physical pain and also abuse opiates. When they take a recreational dose of an opiate not only do they get high but it gives them freedom from their pain.
The short answer is different strokes for different folks.

[Alucard]

+1 for euphoria and nodding vs. sedation and memory loss

swim gets tingly just thinking about opiates but there's not much drive towards benzos

[TheContrivance]

It depends on the person and their personality and mood. High anxiety people would probably prefer the benzo just to be normal and deal with day to day situations. SWIM also believes it depends on the situation...SWIM wouldn't slam a couple bags if SWIM was about to go to work for example, but would indeed pop a xanax. SWIM would take a bottle of opiates over a bottle of benzos anytime though simply due to SWIM'S preference in drugs

[Cryptic Concoction]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

i dont see how this is possible. sure swim likes benzos. but he would choose an opiate of a benzo any day.

from what swim sees opiates provide the same effect as benzos. the only difference is that opiate dont have the amnesia aspec to it. instead it is replaced by abody high/warmth with some pretty intense euphoria.

so why use a benzo if it is clearly not up to par to an opiate?

for example, if swiy had a bottle of your favorite benzo and a bottle of your favorite opiate in swiy house what would make you in the mood for a benzo instead of an opiate?

To say that benzodiazepines are not up to par to opiates is a purely subjective judgement value. You should understand that perceptions of the world vary greatly across people. Not only will these perceptions differ, but each drug will effect each individual differently for a variety of reasons.

In their sedative effects, benzodiazepines and opiates may seem somewhat similar, but I consider them to be very distinct drugs and different people will invariably seek different effects in psychotropics.

The relative quality of different drugs is subjectively determined, so we cannot establish a universal code from which drugs are "better."

[Politicalchalk]

Some like it hot, some like it cold, some like it in the pot 9 days old!

[claroscura]

Essentially, if one enjoys the effects of alcohol, one should enjoy the effects of benzos in a very similar way, because they are similar CNS depressants. (Funfact: Benzodiazepines are actually sometimes used to treat withdrawal in recovering alcoholics).

An acquaintance prefers benzos over opiates because of their ability to decrease anxiety, which is something this person struggles with regularly. They're also more readily available because they are prescribed to this person specifically for anxiety. It is my opinion that people who deal with anxiety are more appreciative of the downing effects of benzos, and just the ability to be calm and sedated for a while, which may be entirely novel and thrilling in itself for a person who is often anxious.

Different brains prefer different drugs.