Other - Likelyhood of recieving medication for ADHD with drug possesion charge for adderall?

[doggy_hat]

SWIM used to be prescribed Vyvanse (Lisdexamphetamine, if I'm correct) 30mg a day. He found it very beneficial, not just for schoolwork, but also for helping with depression, and he never used it in a way not as prescribed. However the doc and his parents decided to abruptly stop his script. He seeked out ADHD medication outside of the doctor's office, and got busted with possession of 5 10mg Adderall XRs. The medication he was arrested with was going to be used in low doses, not in binges.

Is there any possibility that SWIM could again get a ADHD medication script again? Are there laws against prescribing to drug possession offenders? He is really falling behind in school work and would really benefit from a stimulant script.

[Felix Guattari]

The scare over the 'abuse' of stimulant ADD meds was predestined to screw a lot of people over in a lot of different ways.

If you're trying to get an adderall script, the best thing you can do is explain your situation to your doctor and hope that s/he can understand. However, I think its somewhat more likely that you'll be given another, less 'abusable' med like atomoxetine or bupropion, the efficacies of which vary much more significantly than those of the faster-working add drugs. YMMV. A lot.

That said, its worth looking into modafinil or adrafinil (a prodrug of the aforementioned), which can be purchased fairly easily and cheaply online. If it weren't for the interests of a few pharmaceutical companies, modafinil would be a first line medication for ADD anyways.

Hope this helps.

[julian]

As far as swim knows, there is no background check before when one receives a prescription.

Just go to swiy's doctor and tell him the symptoms swiy is having. If swiy is a minor, swiy may have to get consent from his parents.

[Felix Guattari]

Right.. I didn't think of just going to another doctor.. I guess that's how doctor shopping works..

[doggy_hat]

SWIM didn't realize that doctors didn't do criminal background checks. He's had alot of difficulties with receiving scripts in the past. Despite the fact that school teachers have recommend him going to the doctors for ADHD multiple times, doctors always tell him that he's highly likely to abuse drugs, and was lucky just to get a Vynvanse script, which unfortunately didn't even last a month.

[Ranke]

If doctors are telling swiy that he is likely to abuse stimulent meds, then something swiy is saying must be raising red flags. Swim would suggest not mentioning any previous drug use or depression. Also, asking directly for adderall will raise red flags. Take what they suggest, then come back in a week or two and say it is not working. They will try a few things and if swiy is in the US, they will eventually try adderall.

[doggy_hat]

SWIM doesn't specifically ask for any drug, actually based on his experience with ADHD meds, he actually finds that Methylphenidate is the most beneficial, he isn't specifically looking for adderall. and he also tries to hide his drug knowledge and not use words like amphetamines in the doctors presence, as he knows doctors seem to only trust patients that they think are completely oblivious to what they are being prescribed. SWIM thinks it may just be his image, especially since he used to have shoulder length hair which seems to associated with the image of a drug user. However he cut his hair for court, so it's shorter now.

SWIM will be seeing a new doctor though. As many things haven't been working out with the old one(and not just inability to acquire ADHD meds). SWIM is going to visit the new doctor pretty soon, wish SWIM luck. Anybody have any extra tips on how to come off less as a drug abuser for SWIM?

[kerang]

Well doctors are supposed to help people at it's not there job to do "police investigations"

Swim understands swiy worry about his past, but the doc will only know what his patients tell him! And even then it's not uncommon for adults with ADD to have a drughistory. Medical personell with some experience in this field know this and will not deny treatment for those in need.

However it best not to mention anything, and swiyour plan on playing ignorant about stimulants seem the best strategy.
Where swim's at, ritalin instant relese it the doctors first choise it seems.

Good idea to have "ordinairy" appearance, but no need to dress up like it a court either. How would one dress if one go see the doctor for an ache? One would just go wearing everyday clotes

[doggy_hat]

SWIM just got back from the doctor's office today. It was amazed by how easy it was. Basically he went in, got his blood pressure checked and all of the stuff doctor's always do, told the doc he thinks he has ADHD, and then without asking any questions at all, the doctor gave him a script for Concerta(methylphenidate extended release) 18mg a day. SWIM's so happy, as he thought maybe he'd have to take adderall for a while before switching to methylphenidate, as Adderall seems to be alot more common. He can't believe how easy it was. It really is just a matter of what doctor you have.

