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Old 19-09-2008, 07:41
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smoking heroin : alternatives to tin foil

any type of pipe?
or is teh foil method the best.

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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

Welcome swiychadchadchad,swims not 100% sure he understands your question but will try to answer.

when trials were being done in holland back in the early 90's two different ways of smoking heroin were looked at,one involved the traditional running along a piece of tin foil and the other method involved heating the heroin on a small brass heating block.The results showed that the action of moving heroin along the tin foil(running)showed far greater levels of heroin,6-acetylmorphine and morphine were present in tested plasma samples.

So putting it in simple terms the best way to smoke h is "chasing the dragon"

source:journal of parmaceutical and biomedical analysis...

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i find it a very interesting piece of information
Good information

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Old 30-09-2008, 00:41
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

swim dont see why not as H can be smoked in a joint,so if you put some tobacco in a pipe and sprinkled on some H i guess you could smoke away although i would imagine it to be quite wastefull and anyway theres no real reason to go about it in this way.....
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Old 30-09-2008, 22:27
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

Dose SWIM mean out of a crack pipe? If so then yes it can be smoked through that and you don't even need to add tobacco to it, not with the glass pipes made out of bottles anyway. The high off it is a bit stronger than off the foil and is quite nice though can leave a nasty taste in your mouth. It is also more wastefull. But I would say worth the try, SWIM before she began to fix found it very good to smoke through a pipe when she was sick rather than off the foil.
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

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swim dont see why not as H can be smoked in a joint,so if you put some tobacco in a pipe and sprinkled on some H i guess you could smoke away although i would imagine it to be quite wastefull and anyway theres no real reason to go about it in this way.....
That's gross though! Have always found that H contraindicates MJ. I have often wondered if maybe MJ maybe slight opioid antagonist as it creates in most of SWIMs friends a cross-combination of withdrawal and white death. And this would be consistant MJ users who smoke joints like cigarettes.

RE mixing with tobacco alone, I wouldn't think that would be pleasant, I don't know about any other people on here, but I find cigarettes while using H cause hideous headaches and wild hiccups. Since I have stopped using H, my cigarette consumption has doubled.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:29
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

Are we talking only about crack pipes? Ive been asked by many about my opinion about 'liquid enhalers' better known as meth pipes. Anyone had any experiences with those? Is using a crack pipe nasty tasting? SWIM always has preferred chasing the dragon or even better, going fishing when sterile equipment is readily available.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:42
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

SWIM's favorite way of administration was vaporizing. SWIM used to smoke heroin in a crack pipe (or meth pipe with a stem and a glass bulb at the end with a hole). The key to preventing waste is to put in small amounts at a time and vaporize carefully so that it does not burn. Hold smoke in as long as possible deep in lungs before exhaling. Over time the timing becomes obvious (as long as the same dope is used). SWIM never really liked the foil method. Unless the dope is really good, you do not get the degree of a rush as from IV, but it's pretty good.
Every once in a while, SWIM would heat the sides and the stem to get any residual heroin that congealed in those places. SWIM however would not want to smoke the shoepolish-looking stuff people use these days without extracting first. That stuff could be really hard on lungs depending on what kind of tar was used as cut. SWIM only got powder heroin back when SWIM had a habit a really long time ago.
For the record, SWIM always enjoyed combining dope and mj...

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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

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SWIM's favorite way of administration was vaporizing. SWIM used to smoke heroin in a crack pipe (or meth pipe with a stem and a glass bulb at the end with a hole). The key to preventing waste is to put in small amounts at a time and vaporize carefully so that it does not burn. Hold smoke in as long as possible deep in lungs before exhaling.
SWIM agrees with this method 110% .Might SWIM add,keep moving the flame or rotating the pipe.The object is to vaporize not burn your goods.
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

From what SWIM has heard, the flame/pipe must be rotated so as not to burn the gear!!

So what's best a meth pipe or a crack pipe??
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Old 11-11-2008, 20:22
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Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

SWIM prefers the meth pipe.the ones with the round bulb at the end.
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:07
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Different ways to smoke heroin

Swim would like to know more ways can you smoke h.
such as a crack pipe mabye?
Swim doesn't think they have steady enough hands to chase the dragon.
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

smoking heroin in a joint, blunt, bong, bowl, crack pipe or anything that actually causes the heroin to combust (create smoke) would be wasting the heroin.

