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Peele's Lepiota
I have heard vague, passing, and conflicting reports on this mushroom; said to have some mysterious non-psilocybin yet psychoactive compound. I am curious to know what others have heard of this species and, more importantly, of any llamas or monkeys with direct experience with the little critters effects or knowledge of the active compound.
Below is a statement by Mr Peele concerning his discovery of the mushroom.
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Taken from _The Mushroom Culture_(c) 1993, Issue #21, July 1993.
Available from FMRC.
PEELE'S LEPIOTA STORY AS TOLD BY S.L PEELE HIMSELF
...for all the "expert" know it alls
During the late 1970's I was devoting a lot of time collecting
different mushroom samples from pasture areas. Cow pastures to be exact.
I was collecting from Hernando, MS to Pensacola, FL. It was in the Florida area
I first noticed the white mushroom. I was intrigued by the dark and bright red
bruising. It also had white spores and not dark ones like most of the other
mushrooms I had been collecting. I first only noticed them in cow pastures, then
in gardens where cow manure had been used for fertilizer. There seemed to be a
connection with animal dung, but I had never seen the mushroom growing directly
from any dung.
Every once in a while I would run into other mushroom collectors.
Some of the psychoactive hunters talked about eating this white mushroom
and reported that it had a psychoactive effect. I was told that it was
different from what was produced by Ps. cubensis. I was now more intrigued
than ever by this mushroom.
I never saw one of these mushroom hunters eat one of the white
mushrooms, so I was somewhat skeptical. I continued trying to locate
some information on the mushroom using the library at West Florida
University....no luck. I did however believe that it was a mushroom in
the genus Lepiota. I was also aware that Lepiota had some species that
were rather toxic. I collected several of the mushrooms one afternoon
and ate a small portion to see if there was any toxic effect. The flesh
that I ate from the cap hardly had any taste. It was only slightly earthy
tasting. Three days went by with no sign of any effects. On this third
day I collected several more of the white mushrooms. I ate three average
sized mushrooms. I again noted that they really had no taste, only a little
earthy taste. Ps. cubensis has a strong and somewhat unpleasant taste to
me. Using this for a crude standard, I though that nothing was going to
happen from such a tasteless mushroom, and I remember feeling silly about
even believing the "magic" story. My wife and I then went to the University
again to do some reference gathering.
It had been close to an hour since eating the white mushrooms when I
suddenly felt myself "changed". I was having difficulties in reading. The
letters would not clear up so that I could read the print. Black waving
lines then appeared and reading was impossible. I told my wife that
something was happening to me. I did not feel intoxicated, only a slight
lightness was noticed. My eyes however were hard to focus. I remember
seeing large, floating, balls of color, and the black waving lines. I had
my wife drive us back to our room.
I was not aware of any Lepiota mushrooms that produced psychoactive
effects. Because I could not find anything on this mushroom, I published a
ms. on this mushroom to alert other mycologists. I sent out a few to other
people with mushroom interests. One of these people was Paul Stamets. He
show the ms. to Jeremy Bigwood at The Evergreen State Collfege. I received
the following letter from Jeremy.
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Ethnopharmacology,
Lab 1., Room 3052,
The Evergreen State
College, Olympia, WA
90210
Mr. Stephen L. Peele,
Florida Mycology Research Centre,
P.O. Box 0000,
Pensacola, Flordia, 11111.
Dear Mr. Peele,
Paul Stamets showed me your ms. on _Lepiota peele_ peele.
Needless to say everyone is quite intrigued by a new
'hallucinogenic' mushroom species. We, at the Evergreen State
College are especially interested and have been, for the last
four years involved in chemical research with both psilocybin
and isoxazolian species. Perhaps the Lepiota that bears your
name is a new species containing a yet unknown drug.
Our team would be greatly interested in collaborating
with you on a scientific paper concerning taxonomic and chemical
aspects of this novel mushroom. I am sure you are aware of our
contributions to this field, and in March, the _Journal of
Ethnopharmacology_ will contain two papers of interest to you.
