Side effects - A question about OxyContin

[proko7]

SWIM has used OC here and there for a year or two. It's usually pretty hard to come by, so SWIM usually gets some once every couple months or so. SWIM usually gets about four 80 mg pills (with the green coating) and insufflates them, at a rate of about one per day. SWIM occasionally has some mild, brief withdrawal symptoms after they are gone, but nothing too bad. If SWIM did the same thing with...say...eight of the same pills, how much withdrawal should SWIM expect? SWIM weighs about 185, takes clonazepam, Lexapro by prescription, and just recently got started on a script for trazodone (50 mg).

[weareone222]

could have some withdrawl... Trazadone helps with withdrawls from cocaine,achoal,and others sorry swim cant spell. But trazadone make you very very sleepy. Swim was on it for sleep... like swim said you could have some withdrawls. but swiy meds will help out with them.. swiy might have kinda like a flu symtems.. Remeber oxy and trazadone goi ng to make swiy very tired. Be carefull..
This is for educationaal purposes only....

[sickboy420]

Withdrawls very from person to person, as well as addiction. Physical withdrawls can be bad. But the mental stuff is way worse, depression, boredom. But there is no way of telling you what it will be like if you eat 80mg everday for 8 days. Swim would become extremely depressed and not able to function properly without more for at least a 5 days i would be jonesin hard and than pissed off another 4 days... Swims friend would just be slightly irratated for a day ..Oxycotin, is one of the cleanist opiates known to man, simply because its so close to your own endorphins chemical make-up...nectar of the gods. Anything that makes you feel this state of mind while on it, will kick your a$$ when you come down. If you ate em for 8 days in row you would probably feel pretty down for a while afterwards. I would be more worried about becoming addicted to them eating them 8 days in a row. The withdrawls can suck and they will only get worse the more you do... Use sparingly as oxy is as just about as strong as heroin. In fact many of SWIMS friends prefer it to H. Good luck..and enjoy them 80's

[fiveleggedrat]

We cannot predict how much of an addiction or withdrawal you will have. Only you could really figure that out. We only have general information and estimates.

[proko7]

Well, SWIM will go through 'em and then they won't be available for awhile...thankfully. SWIM has always managed to keep away from addiction because of their scarcity. What if SWIM saved one to taper with? Would that if help, supposing SWIM could even manage such a feat in the first place?

[sickboy420]

Weanin off may be helpful to you. SWIM and most his friends usually just got more strung out by doing so becuase you can nibble on one 80 for a lot longer, maybe not get as hi but hi the same, for a lot longer. All your doing is delaying the inevitable come down. SWIM says if your gona get hi get F$%^in hi. Just plan on feelin like shit for day, a few or whatever the case may be for you. Just my opinion, however weaning is helpful to many a folk. For example, SWIM would of had a hell of lot of a worse time stopping the use of H, if it wernt for weaning off with suboxone.
good times
sickboy

[fiveleggedrat]

After playing with opioids for a good amount of time, Swim has some advice:

NEVER use more than 2 days in a row. Preferably use no more often than every other day, and that's only for a few days max. Using back to back blows. Tolerance goes up and so does chance for addiction.

ALWAYS spread out usages. Swiy will enjoy it more, Swim promises.

[W!SE]

tapering works wonders for swim. he had been on about 45-90mg/a day for many months at home. during an overseas trip he was only able to take a limited supply strettttching them out..and when he had less left, he stretched them even more etc etc and by the last dose he had been taking hot baths and exercising regularly. Mind you the guy has a fear of withdrawals because of past Cold Turkey experiences and he vowed to NEVER go thru that again (fevers, muscle spasms, diarrhea)

Swims last time being oc free was in Amsterdam where he finished his stash upon arrival and made up his mind to use Amsterdam as a sober place...lol ironic huh.. but swims sober means weed, alcohol, nicotine.

so if swiYou does not want to feel like COMPLETE shit.. SAVE A PILL and snort the tiniest piece possible when it gets rough (something that would NEVER get swiyou high). Make sure it is done only in times of need and Not when bored! Remember, although there are many many opiate wd remedies on this forum filled with substances to help swimmers, Opiates are the only thing that will truly help with the discomfort (yet they will prolong it if not used to ease instead get high again). Knowing that, swiWiSE would never enter that battle unarmed.

swim on

[proko7]

SWIM appreciates all the input. And now a couple other questions. SWIM recently started taking 50mg of trazodone each night, by prescription, (and, as mentioned above, is on 30mg Lexapro and 2mg clonazepam-one in the morning, one at night). SWIM knows that benzos and OC can cause respiratory failure-what about the trazodone? Does that pose any danger, as far as contraindications go? Before SWIM ever knew the dangers of mixing OCs and benzos, SWIM did plenty of both, and somehow is still alive. Sometimes when using OCs, SWIM will just take a half mg of clonazepam at bedtime. But SWIM has been on the 2mg/day dose for many years...is the precaution there necessary? Suppose SWIM has had about 60mg of OC over the last 5 hours. Would 1mg clonazepam and 50mg trazodone be bad with that, or since SWIM's benzo tolerance is so high would that be okay? In theory?

[W!SE]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

We cannot predict how much of an addiction or withdrawal you will have. Only you could really figure that out. We only have general information and estimates.

pretty much the same applies here.. bla

[proko7]

Originally Posted by W!SE

pretty much the same applies here.. bla

Yeah, SWIM kinda figured. SWIM will be careful.

