Drug info - methedrone vs mephedrone

[Synesthesiac]

SWIM was with a mate the other day in the UK that said he had a new research chemical called methedrome. I asked if he was sure it wasn't mephedrone, but he was adament about the th. Apparently its brand new. I didn't try it, but the people on it said it was really good, they said it was like the buzz you get off coke but lasted for about six hours or more. They all felt really rough the next day though, and a couple of them complained about chest pains. It was a white powder, and they were sniffing it. Anyone heard of this? or has he likely just misheard the name?

I know that sometimes you can pretty much work out what a substance is made of by the name its given, so was curious if any chemicals you can think of when combined would use this spelling.

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Excellent starter topic about this litle known substance.

[Abrad]

I think you mean mephedrone, which is indeed a powerful and very euphoric stimulant.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by Abrad

I think you mean mephedrone, which is indeed a powerful and very euphoric stimulant.

Are the effects of mephedrone similar to what I described above? They all said the same.

He was very adament about the m. He did spell that part of the word. But then again, he was on the stuff at the time.

[Abrad]

Are the effects of mephedrone similar to what I described above?

Yes, certainly.

[KomodoMK]

I would place my bets on Mephedrone (4-Methylmethcathinone). My little fishy wouldn't say it was very coke like but it certainly is nice and euphoric, the typical duration of effects from a single dose is around an hour in his experience.

It isn't exactly a new research chemical but it appears to be picking up in the UK now.

[insom]

LMFAO....not a champs member by any chance?
A mephedrome thread was started by mistake, quickly changed.

[Cuberun]

swim has heard a friend say methadrome too.. he was talking about that "methadrome" swim had told him about.. swim had told him about methylone and mephedrone.. somehow he turned it into methadrome lol.

[Synesthesiac]

Yeah this thread can be deleted now, or locked, or whatever. swim spoke to this guy and asked him to spell it again, and this time he spelt it: methedrone. with an n. But he's still a crap speller, as he's using "th" instead of "ph" too.

Some people. You would think a person would know how to spell his own product.

[jampecey]

He might in fact be getting the spelling correct.

There is a substance called methedrone, that is more coke like than mephedrone.

It is methoxy methcathinone ( methedrone ) NOT methyl methcathinone ( mephedrone )

[KomodoMK]

Isn't that Methylenedioxymethcathinone? Which is actually Methylone?

[jampecey]

NOPE.

Methedrone = bk-PMeoMA, 4 meo methcathinone, 530-54-1
Mephedrone = bk-PMethylMA, 4 methyl methcathinone

Methylone = bk-MDMA, 3,4 methylenedioxy methcathinone


Methedrone is the beta ketone of PMMA
Mephedrone is the beta ketone of
Methylone is the beta ketone of MDMA

To make it easier, another name for Methedrone ( NOT MEPHEDRONE ) is Methoxyphedrine

Methedrone was developed before Mephedrone but has only recently been used as an RC ( Past 6 months ), where as Mephedrone has been used for past 2 years. Methedrone has a cas whereas Mephedrone does not.

Methedrone was meantioned in a science paper many years ago, but under the name Methedron rather than Methedrone. Many speculate that Mephedrone was named after Methedrone.

There isn't a hell of a lot of human reports to go on, but initial reports surgest that Methedrone is very similar to Mephedrone but with more dopamine activity and therefore more coke like. This would also account for the greater comedown. Overal methedrone is speculated to be the stronger of the two.

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	thanks, I'll check it out
	Thank you, took the words right outta my mouth, PLUS great detailed nomenclature!
	Wise clarification of nomenclature.

[KomodoMK]

Mepherdone is the beta ketone of MMA?

Not come across Methedrone before, so will have to do some research. Thanks for your post!

[jampecey]

Mepherdone is the beta ketone of MMA?

Yep, sorry I forgot to type in what mephedrone is the beta ketone of, and could not figure out how to edit previous post on drug-zone, it is a forum I rarely use.

Technically mephedrone can be abreviated to the beta ketone of PMMA, however PMethylMA not PMeoMA, as both compounds are "bonded" at the para ( 4th ) position on the structure; however for the reason that PMMA is already known as PMeoMA, MMA is known as MMA and not PMMA.

So yes, Mephedrone IS bk MMA, and Methedrone is bk PMMA

Sorry, I am hopeless at explaining things.

[KomodoMK]

Cool, you post is appreciated! Whilst my knowledge of chemistry doesn't extend as far as yours you have still cleared something up for this little fishy.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by jampecey

Sorry, I am hopeless at explaining things.