For analysis, we would need no more than three specimens
(dried) of this species. Each should weigh over a gram.**
No doubt you have been approached by other chemists working
with mushrooms. To decide with whom to work - merely look at their
papers in print. If you do ont wish to work with our team - that is
fine, but I must recommend that you find a good chemist to identify
the active compound(s).
Sincerely,
Jeremy Bigwood
February 4th, 1982
** It may take more if the drug is an 'unknown'.
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I took Jeremy up on his offer. The only thing that I asked of him
was that any new compounds would not be named. I wanted all areas of
research done without having the government make anything illegal. I felt
that if a psychoactive compound was found and then named, all the government
had to do was to say "whatever compound name" was illegal to have. Jeremy
agreed and we started exchanging information and specimens to be tested. I
then concentrated a large amount of time on this mushroom. The more I
studied the mushroom in the wild, the more questions I had.
During this particular collecting season, which by the way is during
the two hottest months in the summer, July and August, there were several
weeks that went by when afternoon rains come every day. The mycelium came
up from the ground and started feeding on a pasture grass which I later
found out was "Bermuda Grass". The mycelium built a "covering" over areas
30 by 50 feet, feeding on the grass. I remember seeing this "Mat Condition"
when I picked the mushrooms I ate the day I went to the University. I could
not remember seeing the Mat Condition on the day I ate the small sample. I
thought that this Mat Condition was very important because it allowed the
mushroom's mycelium to feed on a substrate that was not normal. It had the
broader analysis of nutrients. I later concluded that this is exactly what
is going on. The mycelium mat was also very tough. It was not fragile or
delicate like you think it would be. It took a firm grip to hold on to it
and it would hold on to the grass tearing it out by the roots when it was
pulled up off the ground.
Take Psilocybe Cyanescens for example. Most of you might know that
this is one of the most powerful of all psychoactive mushrooms. I have
talked to other people who ate this mushroom. Some, who by the way could
boast about how many Psilocybe cybensis mushrooms they could eat, can't
even look at a mushroom they might see in the grocery store..........I
would advise anybody to go lightly on this one. The point I want to make
is that this mushroom, and Psilocybe pelliculosa, prove the somewhat theory
I have. When these mushrooms are grown under liquid media, they do not
produce any psilocybin or psilocin. This was also found to be true by P.
Catalfomo and V.E. Tyler, Jr.. They published the same findings about
Psilocybe cyanescens and Psilocybe pelliculosa......they do not produce
psilocybing or any other analogs (Catalfomo, P. and V.E. Tyler, Jr. _The
production of psilocybin in submerged culture of Psilocybe cubensis_
LLoydia 27:53-63, 1964). However, once the mycelium of one of these two
is transferred to an agar or grain media, it does produce psilocybin and
psilocin. This finding sets the stage for a landmark statement by myself.
Using Psilocybe cyanescens and Ps. pelliculosa for standards, I suggest
that "in some types of mushrooms the mycelium may find it's way to a new
feeding substrate and this new substrate that is not normally used by the
particular mushroom or will support complete growth of said mushroom,
allows the mushroom to produce compounds not normally produced because of
the addition of needed nutrients. In these cases, the mushroom was always
capable of producing such compounds but the needed nutrients were never
there on the normal substrate." This phenomenon may very well explain why
some mycologists and mushroom hunters suddenly become ill after eating a
mushroom they identified as a safe edible (eaten many times by the same
victim). Say for instance you found an Oyster mushroom growing from a
large fallen tree. On the tree was say some raccoon dung that the Oyster's
mycelium grew out on.........this would supply new and different nutrients
not usually found by the Oyster mushroom. The mycelium in turn uses the new
nutrients and produces a bad toxin. You pick mushrooms produced in the dung
area and suddenly you are telling everybody you were poisoned by an Oyster
mushroom......and you know without a doubt that no misidentification
had occurred. How many times have I heard this story? This may be what is
going on with the Peele's Lepiota. I now know that when these Lepiota
mushrooms are picked and there is no mat condition, there are no effects.