The most effecient ways of smoking heroin would be methods of vaporizing the heroin rather than actually smoking it through either a home-made lightbulb vaporizor, off tinfoil (chasin the dragon), or in an electrical tobacco/herb vaporizer (the kinds with brand names in headshops & on the net)....
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Old 05-03-2009, 18:47
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

Anyway other than using foil if smoking heroin is a waste of money and time in SWIMs experience. SWIY will get used to it eventually. If not snort it like SWIM did.
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

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Swim would like to know more ways can you smoke h.
such as a crack pipe mabye?
Swim doesn't think they have steady enough hands to chase the dragon.
A freebase pipe may be an effective way to smoke heroin which is safer (glass is chemically inert) and more cost effective than foil. Smoking heroin in a joint or cigarette is NOT advised as it is likely a complete waste of gear. Heroin needs to be heated without being exposed to direct flame or burning material. That said, if freebasing heroin was possible and good then SWIM thinks it would be common knowledge given all the crack users who also use smack. If SWIY tries, please report back to the forum.
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Anyway other than using foil if smoking heroin is a waste of money and time in SWIMs experience. SWIY will get used to it eventually. If not snort it like SWIM did.

Only snort it if it is snortable obviously... If you've got the brown don't bother (h3). It won't work.

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What sort of gear does SWIM have?

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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

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Only snort it if it is snortable obviously... If you've got the brown don't bother (h3). It won't work.

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What sort of gear does SWIM have?
Good advice. And if he has white, smoking that is probably a waste without adding a buffer like caffeine powder.
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Old 05-03-2009, 22:20
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

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Only snort it if it is snortable obviously... If you've got the brown don't bother (h3). It won't work.

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What sort of gear does SWIM have?
Swim is getting some this weekend. He isn't quite sure yet what type it is, he has to talk to the dealer.
Would freebasing heroin be as easy as freebasing cocaine?
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

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Swim is getting some this weekend. He isn't quite sure yet what type it is, he has to talk to the dealer.
Would freebasing heroin be as easy as freebasing cocaine?
In theory maybe but SWIM has never tried it. The only difference between foil and glass is the former conducts heat more readily but is less chemically inert (it could react with something in the H and this may be why on rare occasions people develop brain damage after smoking H; then again it could be by an adulterant that is only active when heated). I don't know if the glass conducts heat fast enough. It also might not dissipate the heat fast enough and hence remain hot too long and waste your stash, but since it works so well for crack-cocaine I imagine it would work for smokable forms of H. Meaning tar or brown (H3) but not heroin HCl (H4) which usually appears white but could be brown too.
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

Heroin needs to be heated not burnt so pipes just don't work well enough enough. Trust SWIM. Heroin number 3 is readily available in the UK and is snortable. Way swim used to do it
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

Does any swimmer have experience using a meth pipe?
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

as far as SWIM can tell the only ways to smoke heroin are on foil (the best way) or a joint which alot of indians in the UK do, though SWIY use alot of gear. forget bongs, pipes or any other contraption similar, they will not work.
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

I dont see what the problem is, strip of tin foil 7"x5" (roughly) smear H, toast softly, inhale... hows that too complicated for swim? its gonna be 10x harder to get a meth pipe

in Swim's opinion, bump it.. smoking it doest give you the quality of dips like a sniff
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

Hi peeps,
Swim posted some time ago why Chasing off foil gave much more efficient results than any other smoking type method, the main reason for this is temperature related. Heroin melts at around 173c the temperature then needs to be raised to ~200c before vaporization can begin, unfortunately at this temp ~200c) heroin starts to decompose or degrade, when pipes are used or heroin is smoked in cigarettes (ack-ack) the temperature goes much higher than this and results in some of the heroin getting burnt. By running and thinning out the liquid heroin on tin foil, it’s possible to get the heroin to vaporise using temperatures at or just slightly above 200c.
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AW: Different ways to smoke heroin

There is a "Chasing the Dragon Syndrom", please check Google,
i cant send a link!

It seems to be very Neurotoxic, so stay informed!
Please give this Information to Friends and swiny!

But Swim done it too, maybe to long, he. dont know yet
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Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

SWIM would much rather be able to use an Ice pipe b/c he already tends to smoke H & other substances w/ foil and it is becoming too much use of foil - which is hazardous. The pipe would obviously reduce these hazards.

So is the pipe worth it & is it possible to prevent it from exceeding certain high temperatures?

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