How to roll the hands down epic joint. - Drugs Forum
Drugs-Forum  
News Groups Blog Forum Chat Video Audio Images Documents Wiki Home
Go Back   Drugs Forum > VARIOUS DRUGS > Cannabis > Cannabis using
Register Tags Mark Forums Read

Notices

Cannabis using Smoking Marijuana and Hashish, health effects, medical marijuana, cooking with cannabis

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 26-03-2005, 10:51
Qish Qish is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 04-01-2005
Age: 54
Posts: 91
Qish is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%




This is the epic* joint, every possible aspect has been considered and mastered for an epic smoking experience.



Before you do this, you must have an understanding of the inside out
joint, so if you dont know how to roll an inside out joint stop right
here and google "inside out joint"



Once you understand the workings of the inside out joint we can continue.



What i am about to share with you, is the skill to make a joint that
which will shock everyone in the room, people will be in awe and will
ask if yuo accept students. in most cases an epic joint will be passed
around several times in a group just so each person can look in
amazement at the literal Godlike ability one must have to create such a
perfect masterpiece.



Some people dont think this stuff matters, but it does, the way that a
joint is rolled plays a major roll in how smooth it will be. infact
once you can implement these skills, you will be able to roll tobaco so
smooth that non-smokers wont even cough when taking a hit off of it.



I kid you not.



Now, onto the instructions.



first you will need a few things:

1. pack of rizlas in the silver pack.

2. pencil

3. a ramrod with a slightly smaller circumfrence than the pencil.

4. tray

5. scissors



first, take your scissors and cut a long strip of cardboard off of your
pack of rizlas, roll it up. The idea behind this is to make it the
exact circumfrence of the pencil. This however will NOT be used as a
filter, as some folks tend to do, which i do not recomend because the
hot smoke can create fumes which will alter the tase, Plus i will
instruct you on how to create a good paper mouth piece later.



now this is were we detor from the normal inside out joint. take you
paper and wrap it around the pencil inside out style, wrap the paper
around the pencil and lick where you think the sticky side is, causing
it to soak through and stick to the sticky side.



after you lick, use the area of skin between your bottom lip and chin,
sliding across the paper enwrapped pencil to dry it completely.



now you should have a paper tube with a pencil in it, with a "flag"
hanging off to the side, take your lighter and light the flag on fire
so that it burns away down to the seal. you might need to drag your
flame around the seal for a few seconds lightly as if you where baking
a joint to burn it all away.



now you should have a perfect paper tube around your pencil, take your cardboard filter and slide the tube onto the filter.



now you should have what appears to be a cigarette with nothing in it.



now holding the joint by the cardboard end, shovel little bits of weed
into it, i find that tilting the trey so that gravity pulls it down
ward and poking at it with my finger is the best way to send weed down
the tube. also tap it against a hard surface to make the weed settle
into it, and use your ram rod to push it down. feel free to pound in a
ton of weed, you can put an incredible amount of weed into it by
packing it hard which will make the joint last a very very long time.



its also required to grind your weed pretty finely, if you dont have a
weed grinder just you need to go to the head shop instantly for 2
reasons.

1. You will never be able to grind it fine enough by hand.

2. By grinding it by hand the weed absorbs the oils from your skin which alters the taste.



now once you have the paper tube filled with weed, twist off the end so that it acts as a wick.



now i use tweezers, or a needle, but it is physically possible to do it
with your fingers, pull the cardboard filter out of the other end, and
what you want to do is fold it flat, then twist it and fold it flat
again, do this a few times and it should look as if it is a piece of
candy.



your joint should look remotely like this



______

__l&am p;nb sp; \/\</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
l_______/\/</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">


now for the mouth piece ( the end that looks like a candy wrapper) wet
your lips ever so slightly, and bite the very end of the flaps off with
your teeth, this will make the rizla paper pretty firm and twisted off
into a perfect mouth piece.