I also now know the pH of the fruiting area is also paramount. I had
sent Jeremy some soil samples from where I had collected the Lepiota and
he confirmed thath the pH of 4 - 5.6 (the pH of the soil samples I sent)
was very important. I wondered why the pH in the areas so acid like, and
I later found out. When the cows would lay down for the night, they would
all lay sort of close together. In the morning when they woke up, they
would all stand and urinate in the area.......this is what was changing the
pH.
Oct. 1, 1982, Jeremy writes to me saying the following: "A test in
Sprague Dawley rats is underway. No deaths yet - but I am waiting to see
the offspring who ate (without coaxing) and without any other food, a 2.5
gram fresh (cap unopened) specimen. In the growth chambers I continually
notice that young specimens have a volva - and these become caved at
maturity - with having white fuzz - rendering the volva invisible - can you
check field specimens?" When I checked field specimens I found the same
thing. The very young mushrooms did have a volva, but when the mushroom
matured, it had no volva or any signs that one was once there. Jeremy
continued his trials with the rats never seeing any effects from the Lepiota
mushroom.
Jeremy then started telling me in his letter of Oct. 12, 1982, that
Michael Beug and his one time student Paul Stamets were continually
harassing him for working with me on the Lepiota mushroom. Paul's gripe
was that I named the mushroom after myself. This is untrue as Jeremy and
his team have the common name of Peele's Lepiota, later to be identified as
Luecogaricus ginerascens, and then later as identified by myself as Lepiota
humei. Jeremy said in his letter that Paul asked him "How could you work
with such an egotist?" If I had carried a mirror - I would have passed it
to him!. I told him that you were unfamiliar with this field and the
intricacies of nomenclature procedure - but that I felt the common name
"Peele's Lepiota" was acceptable because I do not mind a common name which
carries the name of a person." I also needed some type of name in order to
place it in FMRC's catalog. Jeremy then goes on to tell me that he had
worked 5 months to cultivate a fruiting of the mushroom and that 24 liquid
media did not produce any results.
By the first part of 1983, Jeremy had not only isolated the new
active compound in the Lepiota, he had even synthesized it. The compound
itself had a short life of only a day or two and the it broke down to some
other non-active compound as psilocybin and psilocin will do. Jeremy told
me that the only way he found to slow down the breakdown and make the
compound last longer, was to submerge the mushrooms in chlorinated water.
The chlorine helped hold the compound's structure. Because of this, this
mushroom cannot be dried and then stored for later testing.....the compound
will no longer exist. Jeremy also asked me if I had smoked any freshly
dried samples. I told him no. He then pointed out that the same effect
would occur. According to Peter Stafford, Jeremy told him the mushroom
contained LSA, DMT and many other alkaloids.
Jeremy continued testing on the rats never seeing any effects. His
sacns for compounds in the mushroom also continued. He told me that the
only other mushroom that he had ever worked with that showed as many
different compounds and different peaks was Panaeolus subbalteatus. He
also told me that they had found a compound produced by the human brain.
I do not remember the compound's name, but I do remember Jeremy telling me
that it was the first time this compound was ever found in any plant tissue.
Jeremy then called one morning telling me that someone had broken into the
lab he was working and had sabotaged all of his standards. All of the
cultures had been padlocked......they did not get any of this. He told me
that a lot of other people were mad and upset because they did not know
what was going on. They all wanted to be number one and could not stand
taking a backseat while this research was leaving them behind. He never
told me who he thought broke into the lab, but I have always had my own
ideas. Jeremy then left the University and moved all the research to
Vashon Island and started working with Jonathan Ott. Jeremy then left to
go to Nicaragua......I never heard from him again.
We might have learned many new things about mushrooms, but because
Jeremy was not allowed to work in peace at the University, this important
research still stands today as unfinished. Jeremy and I both received undue
harassment and skepticism by our colleagues while trying to find the
truth.........I still today 10 years after get bad comments over this by
other "so called mushroom experts" who know it all. I hope that these
people and the ones who broke into Jeremy's lab will someday think about
what they have done. I have always felt that my purpose in mushrooms was
to increase awareness and knowledge in this area............What have these
people done or contributed to help serve this objective? I think nothing
else is needed to be said.
