please help me, so depresed

i have been doing ecstasy for about 2yrs, and have NEVER, had a problem with it, its always been an amazing time



on friday night, i did 4 pills round my m8's house, everything was normall, and i was loving it.



the next day at work, i consumed 3 all together, doing halfs through
the day, still, eveything was normall, ( except my pupils stayed small )



then, i went round to my m8's house that nite, took 6 pills, double
droped, but when i came up, it was the worst time of my life, i was
just having intence rushes, and the worst thing is, there was no loved
up feeling, NOTHING, even when the rushes had stoped, can someone
please tell me whats wrong with me, but i cants stop pills for more
then a week, so dont say give up lol



p.s my m8 was using the same pills, and he was fine!

[xcite]

have just encountered the same problem myself

downed 7 through out the day on friday and all was good ,

worked saturday and was fine... but then after work when i got home i was listening to some music and just broke down and



pills were fine, plenty of love on them, now im down im in emotional pain

sux

[hippie_lain]

You have seritonin sickness. Try taking some 5-ht or other supplements that help replenish seritonin. Its very important to stop now, or at least take a break. The magic of x will be gone if you dont take a long break. Good luck

[jrock0069]

They call it post e depression. The serotonin in your brain is what controls your mood. Taking x depletes your serotonin levels. Try taking 5HTP-Tryptobal(serotonin builder). You can get it from any nutrition center or you can just wait a week or two for your body to replenish your serotonin supply. I have experienced the same thing in the past, I was taking a minimum of 8 pills a night, sometimes for days in a row. After I would go on an e binge it would sometimes take as much as a month to rebuild my mental level. My best advice would be to take a break for a little while and you will be fine.

[breezer]

Maybe youre body is getting used to these pills But i think that the real problem is thatthese daysMDMA is not found very oftenin pills anymore...Amphetamine and more likely PMA took the place of MDMA, and if these pills have brown particles in it even heroine maybe present. The reasonfor this is that it is problaby less expensive tomanufacture.But PMA has another effect than MDMA and ismore dangerousfor an overdose, a few people in my countrydied the last 2 years of PMA and some had to be taken to the hospital so be a bit carefull. If you want to know what the effect of PMA is check out shulgins book PHIKAL: a chemical love story. It is easily found on the web so take a look.

[billbong]

My advice, although probably not favourable to 2 is to MODERATE, if you don't you WILL lose the magic. Most people who lose the magic never get it back, so just be carful.

[scrappy]

I agree with billbong.


I'll write an account of SWIM's experience with E. SWIM used to go on 5 day binges, take 10 pills in a couple days, etc. Your typical ecstasy lover.SWIM never came close to losing the magic butSWIM did begin to notice a pattern with heavy ecstasy use in whichhis comedowns became more predominate than the actual experience andhe wouldhave e-tarted days wherehe'd believehe could be considered mentally retarted by medical science.


OnceSWIM noticed this patternhe tried to remedy it while still taking ecstasy by slowing down his intake. While slowing down his binges helped he still felt the magic slipping away. Since thenhe quit E all-together for a initially planned 6 months due to a collaboration of reasons (don't have the time or the writing inclination to elaborate). He didn't believe that he would quit it for 6 months considering how much he loved the drug but he set his standard high. Since then SWIM has been 4 months sober, 2 months since he last felt an inkling of e-tardness and looking forward to the right time to take ecstasy again!


I'd recommend 5-HTP instead but I'm too poor and too lazy to buy it.Edited by: scrappy

[Alfa]

A 6 month recess is the least you should do. I would not moderate, but quit for a long time.

[DrugPhreak]

The problem is you are not taking enough pills.

[metalex86]

In the past when i used to be taking 10-15 pills a week i got a severe bout of depression, i thought my life was a total mess, so i took a 6 month break. I've been back on them for about a year and everything is sorted, so I recommend you take a few months off and hopefully that should sort it out!

[scrappy]

Good to hear metalex86. I'm in the same process

[Tony Blair]

on friday night, i did 4 pills round my m8's house, everything was normall, and i was loving it.





the next day at work, i consumed 3 all together, doing halfs through
the day, still, eveything was normall, ( except my pupils stayed small )





then, i went round to my m8's house that nite, took 6 pills, double
droped,

Z,



WHAT IS THE BEST THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?



