Drug info - acid in e??

[tylerwarkentine]

k so im pretty damn sure you cant put acid in e, its just not possible.
but my friends think thats its actually acid.
can anyone clarify this? cause like you couldnt dip the pill in acid, you could mix it in with it, how the hell would it be acid, i figured its just a research chem, but people just want to believe theyve done acid so they believe it.

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[chillinwill]

doubtful that it is acid but if they are experiencing hallucinations and such, might be MDA and even MDMA to an extent has minor hallucigenic properties to it

[Richard_smoker]

but, just to clarify, you could still have some acid in a tab.

this was done many years back--before the current day situation where no one knows what the hell is in any e's.

much more likely to be an RC than something actually illegal, hard to obtain, difficult to synth. -DICK

[chillinwill]

just thought of that it also could be ketamine or DXM

[Panthers007]

It could be sheer, useless speculation...

[Routemaster Flash]

SWIM once had some VERY trippy pills - the visuals were full on, like mushroom visuals (though different in character). They were very speedy too, so he thinks they were probably MDA, which can easily end up in pills being sold as ecstasy since, SWIM believes, MDA is the penultimate step in most or all common syntheses of MDMA.

It's not impossible that acid could ever end up in pills, but SWIM thinks it unlikely since it's a desirable drug in its own right. If SWIY ever did take an acid-tainted pill SWIM thinks he'd know about it, mainly because it just lasts so damn long.

And as someone's already mentioned, an inexperienced ecstasy user might assume they'd taken acid just from the MDMA visuals, if they were stronger than they'd had them before.

[Richard_smoker]

ha, yeah... most likely DXM. even for moderately 'experienced' DXM users, the purified, powderized tab form has been known to throw folks off guard.

Ketamine is unlikely, but it has been found in testing.

Way back in late 80's/early 90's, there was plenty of speculation that a lot of 'bunk' tabs were an LSD/speed combo. I say 'bunk' because most people were not quite expecting what they got...unless there was a hefty dose of the 'speed' and a rather light dose of trippiness.

haha. yeah, and complete and total, utter speculation is probably the most common situation here. One thing to consider is how frequently people will take 4-5 tablets in a short period of time. I don't recall any of that behavior in the 80's. -DICK

[pyroarchy]

SWIM remembers about 5 years ago alot of people using ecstasy would drip a droplet of liquid LSD on to the pill and then eat it, usually once its been dripped onto they would eat it quickly (instead of putting in pocket and chance ruining it). SWIM believes this is called "candyflipping". SWIM has seen ecstasy GC/MS data with Fentanyl, and Ketamine, MDA in them which could make a person hallucinate.

[tylerwarkentine]

hmm actaully yea it very well could be mdma, but i dont know, ive been thinking my ass off with what it could be. im a very forgetful person but doesnt lsd go bad if its exposed to just normal air...i dont kno i cant think of it, and how are caps pressed? i was thinking with heat and that heat could possibly destroy the lsd.
like im sure someone could just drip the lsd onto there cap but i cant see that being mass produced plus its very hard to even get liquid lsd.

[tryptamaster]

highly doubtful, if someone actually made a pill with cid in it im sure itd be advertised as so becasue its price wold be way higher. most likely dxm in swims opinion especially since it doesnt seem like ur freinds are very knowledagble bout cid hence they wudnt know the difference form dxm from lsd from and rc.

[MaquarieRevisonGuides]

Pills often contain 2-CB, a stronger hullucinogen than MDMA or MDA with much more pronouned acid style effects. Called "tripstacy" pills usually I beleive.

[Rhin]

SWIMS friend was talking to SWIM in art about how her sister bought some tabs and when she crushed them up there were blotters in each tab. She popped the papers as well as the tabs and said "Colors were coming out of everything" she said they were colors she couldn't explain.

[PeppersGhost]

Can E contain Mescalin, because I'm pretty sure SWIM has had that.

[pyroarchy]

Originally Posted by PeppersGhost

Can E contain Mescalin, because I'm pretty sure SWIM has had that.

What exactly makes SWIY believe this? It just seems very un-feasible for a E manufacturer to do this, when cheaper drugs can be substituted that resemble very similar effects when mixed with MDMA. Sorry if SWIM comes off as very scrupulous, but SWIM has heard it all when it comes to E, from "every red E pill has meth in it" to "yea these are triple stacks" yet SWIM eats 5 to get off....

[PeppersGhost]

The supplier/friend of SWIM told him this. It was a long time ago.

[Micklemouse]

Remember kittlings, "E" can contan absolutley anything, & frequently doesn't. By that I mean it is possible to dupe the average punter into believing anything about the random tablet he has just bought.

[Routemaster Flash]

It's worth also thinking about the economic aspect from the point of view of the guy pressing the pills. You might be tempted to adulterate a certain drug with other substances that are cheaper/more commonplace, but there's not really much incentive to adulterate it with something more expensive/rarer, is there?

Hence drugs likely to be used to adulterate 'ecstasy' include:

- DXM (legal, cheap-ish)
- caffeine (legal, dirt cheap)
- amphetamine (can be easily synthesised or diverted from legit medical supplies, i.e. Adderall/Dexedrine tablets)
- MDA, PMA or other related phens that could result from an incomplete or botched MDMA synthesis

But 2-CB? Well anything's possible I suppose, but if you had a supply of this stuff you wouldn't try and pass it off as a much more commonplace drug, would you?

[Micklemouse]

No, but you would try to sell it as what it is - a deliciously trippy combination pill (or so legend has it!). And this combination has been seen in the past, & may be again.

Not every "manufacturer" is out to rip people off or poison them, remember. Some will genuinely wish to produce genuinely special pills that people will remember for a long time to come, whether by providing a large dose of clean MDMA or a combination carefully worked out for a certain occasion or "time".

Some of these "brands" become adulterated later (e.g. "Doves", "Mitsubishi" ), some do not, but this is how brands appear.

[Routemaster Flash]

Ahh, I getcha - I was under the impression we were talking more about pills being sold as common-or-garden ecstasy when they are in fact laced with 2C-B, acid or whatever. Yeah, it makes sense that if someone with a pill press gets hold of something 'exotic' he might well make pills that contain something extra and then flog them with this as the selling point - but simply putting out 'weird' pills with no warning as to what's in them is likely to backfire, since someone taking what they think is just MDMA but is actually full of acid too is probably going to have a pretty rotten time. An old clubbing friend of SWIM's must have had this happen to him once, since whenever offered a pill he'd *always* ask "There's no acid in it, is there?" - I mean, he was properly phobic of it. SWIM even handed him a spliff once and he said "Is there any acid in it?" - I mean, who ever heard of putting acid in a spliff?!