From this point on I will refer any comments to me on Peele's
Lepiota to this article. I am not responsible for any of the subject matter
which may appear in other publications by other authors on Peele's Lepiota.
I only endorse this, and the Lepiota peele, Peele ms. of of 1982 both
published by FMRC.
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Various aspects of the story seem a little off to me. Also, I might point out to anyone reading please do not,not,not test unidentified mushrooms by eating them and waiting to see if you notice toxic effects. Sheesh!
Now I have also heard that the whole thing is some manner of hoax. Perhaps the most intruiging yarn along these lines I've come across is this correspondence between several figures in mycology that many of you will undoubtedly recognize. The following is taken from another forum so no source will be posted here.
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From Michael Beug 7-7-2003
Peele's Lepiota also apparently was suppose to be a
psilocybian shroom according to Jeremy's original
analysis, except that Lepiota story by Peele was a
pretty bad hoax.
Jeremy even now admits that there was something wrong
since numerous people have also analyzed that shroom
with no positive results.
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Bigwood-6-8-2003a - confusing but some of Jeremy’s first works on this plant. And Peeles tale of its so-called discovery
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From: "Jeremy Bigwood"
To: tjakko.stijve, "'J. Allen'" <mjshroomer1@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Peele's Lepiota
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:29:17 -0400
Wow, Tjakko--I had forgotten that you had done all of that. And I just reopened ourcorrespondence from that period. I would like to see this paper from the US ncy -- was it the DEA? I am sure that the exudates of the mycelium from this mushroom grown inculture contained something entheogenic. But, I don't even know if thehoney-like exudate was some kind of artifact of my cultivation or if it also occurred in the wild. And I do remember a TLC plate that I must have told you about in 1983 that I made after I had left Evergreen in which there appeared to be a standard fingerprint for psilocybin, etc. But since that was unconfirmed by Beug's HPLC, and I hadn't re-verified the standards with NMR since we had had Our incursion by theives, I guess it doesn't count.The bottom line for me it that if Tjakko, Akers, and others have foundnothing of interest in this mushroom, and there has been no group using it in all of these years, it should be discarded in the dustbin of history!There is nothing to be gained and a lot to be lost in getting more people to try to check it out for activity -- and risk having them confuse it with other Lepiotas. So, as far as I am concerned, dump it! I certainly don't want to create an issue about it.But whatever you guys wish to do, go for it!Cheers!Jeremy BigwoodPS: Is Peele still making noises about this?XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX-----Original Message-----From: Tjakko Stijve] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:37 PMTo: John AllenCc: bigwoodHi John,Great to hear that you are again going to South-East Asia.Have a good trip!I was glad to receive a mail from good ole Jeremy Bigwood informing me of his past &present activities. He also told me about your interest in Peele's Lepiota.Back in 1983 I analysed Jeremy's lyophylised collections for everythingin the book : psilocin/psilocybin, DMT, bufotenin, beta carbolines,adrenochrome, etc., but all tests were negative! I even tested forclassical mushroom toxins such as amatoxins, muscarine ibotenic acid,etc, but did not find any.Jeremy still maintains that the 'shroom is psychoactive, and that itcontains psilocybin. I find it hard to believe.Perhaps you should read Brian P. Akers, " Peele's Lepiota: an identification and clarification".Mycotaxon Vol. XLIII, pp 461 - 469 (1992)Akers identified it as LEPIOTA HUMEI Murrill, and bioassayed it withnegative results. This seems to corroborate my negative chemicalanalyses.It seems that there has also been a published statement from a US Agency declaring Peele's Lepiota a hoax, but I dont have it in my files.I can airmail you a copy of Akers' paper, and Jeremy Bigwood'sbeautiful photograph of his cultures. It is the same picture that waspublished 20 years ago in HIGH TIMES. I dont have any other material.Please confirm your interest and I'll send it off.Best regards,Tjakko
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6-19-2003b
From Jeremy Bigwood to John Allen
Hi, John—
I did a Google search on Peele’s Lepiota and found 4 pages of links! I am amazed that the story continues!