[y0ssarianlives]

"SWIM appreciates all the input. And now a couple other questions. SWIM recently started taking 50mg of trazodone each night, by prescription, (and, as mentioned above, is on 30mg Lexapro and 2mg clonazepam-one in the morning, one at night). SWIM knows that benzos and OC can cause respiratory failure-what about the trazodone? Does that pose any danger, as far as contraindications go? Before SWIM ever knew the dangers of mixing OCs and benzos, SWIM did plenty of both, and somehow is still alive. Sometimes when using OCs, SWIM will just take a half mg of clonazepam at bedtime. But SWIM has been on the 2mg/day dose for many years...is the precaution there necessary? Suppose SWIM has had about 60mg of OC over the last 5 hours. Would 1mg clonazepam and 50mg trazodone be bad with that, or since SWIM's benzo tolerance is so high would that be okay? In theory"

Trazadone is a relatively benign substance; however, when someone overdoses on trazadone, respiratory depression and hypotension (low blood pressure) can occur. But in the doses SWIY is taking it at, SWIY shouldn't really have to worry about it.

But, drug interactions are unpredictable, and just a slight nudge of an additional chemical or too high a dose of one of the combined chemicals can result in disaster.

Mixing benzos and opioids is really the most risky part of the equation here; SWIM recommends SWIY to cut the dose in half with all involved substances and slowly work SWIY's way up. Ya never know. SWIY can always take more, but never less.

[proko7]

Now SWIM's dog has a question. He likes to drink. And snorting oxy. He wonders, if he snorts 40mg oxy, how long should he wait before he drinks? When he was a younger pup, he didn't know the dangers of mixing oxy and alocohol, and did it all the time. Now he is older, aware of dangers. When can that drunkard of a doggy start drinking, in SWIY's opinions?

[W!SE]

swims dog should simply try to pay attention to how he's feeling (physically) and just be cautious. swim agrees that the combo CAN be lethal and again, only swiy should know the exact amount he can handle. Swim finds that when he has plenty of oxycodone in his system (daily) and he is out somewhere downtown (nightly), he usually takes things slow..meaning, he drinks one beer at a time normally and never by chugging it. always trying to move/dance etc. constantly (sweating) so the alcohol doesnt absorb so much. swim is also routinely making trips to the bathroom (Unless in vip where no one cares) to up his dosage. swim has never had any REAL close calls off of just alcohol and oxycodone yet he has felt very nauseous/cold sweat etc.. swim finds oxys, alcohol, and XANAX to be the worst in terms of life threatening. swim prefers oxy + adderal + alcohol(only a little)....at the most he will end up wit about 4-5 beers in his system and that is GONE for swim on some blues* (oxycodone 30mg no time release). Again this def wouldn't apply to you as swim's alcohol tolerance is way below average. He finds that whenever he steps foot OUT of the club/bar is usually when the adrenaline diminishes and the effects take over competely, leading to swim throwing up in his front lawn when he gets home. so if in a bar or a place of loud music with girls etc. remember swiy will have to face whatever he did when he gets out of there so BE EASY!...

W!SE added 7 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...

if that didn't answer swiyour question..let swim just say that there is no perfectly safe route...at the same time swiy could probably get away with it drinking while he snorts the drug. he shouldn't worry so much about it as he will be fine providing he is responsible and doesn't neglect the state he is in.

swim on

[ThusSpokeZarathustra]

Is 8 days of consecutive use even long enough to start having physiological withdrawal symptoms? Swim enjoys opiates, and also has a very scare supply, and relies on scoring at random, basically. Therefore SWIM has never experienced physiological withdrawals, but is familiar with the psychological burden, and from the sounds of things, the mental stuff is way easier to deal with than the physical illness (based on many anecdotal reports of swim's friends).

However, it is a good rule of thumb to not binge over 2 days in a row, and even better; wait a day in between. This may be hard to cognitively process at first (swim knows first hand how it feels to have the stuff, and what it's like to wait to use it), but just think, swy'll have more dope for other days, therefore longer general period of time to spontaneously indulge (swim has always found unpremeditated opiate experiences to be more fun), you won't have as intense psychological cravings, and virtually no physiological withdrawals or needs!!!

It's really not that hard. Swiy just needs some will power.

[sickboy420]

I completely disagree, the mental stuff is way more difficult to deal with than the physical stuff, physical withdrawls will go away long before the mental stuff does. Being strung out sucks!! , is like a horrible depression, like having completly lost interest in life, and everything feeling way wrong; extreme boredom, life becomes so bland you dont want to be in it anymore and you feel like everything is hopeless.and it will never get better...even know it does(but not everyone gets this bad)..... and in your case where swim isnt using that often anyways, he shouldnt have to worry about that stuff.

sickboy420 added 19 Minutes and 0 Seconds later...

Nosce Ipsum---know thyself... good advice wise...you have to pay attention to your own body(if you dont feel well you probably aren't, If your heart beat is racing, or feeling like its beating irregularly or painfully its probably not good) Your body will tell you if you are alright, you just have to listen....because only swim knows what can swim can handle...take it slow...and Swim should always have a friend around when partying hard like this...that way at least swims friend can make sure he stays awake, doesn't sleep on his back.... or if worse comes to worse. take him to a hospital......

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