Injecting - the 'needle', should we accept it?

[frankz81]

i didnt really know where to post this, but it is mainly in regard to iv ing opiates...

now, alot of ppl have a hard time getting off and have intent to and all that. we also know that using a needle is probably part of the addiction.
my question is, should we just accept that we function better in our life when he have a needle filled with a DOC?? rather than always try n get better n relapse and use again, should we just say, ok , were gonna use no matter what, we will accept that, so maybe set aside parts of each month for using to keep us happy rather than lure ourselves into a false sense of security?

wat do u guys think? is any1 on the same wave length as me?

[Herbal Healer 019]

SWIM has never IVed anything but thinks using a needle to inject a DOC in moderation is obviously much better than doing so on a daily basis...SWIM thinks that with most opiates that are IVed this is not possible due to the high addictiveness of these substances unless SWIY has extreme self discipline/control and someone who is already addicted to these substances is going to have a really hard time IVing their DOC in moderation considering the fact that in order to become an addict they had to have been daily users...SWIM thinks its better to just avoid the needle

[chillinwill]

IV'ing one's drug of choice in moderation is an extremely hard thing to do and there are some ppl that can; however, if everyone could do it, there would be no IV addicts then.....SWIM was an IV heroin user and he thought he could handle it by doing it once a week only on the weekends, etc, and it slowly but surely took off to everyday.....great thought and idea, but i doubt it would really work

on the idea of just accepting the fact that one is going to relapse no matter what so they might as well use in moderation with the needle and their drug of choice, i personally believe that is a BS....there are plenty of ppl that have relapsed but then get many many years of recovery....For SWIM, it wasn't really hard to get clean, but it was to stay clean and it can be done and by just accepting the fact that one is going to relapse no matter what, if their objective is to stay clean and sober off their drug of choice, then they are just setting themselves up for failure

These are just my ideas on these topics....I really wish they could work and in fact they might for some people, but I know at least for SWIM, they wouldn't work

[frankz81]

good idea to stay away, if only we knew before we started... in saying that, alot of ppl regret starting the needle, but i sorta dont as the euphoria and ability to escape reality is unlike anything else... i couldnt really imagine going without these days and am actually thankful for it!
puts on flame suit!

[fiveleggedrat]

Haha, good one, flame suit!

Oh man, a laugh is great. Anyway, Swim avoids the needle because he can enjoy his drug usage just fine without it. He decided to add a needle into the mix would only add more issues, and create a bigger battle with tolerance and addiction.

Needles are not required for drug usage, I believe. Many can use drugs their entire lives without a needle. If someone can control themselves and still use a needle with no problems, I give them RESPECT.

[frankz81]

well swim just accepts he is addcited to the needle and DOC, so he keeps it under control and uses for a week per month. that way he doesnt think bout it 24/7 and does maintain a normal life.
swim was very addicted and dependant, swim is not dependant anymore but just likes to use for that week. he just accepts he will always prob do it, so rather than try the sober thing for a while then a full blown relapse, he just uses in moderation and it CAN be done!

[Figaro]

I do not have much problems with moderation, what I have problem with is having too much infront of me. Or Quiting altogether. That really a hard one.

[Herbal Remedy]

swim used the needle and is taking a break from it. Now he just sniffs dope and chews a benzo every once in a while to get back to bein sober. Swim scared himself with his frequency of use, but did find that the needle got the most out of his dope. Swim learned that with needles, dope and getting high, rules have to be set and followed.

[cuddlesthefox]

One thing swim would like to add is it is very hard to go back other ways of intake once you have IV'd anything. That's just from swims personal experience. The longer you resist the better probably.