Drug info - MDMA + "Liquid ecstasy"? A weird experience. Dont have answers.

[shanti101]

Hi! This is my first post here. I hope im posting in the right place and not breaking any rules.

Ok, This is gonna be reaaaallly long. But please read!

SWIM comes from a place where good MDMA can be quite hard to get let alone "liquid ecstasy". Yeah yeah he knows theres nothing like that and doesnt believe what he had was that but then SWIM had a strange experience the other day and doesnt have an answer to what happend. If someone can help SWIM out it would be much appreciated!

SWIM had pure MDMA for the first time a couple of months back and loved it. It was followed by an afterglow that lasts till today. Sadly that batch got over that very day and SWIM wanted to try it again soon. A few weeks ago SWIMs friend managed to procure another batch but this time it was brown in colour instead of the pure white crystals he had the first time. It looked dissapointing. Anyway, SWIM and his friend had it (about 150 mg each). There were barely any effects. So, they picked out bigger clearer crystals from it, crushed and snorted it. After about half n hour it really kicked in. But by then SWIM was at home. Effects that followed were, he couldnt stopped staring at the TV, some slow sad songs were playing which sounded great and was also very talkitive on the phone.

Anyhow, the main part comes now. SWIM was out with his friends the other day and they had some of the same brown shit orally. They finished it all (about 160 gms each). While some people felt nothing, SWIM and his one friend (the same guy who got it) felt it come on slightly. But they were already quite stoned and drunk so it could be mixed up, even placeboish.
Now, SWIMs other friend takes out this bottle claiming that its liquid MDMA. SWIM doesnt believe it ofcourse but wants to try it anyway.
SWIM would describe the liquid as such- It was crystal clear, looked exactly like water. It smelled HORRIBLE. A sickly sweetish chemical smell and tasted even worse. The worst thing hes ever tasted. They had mixed a vodka bottle capfull into a little beer and took big sips each. The taste was still very strong and disgusting.

The thing came on in like 5 minutes flat. It was pure energy! and at that moment couldnt describe the feeling. It was a rush that no words could describle. Very powerfull, really intense and amazing! No inhibitions. Music was sounding really really good. They bounced around for a while, everything was fantastic! But not like MDMA. Different but good.

SWIM wakes up to find himself in a toolshed nearby sitting on a chair with a friend waking him up and telling him hes puked on himself and that he should rest and other advice. It was like a dream state. SWIM is confused and disoriented. It is not like him to do that. He remembers vaguely that he went to the toolshed on his own and sat there and also remembers puking a little and not caring the slightlest. He doesnt know why he went there. There was no reason to. The rush was still there but less. SWIM finds his other friend who had it out cold on the table and is told that he had wandered off into the night and was found lying in a bush! He was completely unresponsive and woke up only after half n hr of constantly shaking him. He didnt say a word after that and only smiled a little and is clueless about what and how that happend. Later he said he has no memory of why and how he ended up in a bush or anything else. This whole episode lasted about 4 hrs.

What was it that they had? It was really strange. He knows that it wasnt liquid x. Was it GHB? Does it do that? Does it taste and smell and like that too? Its not likely that GHB is available here. Please note that we had mixed alcohol, hashish, mdma and the liquid stuff. No one uses GHB here recreationally as far as he knows. Its probably really rare. Apparently the guy who got it has a whole gallon of this shit and wants to give it away for free. No one knows where and how he got it If it something really expensive he wouldnt just give it away.

There is no way of testing anything. No kit i can buy here or go anywhere. The drug culture is very very different here. Can anyone give any answers as to what it could be?

[bman1]

No one here can tell you what you have, Best answer is the test kit. "SWIM is confused and disoriented" & "He was completely unresponsive and woke up only after half n hr of constantly shaking him" sounds like GHB. some people call ghb "liquid X" One can easily find a test kit using google.

Welcome to the forums!!

[shanti101]

Thanks for your reply!

Damn...that couldve been risky. SWIM was pretty drunk too!

[adzket]

swim has only knowen pure mdma powder to come in brownish powder rather than white, swim asumes this is because of street labs', but the only time they have ever heard of liquid e was as a brand name for ghb when it was legal to buy hear in sex shop's in the 90's, also the type of effects swiy describes also sound like a ghb/gbl overdose but like what was said above this can't be a difinitve answer unless the drug is tested. or the person is after use. plus why does swim think ghb would be unavalible where they are, it is relativly easy to get on-line ect so there for anyone determind enough could get it, hence why in alot of city's it is what is used for a date rape drug. also it says swim is in india, alot of drugs are avalible in india as it is one of the bigest generic drug makers and ghb is a pharmacutical drug aswell. also with the amount of lab's around people can also make illegal drugs.

[shanti101]

yes, swim agrees that someone determined enough to get it could get it and is probably the case here as well. its just that this is the first time swim has ever heard of ghb being used recreationaly in his area plus date rapes dont happen here. yes one could get all types of drugs here but india is a very big and culturally diverse country and the part of india where swim is from the drug culture especially is different and not like the goa, manali etc. culture which is all most tourists know of india. SWIM already had a sneaky feeling it was G and is glad he experienced something probably no one has around here.

Thanks..

[adzket]

swim would agree traverling across india you do see difirent things but swim found if they when to a pharmicy and asked they got dont know if that is just because they where westen or not though. goa was disapointing and to many police about for swims likeing.

[shanti101]

yes, goa is not what it used to be.

[saline29]

could be liquid x, but you don't really end up that way unless you have a lot and mix it with another depressant. You might drift to sleep for a couple of hours and wake up. Wouldn't mix any drugs if swim were you. That dude probably got his g by ordering and making it himself, but that's risky shit; I'm sure he wants to get rid of it already. When swim has a big supply of G, at first he wants more and more, but when he's had enough, he just wants to throw it away, but it's hard to, cause it's "not cheap." The chemicals all together are expensive. If swim bought GBL to make GHB, then he easily spent over a hundred dollars. GBL, plus sodium hydroxide, plus ph strips, and all the cookware, thermometer, etc, aren't really cheap. Plus, G is about half as potent as just drinking GBL or 1, 4 b. Swim could probably pick up 1, 4 butanediol, by just looking on Google; but he must check if it is legal where swim lives; swim knows it is legal in some places in America, but not in other States. 1, 4 lasts longer. As far as mdma...swim thinks it could be found in most clubs if swim got to talking with people in the scene. swim still wouldn't combine anything, and probably just wouldn't do any drugs. Even G starts to be a shitty high after a while... swim no longer gets good rest and feels quite dehydrated. It is fine if he doesn't do it much though.