Opinions - Crumbling?

[MDgirl]

Hi, I'm new to the board, and found it while trying to find an answer to the following question...

-I have done E 2x before, and both times the pill was well formed and stayed together (though split easily if need be). I just got some. This stuff falls apart super super easy. Is this a sign that is is junk?

This may seem like a dumb question, but I really am serious, I have no idea.

Thanks for any responses.

[fiveleggedrat]

Self incrimination is forbidden. Please use SWIM or equiv. Thanks.

Pill makers all do different stuff in the manufacturing process.

Could be a not tightly enough pressed pill.

Could be a completely different pill.

Be safe, it could be different drugs.

[Fantasian]

As 5legrat said above, crumbling really doesnt dictate anything, often people believe if the pill is pressed badly or from bad fillers and crumbles it tends to have lower amounts of MDMA, bad crumbly pill = bad product, bad quality etc. But to be perfectly honest it's a myth, pills can come in all differant colours, densities, crumblinesses( is that a word ) and could have massively varying amounts of MDMA in. There is no way a typical lay person could tell the ingredients, never mind a random person over the otherside of the world behind a computer.

Best bet is to buy a pill testing kit like EZtest, they're legal (in the UK anyway) and are a simple and easy way to tell if MDMA is present in the pill.

Second to that one can check pill report websites (NOT THIS ONE) and that can often give a clue toward what the pill has in it but it's far from an exact science.

If in doubt start low and work upwards remember that one can always dose higher but one doesnt have the priveledge of reversing an overdose that easily, especially if there are other unknown chemicals inside the pill. That all said most pills will either be "duds" or MDMA very few if taken as one or two will result in anything serious (with the occasional exception)

Feel free to ask any further questions and check the rules in relation to self incrimination as 5legs pointed out.

[RaverHippie]

One theory that I had heard before was that crumbly pills tended to have a higher mdma/binder+adulterant ratio since MDMA resists being formed into pills.

For real information, fantasian's post is right on.

[dpayne]

If swim were to make BANGER pills u can bet ur bottom dollar they wouldnt be crumbling.....
Maybe crumbling doesnt DICTATE anything but crumbling sure does indicate poorly manufactured product....
As to strength of the product the rule of thumb has to be know and trust ur source, swim has had the most ghetto/ caveman pressed chunks that were dynamite and all to many flawless in apearance duds..

Swim has come to the thoery that price per unit doesnt change week to week for the consumer but you can bet ur bottom dollar that it may go up or down at the wholesale level and sometimes it might be REALLY REALLY CHEAP to good not to get in on so even the most reliable source may execute some elementary school mathematics and not be able to say no to the profit margin he or she stands to make.