Have you or anyone else met Mr. Peele? What is he like? I only corresponded with him by letter and telephone. Do you have a way to contact him?
Lets hypothesize that Tjakko and Akers are correct, and Peele is a complete fraud – then what did he have to gain from doing this? He certainly invested a lot of time in it. He made several collections and was constantly calling up to see if I had been able to produce carpophores. Why invest all of this time if he knew it was a total fake?
I do not understand these motivations.
Jeremy Bigwood
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From: "Jeremy Bigwood"
To: "'J. Allen'" <mjshroomer1@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: More questions about peele
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:49:03 -0400
Hey, John--Thanks for the rapid, but detailed response.So he has a journal -- and you are an editor? Oh well, no harm in that.I wish I had perceived him as flakey years ago! It would have saved a Lot of trouble!How did he have a DEA license for psilocybin and psilocin? What a coup!At Evergreen we got one, but only because of Beug -- and certainly notbecause of me, Ott or Stamets! We received only a small amount of each for use as a standard from NIDA (actually, it was a big small amount -- I think it was 400 mg of each). All of it went to standards for HPTLC or otherforms of chromatography -- except some that was stolen by the person Idiscussed in an earlier message.Yes, you are right about Peele's rants. I wonder about what he says That Peter Stafford had told him - that the mushroom contained a whole wish List of things.Mazatec shamans, eh? Echoes of Don Juan and Castaneda...The funny thing is that his Lepiota's mycelium did produce an Intriguing honey-coloured goop. But it is possible that the goop was a contaminant in the cultures - a bacterium for all I know. Occasionally I had contaminants that could co-exist with the fungi in a variety of media -- but not very often. And my own entheogenic experience one night in the lab could have been brought on by a couple of students running around at the time who liked to dose their unwitting friends with LSD. Could be... but who knows -- and there is no way to find out for sure at this point.Tjakko suggests that I forget about it -- he actually said "do nothing About it." And I think that is very wise advice. I will follow it.If you haven't contacted Peele, there is no need to do so. I can livewithout his ramblings just fine! If you have already contacted him, that is fine also. Thanks a lot for filling me in on all of this.I really appreciate it.In symbiosis (as I used to say many years ago)Jeremy BigwoodPS: Thanks for including warnings about look-alike fungi on your website.It is both responsible and professional. Thanks again!-----Original Message-----From: J. Allen [mailto:mjshroomer1@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:59 AMTo: Jeremy BigwoodHi Jeremy,Currently I am one of the co-editors of his journalTeonanacatl. HE bestowed this on me. I cannot figurehim out.I personally think he is a little strange in his beliefsBetween you and I only, he is a little strange andRuns a Florida Mycology Research Center out of hishome??.When I was in Florida in 1979, he lived in a traileron a pasture somewhere. Use to have a DEA liscensefor Psilocine and psilocybine. They took it away fromhim.There may be an account at my web-site in theGrapevine section in Florida.He rants and rambles worst than me. Promoting a lotof strange writings on shrooms, motly heresay andfrom other peoples jpurnal writings.He tells some very strange stories, One he tried toimpress on me was about the Mazatec shamans whocollect P, mexicana truffles from the earth and usedthem ritualisticly. I challenged him on where he got his info from and hetold me a Mazatec he met told him so.I think sclrotia in the cow field would be extremelyrare for a mushroom like P. mexicana which relies onthe roots of wild grasses to fruit.I have also heard bs stories from Florida of peopleclaiming the indians knew of the shrooms, again a lie.I'll find his email for you in the morning. btw, Ipersonally never believe that the shroom had thesechemicals in them. And no.No one ever found those shrooms again.I will asked Tjakko (he's retired now) about hisanalysis.A few years ago Tjakko sent me a paper from Africawhich described in taxonomic detail that Chlorophylummolybdites was a hallucinogenic mushroom in Africa. This appeared in a respectable African MedicalJournal.Anyway I am a little intoxicated at the moment and itis a little difficult to communicate.And The Peele quetion kinda disturnbed me. I am not toreally sure that I want to be associated with hisJournal.He will probably send you a free copy.ANyway, Later,John
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From: J. Allen [mailto:mjshroomer1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Jeremy Bigwood
Hi Jeremy, I am sorry that should have read as Peele's
email addy, not Pollock's.
