Drug info - methedrone vs mephedrone

[Synesthesiac]

SWIM was with a mate the other day in the UK that said he had a new research chemical called methedrome. I asked if he was sure it wasn't mephedrone, but he was adament about the th. Apparently its brand new. I didn't try it, but the people on it said it was really good, they said it was like the buzz you get off coke but lasted for about six hours or more. They all felt really rough the next day though, and a couple of them complained about chest pains. It was a white powder, and they were sniffing it. Anyone heard of this? or has he likely just misheard the name?

I know that sometimes you can pretty much work out what a substance is made of by the name its given, so was curious if any chemicals you can think of when combined would use this spelling.

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Excellent starter topic about this litle known substance.

[Abrad]

I think you mean mephedrone, which is indeed a powerful and very euphoric stimulant.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by Abrad

I think you mean mephedrone, which is indeed a powerful and very euphoric stimulant.

Are the effects of mephedrone similar to what I described above? They all said the same.

He was very adament about the m. He did spell that part of the word. But then again, he was on the stuff at the time.

[Abrad]

Are the effects of mephedrone similar to what I described above?

Yes, certainly.

[KomodoMK]

I would place my bets on Mephedrone (4-Methylmethcathinone). My little fishy wouldn't say it was very coke like but it certainly is nice and euphoric, the typical duration of effects from a single dose is around an hour in his experience.

It isn't exactly a new research chemical but it appears to be picking up in the UK now.

[insom]

LMFAO....not a champs member by any chance?
A mephedrome thread was started by mistake, quickly changed.

[Cuberun]

swim has heard a friend say methadrome too.. he was talking about that "methadrome" swim had told him about.. swim had told him about methylone and mephedrone.. somehow he turned it into methadrome lol.

[Synesthesiac]

Yeah this thread can be deleted now, or locked, or whatever. swim spoke to this guy and asked him to spell it again, and this time he spelt it: methedrone. with an n. But he's still a crap speller, as he's using "th" instead of "ph" too.

Some people. You would think a person would know how to spell his own product.

[jampecey]

He might in fact be getting the spelling correct.

There is a substance called methedrone, that is more coke like than mephedrone.

It is methoxy methcathinone ( methedrone ) NOT methyl methcathinone ( mephedrone )

[KomodoMK]

Isn't that Methylenedioxymethcathinone? Which is actually Methylone?

[jampecey]

NOPE.

Methedrone = bk-PMeoMA, 4 meo methcathinone, 530-54-1
Mephedrone = bk-PMethylMA, 4 methyl methcathinone

Methylone = bk-MDMA, 3,4 methylenedioxy methcathinone


Methedrone is the beta ketone of PMMA
Mephedrone is the beta ketone of
Methylone is the beta ketone of MDMA

To make it easier, another name for Methedrone ( NOT MEPHEDRONE ) is Methoxyphedrine

Methedrone was developed before Mephedrone but has only recently been used as an RC ( Past 6 months ), where as Mephedrone has been used for past 2 years. Methedrone has a cas whereas Mephedrone does not.

Methedrone was meantioned in a science paper many years ago, but under the name Methedron rather than Methedrone. Many speculate that Mephedrone was named after Methedrone.

There isn't a hell of a lot of human reports to go on, but initial reports surgest that Methedrone is very similar to Mephedrone but with more dopamine activity and therefore more coke like. This would also account for the greater comedown. Overal methedrone is speculated to be the stronger of the two.

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	thanks, I'll check it out
	Thank you, took the words right outta my mouth, PLUS great detailed nomenclature!
	Wise clarification of nomenclature.

[KomodoMK]

Mepherdone is the beta ketone of MMA?

Not come across Methedrone before, so will have to do some research. Thanks for your post!

[jampecey]

Mepherdone is the beta ketone of MMA?

Yep, sorry I forgot to type in what mephedrone is the beta ketone of, and could not figure out how to edit previous post on drug-zone, it is a forum I rarely use.

Technically mephedrone can be abreviated to the beta ketone of PMMA, however PMethylMA not PMeoMA, as both compounds are "bonded" at the para ( 4th ) position on the structure; however for the reason that PMMA is already known as PMeoMA, MMA is known as MMA and not PMMA.

So yes, Mephedrone IS bk MMA, and Methedrone is bk PMMA

Sorry, I am hopeless at explaining things.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by jampecey

Sorry, I am hopeless at explaining things.

Not at all, that post above was very informative. Maybe what this guy was selling wasn't actually mephedrone afterall. Swim will definately double check with him if he sees him. Anyone know of anyway swim could test the substance in question to see if it is mephedrone or infact something different? Marquis reagent or something? swims not really a chemistry buff, he's still learning.

[jampecey]

TBH im not quite sure what kind of responce a marquis reagent would produce.

Methedrone is very rare and has likely never been tested using any form of spot test. It is unlikely that it would produce a false positive for most common drug test, as most cathinones don't.

The two compounds differ in smell and appearance slightly.

It is very light and fluffy with a texture that could be compared to flour. It has a strong smell similar to the medical cream 'Germolene - methedrone wiki

[Synesthesiac]

It is very light and fluffy with a texture that could be compared to flour. It has a strong smell similar to the medical cream 'Germolene'.

Now this is interesting. Swim first brought what he thought was mephedrone from the dude talked about in this thread, and this stuff had the exact texture in the above description. It was lumpy stuff, very hard to make into fine powder and stuck to the baggy. Which in a way was handy, as when swim ran out he was able to scrape out another few lines from all the material that was stuck inside the bag, which was quite a considerable amount. swim has also sinse ordered mephedrone online from a vendor in the EU and this powder was finer and more 'powdery' than the first stuff. It said it was 99% pure mephedrone 'Not for human consumption', etc. The mephedrone ordered online was what caused an associate of swims to have to go to hospital after binging on it too much (heres the thread about that), whereas the original more lumpy/floury stuff did not seem to cause any issues when he used it to excess. So maybe the original stuff was actually Methedrone/Methoxyphedrine. They both smelt quite similar, though the first stuff probably smelt stronger.

Christ. All these names are gving me a headache I'm gonna need to do some researching over the coming weeks. If swim see's the said persons again he'll be asking more questions.

[KomodoMK]

Cool, you post is appreciated! Whilst my knowledge of chemistry doesn't extend as far as yours you have still cleared something up for this little fishy.