it should now look like this



______


__l \</span><br style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">

l_______/



now to
light the joint, you burn the very tip of the wick at the end, and then
hold it upside down, it should take about 15 seconds after the flame
has hit the joint, for the weed to actually start burning, hold it
upside down the entire time.</span><br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the
point behind this is so that the butane fire never touches your weed,
this may sound trivial but it isnt, and when the wick its self lights
the joint it will be lit perfectly evenly. so this is a very important
step.</span><br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
now you should have a joint that looks (and is) better than any joint rolled by a machine or by any other method.</span><br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;">
the
advantages to this is that minimal paper is used as all extra paper is
burned away, but the very coolest part about this is that you can wrap
your paper around anything to make a paper tube of any size, i once
sealed 2 papers together and wrapped them around a tube that was
thicker than a quarter and i was able to put about an ounce of weed
into one joint, which is fucking graet for parties, although i you aer
giong to do something as asininely ridiculous as that its best to use a
sturdier paper than the silver pack rizlas. </span>

</span>

i imagine in the future, when weed is legal, and my backyard is
infested with it, i will wrap papers around a base ball bat and make
joints the size of baseball bats, with maybe a pound of weed in each
one.



the other side to this of course, is that you can make your tube around
something thin, i can make a perfectly functional joint the
circumfrence of a match stick.



Now one other tip, the hardest part people run into (and this is what
causes people to give up on joints) is that they do not understand the
atitude that is required to "tuck" the sticky side under the paper.



now this is important to know when rolling it around the pencil, but
even more important to know if you are going to make a ghetto american
style joint with your thumbs and pointer fingers.



the secret to tucking the paper under, is to just roll it all in one
swift movement, most people have never tried this, because they lack
the confidence to just roll it. they will try to wedge little bits in
under and tuck them in little bits at a time, or tuck it in at one end
and then roll it under, all bad ideas, you just have to take it and
roll it in one movement, most people never try this assuming it will
just fold backward, but it doesnt.



practice rolling with a pencil or tube instead of weed to really get a hang of it.



Also there is much debate over stuffing vs rolling.





rolling being like how a machine makes it, stuffing being, using a ramrod to shove it down.





I believe in stuffing personlly, because it gives you much more choice
as to how long you want the joint to last, you can pack it very lightly
if you want, or very compounded where as you are much more limited with
rolling to the amount in that which you can hold in your hands/machine
without spilling.










*Epic, being the at the end of the greatness spectrum, which goes in this order.

Neat, Cool/Good**, Great, Mega, Super, Ultra, Epic, Ultimate.***


**Recent studies show that cool is the equivalent to good, anyone that tells you otherwise is mistaken.



***Ultimate is an infinite state, in that which it can never be
achieved, it is the state that which is better than what can be done,
Epic represents the best of something possible in our realm of
understanding. where as something ultimate, would have no room for
improvement.




Edited by: Qish
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26-03-2005, 10:56
Qish Qish is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 04-01-2005
Age: 54
Posts: 91
Qish is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Well the html kinda fucked up on the text diagram, so just imagine that "&nb sp;" isnt there.</span>
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26-03-2005, 11:06
Qish Qish is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 04-01-2005
Age: 54
Posts: 91
Qish is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
i made this image to explain the act of burning the flag.



purple=pencil

red=paper

yellow=fire







once the fire touches the flag, it will burn away, leaving you with just the tube surrounding the pencil.


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-04-2005, 20:44
Creeping Death's Avatar
Creeping Death Iridium member Creeping Death is offline
Iridium Member
 
Join Date: 29-06-2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 756
Creeping Death is a captain of the SWIM team.Creeping Death is a captain of the SWIM team.Creeping Death is a captain of the SWIM team.
Points: 2,649, Level: 7 Points: 2,649, Level: 7 Points: 2,649, Level: 7
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
I tried this with a king size rizla, but i wrapped it around the pen the wrong way and didn't get a "flag", on top of that, i got way more paper than is needed in a joint. It still looked good, but i'll give this epic one a try later on.

The thing is, when you roll it with a pen it doesn't have a joint shape. It's a straight cylinder, and its not very old-school.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-04-2005, 00:02
Sky Walker's Avatar
Sky Walker Gold member Sky Walker is offline
Sky Walker is 'in the world, but not of it'
Head's in the clouds.
Donating Gold Member
 
Join Date: 05-04-2005
Location: Everywhere. Consciousness is transcendent of locality.
Age: 22
Posts: 587
Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.Sky Walker really adds to the discussion.
Points: 2,471, Level: 7 Points: 2,471, Level: 7 Points: 2,471, Level: 7
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%


This is quite possibly the worst method ever,for rolling impressivejoints. First, it can not be classed as "rolling" a joint,it is mearly "packing" skins to form a joint. Second, the skill and ability needed to drop weed into a tube isn't reallythat impresive so i doubt it will shock or amaze anyone,in any room,ever. However, there is still hope for you. When you can master the ability to roll freehand without a pencil your joints will be much better and you will possess the true, "Godlike ability" one must achieveto leavean audience in awe and tobeginaccepting students.