Yes the lady at Harvard gave me a real hard time
threaten me with their lawyers if I did not removed
the Wasson archival list from the bibliography of
entheogenic fungi, which is actually 2400 listings,
not 1400 as I inadvertently typed in the last missive.
Nicolas Sands was a big distributor for LSD.
AS for Enos, I do like his little booklet, although
many claimed the water colored oimages were poor
representatives of the species.
It was actually a picture of P. pelliculosa in A. H.
Smith's Field Guide to Western Mushrooms which led me
to find a liberty cap.
Although Jules Stevens (Steve Jewell) and Richard Gee
(Rich Guiterrez) , as well as Guzman say the two
species are indestinguishable. I think they are very
different.
ADn Many mistaks and aerr0ors still exist in many
field guides and even in many published articles in
academic journals are wrought with errors.
Have a shroomy day.
Oh yes, Steven was murdered and his body was
discovered by one of his girl friends.
I think Paul had just talked to him before the murder
or maybe it was Weil who did. One of them told me
about it on the phone years ago.
John.
I will see if I can find that Harvard letter from
those pompous assess, as Dick Schultes once said to
me, There are some pompous asses at Harvard."
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From: "Jeremy Bigwood"
To: "'J. Allen'" <mjshroomer1@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: More questions about peele
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:34:17 -0400
Thanks, John. I'll respond in caps.-----Original Message-----From: J. Allen [mailto:mjshroomer1@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:09 PMTo: Jeremy BigwoodHi Jeremy, I never had a permit but peele did.HE DID -- OR HE SAID HE DID?I wanted to bring up an interesting story. Do not knowhow much is truth or what.In paul Stamet's new book, Psilocybin Mushrooms fo theWorld,There is a picture of an unidentified Psilocybe fromNorthern Thailand. Looks similar to P. cyanscenscomplex.It is my understanding that the shrooms were collectedby Gary Lincoff.I waw told by a friend of Paul's that Lincoff wasparanoid about mailing it to the USA from Thailand sohe ate the specimens.HAHAHA... WHAT A NUT!Now I do not know about that, but even Peter Gormanfound a new specis in Tamilnadu, India in the WesternGhat mountains east of Goa.GORMAN FOUND A NEW SPECIES did he have IT ACCEPTED BY A PROFESSIONAL LIKEGASTÓN? No! He to was unable to get samples to the USA because ofparanoia.WHAT WAS THAT CROSBY, STILL, AND NASH SONG ABOUT PARANOIA...? Paranoia strikes Deep, Into your heart it will creep, Singing songs and carrying signs. Stop Children, what’s that sound, everyone look whats goin round/I know that any mycologist can collect a specimen, anddeliver it to a colleague at a University in thecountry he is in and have it mailed to his owndepartment in the USA without any legal hassles.Jeremy says: “WHEN I CAME BACK FROM MXICO AND BELIZE IN 1981 I APPLIED AND GOT A LICENSE FROM USDA TO BRING IN SPECIMENS. I DECLARED THESE SPECIMENS AT THE BORDER. THERE WAS AMAJOR SEARCH AND THEY LET ME THROUGH WITH SEVERL SAMPLES OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS. WHEN OTT, ME, POLLOCK AND OTHERS COLLECTED IN MÉXICO AND GUATEMALA IN 1976 WE HAD NO USDA PERMIT, BUT SCOTT CHILToN JUST BULLSHITTED THE BORDERPERSONEL. SAMPLES CAN ALSO BE SENT. SOMEWHERE I HAVE THE USDA PROTOCOL FOR SENDING AIRDRIED OR LYOPHILIZED SAMPLES THROUGH THE MAIL. Shit, look at all of the Psilocybe specimens from theUSA and other parts of the world which are listed inGuzman's The Genus Psilocybe.All the Oregon and Washington collections are inthehundreds of separate collections. I