Not at all, that post above was very informative. Maybe what this guy was selling wasn't actually mephedrone afterall. Swim will definately double check with him if he sees him. Anyone know of anyway swim could test the substance in question to see if it is mephedrone or infact something different? Marquis reagent or something? swims not really a chemistry buff, he's still learning.

[jampecey]

TBH im not quite sure what kind of responce a marquis reagent would produce.

Methedrone is very rare and has likely never been tested using any form of spot test. It is unlikely that it would produce a false positive for most common drug test, as most cathinones don't.

The two compounds differ in smell and appearance slightly.

It is very light and fluffy with a texture that could be compared to flour. It has a strong smell similar to the medical cream 'Germolene - methedrone wiki

[Synesthesiac]

It is very light and fluffy with a texture that could be compared to flour. It has a strong smell similar to the medical cream 'Germolene'.

Now this is interesting. Swim first brought what he thought was mephedrone from the dude talked about in this thread, and this stuff had the exact texture in the above description. It was lumpy stuff, very hard to make into fine powder and stuck to the baggy. Which in a way was handy, as when swim ran out he was able to scrape out another few lines from all the material that was stuck inside the bag, which was quite a considerable amount. swim has also sinse ordered mephedrone online from a vendor in the EU and this powder was finer and more 'powdery' than the first stuff. It said it was 99% pure mephedrone 'Not for human consumption', etc. The mephedrone ordered online was what caused an associate of swims to have to go to hospital after binging on it too much (heres the thread about that), whereas the original more lumpy/floury stuff did not seem to cause any issues when he used it to excess. So maybe the original stuff was actually Methedrone/Methoxyphedrine. They both smelt quite similar, though the first stuff probably smelt stronger.

Christ. All these names are gving me a headache I'm gonna need to do some researching over the coming weeks. If swim see's the said persons again he'll be asking more questions.

[eddistarey]

methadrome is a new drug, is amazing 2 say the least, iv had a bit every weekend for a few weeks now and if the pubs and clubs are not very good then a line of methadrome soon sorts it out, first your hearing goes fuzzy as you start to come up and then you have a full body buzz for a hour or so and then you are still happy but not buzzing, but another line sorts things out. there are rumors that a few people in australia have OD on it, too much would be over a gram, small amounts are all you need. i dont tend to sleep much when i have it but i just party through the night and forget i dont sleep but i have friends who wanted to sleep on it and fell asleep stright away, the only drug that comes near to the buzzz would be pure MDMA but with Methadrome your more with it and having a good time, if you get offerd it, have it because u will not regret it at all. peace

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also, methadrome looks very futureistic and is veery white and sparkly, looks like thousands of tiny cristals

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Dont self incriminate

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by eddistarey

methadrome is a new drug, is amazing 2 say the least, iv had a bit every weekend for a few weeks now and if the pubs and clubs are not very good then a line of methadrome soon sorts it out, first your hearing goes fuzzy as you start to come up and then you have a full body buzz for a hour or so and then you are still happy but not buzzing, but another line sorts things out. there are rumors that a few people in australia have OD on it, too much would be over a gram, small amounts are all you need. i dont tend to sleep much when i have it but i just party through the night and forget i dont sleep but i have friends who wanted to sleep on it and fell asleep stright away, the only drug that comes near to the buzzz would be pure MDMA but with Methadrome your more with it and having a good time, if you get offerd it, have it because u will not regret it at all. peace

eddistarey added 1 Minutes and 14 Seconds later...

also, methadrome looks very futureistic and is veery white and sparkly, looks like thousands of tiny cristals

Please read the rules before you end up with one of these

Seriously, that post is full of incriminating language and poorly constructed sentences.

I would also suggest you read this entire thread you posted in and you may figure out the substance SWIY ingested isn't really "methadrome" but rather "mephedrone" which is sweeping the UK and Europe right now as a new popular recreational substance reputed to be a cross between MDMA and coke.

[lize]

I have in fact researched this methadrome and nothing has come of it yet, although a lot of my friends have been in possesion of it recently! i have researched methadrone and methadone and neither of these drugs match the appearance or effects of methadrome?

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by lize

I have in fact researched this methadrome and nothing has come of it yet, although a lot of my friends have been in possesion of it recently! i have researched methadrone and methadone and neither of these drugs match the appearance or effects of methadrome?

What about Mephedrone or 4-Methylmethcathinone