Read what you wrote again, and ask yourself again. Really, what is the best thats going to happen?



Getting pilled up at work? What the fuck?



I know you know that when you get pilled up, it reduces your serotonin,
*rapidly*, and that doing it three times in two days is just insane
- how can you even hope for good results, especially being a
member of this forum, and obviously done a bit of reading.



I dunno how harsh to sound dude, but you need a kick up the arse.
As I've said before, and we've agreed, E is probably the best
drug. And that with moderate use, it can be the best drug for 10
years, not 10 months.



Go nuts with anti-oxidants and 5-htp, leave it for 6 months, decide why
you are doing it in the first place, then get back to some sort of
moderate use after that. For reference, a girl I used to go out
with did something similar to you, and ended up never coming up at all,
eating so much she vomited, etc, etc,.. A 2 year break didn't do
her any good, however after *FIVE*, the magic had returned.

[Tony Blair]

but i cants stop pills for more
then a week

why?

[billyloner]

Originally Posted by Megalev

Read what you wrote again, and ask yourself again. Really, what is the best thats going to happen?

Getting pilled up at work? What the fuck?

i agree, why take three pills while at work? they arent sweets you know...


to be honest i think you answered your own question when you asked what is up with you - you have taken an excessive amount of pills in a too-short space of time. your body may be able to hack it for a few months, but eventually it will catch up with you and you will feel like absolute shit. the only thing you can do is give up, for as long as you can manage, definately a few months but if you can manage 6 months then all the better.


its entirely up to you, you dont have to give up if you really dont think its worth it, but as youve experienced the down side to e you probably get some idea of what youll be like if you carry on. taking more pills wont make it any better...

[IvoryQueen]

I'm just backing what megalev and billyloner said, u really need to calm down a bit. If you carry on taking this much its goin to lead to serious psychological problems. You need to get yr priorities straight


sorry if we sound harsh

[Freemind]

What goes up must come down; therefore, make sure that you are in a good state, clear all your work and have nothing left to worry that you have to complete when you come down before rolling.


The only depressing thing about coming down is that the next day all your good friends will be gone and you miss their company, until next time. That's not too bad. If you want to roll when you are depressed, you will develop dependency to run away from reality.


SWIM has been rolling about every other week for the last 3-4 years, does not take any 5-hpt and only noticesslight tolerance. However, getting some 5-htp may worth a try.

[DrugPhreak]

Always take amino acids (e.g. Amino Fuel pills) after any binge to replenish these chemicals in your brain. The precursors of all neurochemicals (and natural occurring alkaloids) are amino acids. Also, drink a lot of Organic cranberry and lemonjuice to help clean out your kidneys and liver. Most of the propaganda about drug use is based on people that have poor hygiene and other bad habitats. They probably eat a poor diet andnever self-detox/clean out their system either.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />

[Freemind]

Good point, DrugPhreak. We should all keep chemicals in our bodies balancedafter we put them in excursionif we want to keep doing experiments for a long time. SWIM usually keeps his diet balanced.

[Tony Blair]

Originally Posted by DrugPhreak

Always
take amino acids (e.g. Amino Fuel pills) after any binge to replenish
these chemicals in your brain. The precursors of all neurochemicals
(and natural occurring alkaloids) are amino acids. Also, drink a lot of
Organic cranberry and lemonjuice to help clean out your kidneys
and liver. Most of the propaganda about drug use is based on people
that have poor hygiene and other bad habitats. They probably eat a poor
diet andnever self-detox/clean out their system either.</span>

Nail.

On.

Head.

[bigby]

By taking excessive quantities of xtc (13 in 24 hours is excessive) you reduce the effectiveness of the serotonin receptors in the brain. By taking the xtc you will still receive the rushes because you have a stimulant in your system. You will not get the loved up feel good effects because the chemical that gives this is depleated and the receptors that detect a need for it are faulty.If you want to enjoy your pills again have a month off. If the depression is too much doctors can help. hope this reply helps. peace love untity.