mail Guzman,Gartz, Shulgin, and numerous herbariums around theworld and I never had a permit for anything. I justdo what I do. I have never been hassled. When it comesto something new, I will go out of my way to get ithere or wherever it needs to be sent to.I will mention that I too have even had ID problemswith Guzman. He even misplaced and once lost a new speciesI personally handled to him at a shroom conference ortwo. One in 1977 at the 2nd Int. Conf. on Hallucinogenic shrooms and one at one of theMyco-Media conferences, the one published in Head MagazineGuzman, misidentified one new species as another.Jeremy says, he is good at confusing everyone.HE WAS ALWAYS THAT WAY! THAT WAY HE MAINTAINS COMPLETE CONTROL OFEVERYTHING...Anyway. Here is Pollock's email.POLLOCK'S? BUT I HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT STEVE IS QUITE DEAD -- OR AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT STAMETS SAID WHEN HE (POLLOCK) WAS SUPPOSEDLY SHOT IN THE HEAD SO MANY YEARS AGO. I will say his writings are not very professional, butthen he is of the Pecos Bill, Paul Bunyan, FloridaShroom Wizard calibre. OR DO YOU MEAN PEELE? Yes I meant Peeles address for you.As for legend, Of course, I, as MushroomJohn, am also part of that legend. JUDGING BY WHAT YOU SAY AND HOW YOU SAY IT, PEELE IS A LITTLE BEING IN YOUR SHADOW. And then there wasLeonard Enos who may or may not have snitched onNicolas Sands. Jonathan seems to think so. He atuallyasked me to excise Enos from a picture in one of mybooks.Jeremy wrote: ENOS'BOOK WAS AN IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION IN ITS TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS SANDS WAS, BUT ENOS MAY DESERVE CREDIT FOR HIS INOVATION AND PERHAPS OUTRAGE FOR THE REST. WHATEVER. Jeremy, Nicolas Sands was a chemist who made much LSD and according to Ott and some others, Leonard Enos was the snitch who got Sands busted.have a shroomy day,JohnS I mentioned, if I get my jewell cases soon and can burn my cd-roms before I go to Asia in a month, I willget you a copy of the bibliography. Had a bigpersonal battle with the Harvard Pompous lawyerassholes who were denying me and Gartz permission touse an online listing of the items donated by Wassonand his wife to Harvard.REALLY. HAVE OTT STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT!I even have a note from Gordon which he wrote for megiving me permission to view such items.However, Harvard says that since Gordon is Dead, hislibrary is no more and they have moved all of hiscontributions into several different libraries atharvard.WHAT? THAT IS ATRICIOUS. JONTHAN SHOULD BE RAISING HOLY HELL.They also denied me permission to go throuogh the cardcatalogues to make my own index for the bibliographyof enthogenic shrooms, which is a tribute to Gordon'sfirst bibliography int he Harvard Botanical MuseumLeaflets.SLIMEBAG MOULDS, THOSE HARVARD TYPES!He had about 390 listings in 1962. I have expandedthat to 1400 listings, 8000 cross-references, 17--annotations and more than 700 large photographs withthumbnails.HAVE OTT RECTIFY ALL THAT...Anyway, now I am rambling on.ME TOO! CHEERS!later,Jeremy, once time I had a long personal talk with Dick Schultes and as honorable a man he was, he did note to me that there were a lot of pompous asses at Harvard.JB
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15 July 2003 from Jeremy
Oooh! You sure know how to raise hell!!!
I think you need to ask Jonathan to intervene and get you what you want
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but a little more subtly...
As for the L. Peele issue, I am grateful that it is dead.
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