SWIM will be going back in a month, and most likely get the dosage boosted up to the next dosage.

[doggy_hat]

Originally Posted by betsym

Doggy Hat, just in case you ever have trouble again,swiy should know that swiy's doctor had NO business stopping swiy's script abruptly as this could lead to withdrawals and depression! The fact that swiy is behind in his schoolwork should clue someone in to the fact that swiy needs his meds! Swiy can request an evaluation from his school for ADHD if swiy has a problem again. Talk to a counselor. They can't NOT listen since the school, parents, and the doctor could ALL be held responsible for whatever happens from swiy having his meds witheld from him.The fact that swiy was caught with Adderall not prescribed to him only shows how much he needs his meds! Many people who are ADHD and have gone undiagnosed self-medicate with hardcore stimulants, such as methamphetamine and cocaine so they should be glad that swiy didn't resort to THAT!That doesn't make them criminals. Swim has ADHD herself and takes Adderall on on as-needed basis. Of course, swim is not a teenager so doesn't haven't to worry about uninformed parents yanking her off her meds. Adults with ADHD often need medication just to hold down a job. Swim has children who has been on ADHD meds before and let THEM have a say in the decision about whether to take meds or not. Just let swiy's grades slide further and the folks will get the message soon enough. If swiy's parents care at all about schoolwork and swiy's ability to do it, they will take steps to have swiy evaluated by a doctor who has enough sense to KNOW that ADHD meds CANNOT be stopped abruptly without serious consequences for the patient! Swim once took a one-month break from her meds during her second year of college when she was out for Christmas break and had terrible withdrawals. She did not know that she wasn't supposed to quit taking her meds abruptly like that until she asked the doctor about why she feeling so bad. Now, swim has been out of college a few years and takes her meds when she needs to and in a manner that will prevent her from having such an experience again. Some would argue why take a medication that has such side effects but then maybe they don't understand the side effects of NOT taking medication. Stand up for swiy's rights as a student and as a person. Swim is glad to see that swiy visited another doctor and is doing better. Doctors can sometimes tell a lot just by observing a patient with ADHD. Good luck.

Yeah, there were alot of problems that SWIM had with his old doctor. She had a tendency to strongly push SSRI's down his throat, and despite the fact that he kept declining them, she'd just switch to a different type every visit. And she get a bit hostile(for lack of better words) when I refused a Anxiety med Script. And there was her abruptly stopping the Vyvanse too. There really wasn't anything SWIM liked about her.

The doctor SWIM visited today probably didn't see that there was much to do, as SWIM told him that he was prescribed Vynvanse. So he figured SWIM was already diagnosed, and that he just needed to try something else. Though he did come off a bit as the type of doctor that's uninvolved and just hands out scripts. SWIM doesn't want to judge him on just one visit.

SWIM really can't imagine cocaine being effective for self medication. Maybe small oral doses of meth, since it's more available on the black market than ADHD pills, but still not likely. Although maybe the recreational use of these drugs may be more appealing to an ADHD person. In addition to the other effects, an ADHD person would probably really likes the feeling of being extremely productive, and feelings of intense motivation. And could see how these two attributes of the high would be especially appealing to an ADHD person as compared to a non ADHD person.

[runitsthepolice]

Swim read somewhere that medical science considers attempting to self medicate a symptom of ADD. When swim went to get his first script he actually told the doc that he had been buying addys off his friend and that it really helped him in school. The doc was very understanding and wrote him a script minutes later. There is hope for swiy!

[humdroid]

Y is not based in the USA, but if Y was a doctor in the US he would ask the adderall offender if he had offended with adderall to give himself an attention span.
As a doctor, Y woud take your adderall mis-use as an ADHD symptom, but to prescribe speed to a kid, is asking for a meth addicted addult eh?
Y hasen't got an attention span, and abused base - Y is in his forties so ADHD wouldnt be diagnosed.