Practice makes perfect!





Edited by: Lukey
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-04-2005, 03:30
Qish Qish is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 04-01-2005
Age: 54
Posts: 91
Qish is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2 Points: 328, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
thats nuts dude, the skill isnt in overcoming a flawed practice, its creating a method that which ANYONE can use.



it uses the least amount of paper, easy to do, looks good (and i think a cylinder is best, less suspicious)



plus when you pack a cylinder you have the option of packing it lightly
for a fast smoke, hard hitting joint, or real packed for a longer
burning joint.



its the best of all worlds and you can make ridiculously big joints (thats what woo's the crowds)



PLUS when you roll it by hand, the oils and salt off your skin soak into the paper which is no good.


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-04-2005, 07:43
coppafeel coppafeel is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 23-02-2005
Posts: 62
coppafeel is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Packing is for pussies who cant roll. Rolling is an art, not a science. Creativity in form is important.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-04-2005, 09:30
P!MPJU!C3 P!MPJU!C3 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 13-07-2004
Location: Netherlands
Age: 21
Posts: 361
P!MPJU!C3 is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 572, Level: 3 Points: 572, Level: 3 Points: 572, Level: 3
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Americans cant roll good joints . A joint ,as u said, should be rolled inside out, thin and tall. Thats the way I do it. Or very thin at the bottom and and somewhat fatter at the top with a "TIP" (paper mouth piece,its round with a M in the middle.) Plus the fact that stuffing takes to fucking long. Rolling a joint takes like 2 minutes. Its seems that ur project qish, takes 2 hours!

P!MPJU!C3
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 17-04-2005, 14:28
coppafeel coppafeel is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 23-02-2005
Posts: 62
coppafeel is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
thats so pussy...im sure they can be big and what not but come on, if yer gonna roll a spliff roll one, ya know? its an art not a science
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 19-04-2005, 21:31
William_Again's Avatar
William_Again Gold member William_Again is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: 27-01-2005
Location: United States
Posts: 458
William_Again is a decent SWIMmer.
Points: 1,752, Level: 6 Points: 1,752, Level: 6 Points: 1,752, Level: 6
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
People will scoff at this, but to make a perfect joint everytime use a
joint roller, they are so worth it and it literally only takes 10
seconds (from the time you grab your bag to the time you lick the
paper) to make the perfect even joint.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 21-04-2005, 02:35
damania damania is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 20-04-2005
Posts: 29
damania is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 15, Level: 1 Points: 15, Level: 1 Points: 15, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%


Quote:
Originally Posted by P!MPJU!C3
A joint ,as u said, should be rolled inside out, thin and tall. Thats the way I do it.


P!MPJU!C3

That's exactly how it's done. I always hate it when people roll short fat joints aka cannons. I'm a fan of the long thin one's myself too
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 21-04-2005, 20:07
coppafeel coppafeel is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 23-02-2005
Posts: 62
coppafeel is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
joints as well as blunts should have shape to them...i like to make
mine smallest on the end you puff on, then getting fatter as they reach
the middle and then tapering off a bit to be small on the other
end...long and thin isnt always that great, but definitely better than
a wide open fatty. joints should smoke smoothly, not blow your
head off. thats what blunts are for
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 25-04-2005, 06:14
joetaco joetaco is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 15-01-2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 49
joetaco should urgently read the rules.
Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1 Points: 25, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Mmmm... blunts.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 26-04-2005, 17:44
Undergradu8 Undergradu8 is offline
Newbie
 
Join Date: 19-04-2005
Posts: 16
Undergradu8 is an unknown quantity at this point
Points: 24, Level: 1 Points: 24, Level: 1 Points: 24, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%


Spliff should be rolled with two king size papers, stuck in a shallow V shape.


inside outs are just for showing off at parties
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Sitelinks: Site Functions:

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:38.


Copyright: Substance Information Network 2003 - 2009, All rights reserved