Poppies Vs. Kratom
This is something Swim
has been wondering about for a while now, and he does not have the funds to openly experiment and find out on his on.
GENERALLY speaking, which is more cost effective? As in, which will be cheaper for a dose/cheaper for long term use? Swim personally is opiate
free usually, so he has low tolerance, but the question extends beyond just him.
THIS IS NOT A PRICE DISCUSSION, only about relativity. As in, "A is about half as cheap as B to use."
Also, which do Swiy gives a better experience overall? As in, does one have potential for greater euphoria
or similar? Which has a higher ceiling of effects? Which do you personally prefer?
Poppies means poppy
pod tea/"flake" cooked, not raw, actual poppies. Kratom
means either kratom leaf, extract, powder, etc.
Swim has consumed both poppy tea and kratom, but is very small amounts. Not nearly enough to judge the substances overall.
Swim is personally looking for a euphoric, clean, sedating high. Swim does want to reach a level of nodding, as well. Is nodding possible with kratom? Swim knows it is with poppy tea, since its full of codeine
Any comments/info is appreciated. Swim did search and found nothing. Swim did not want to peruse every single kratom and poppy thread and try to make a guess which is the answer to his questions.
Swim relies on having an opioid
, but lacks the funds to play the "doctor/script" game. Swim was relying on tramadol
, but it recently ran out. It also stopped working, for an unknown reason, unrelated to tolerance. Swim also will never turn to relying on a dealer for anything, so no heroin
. Swim is not a needle user. Swim does have rather extensive opioid usage, though. Swim is looking for something relatively easy to obtain with effects hopefully close to hydrocodone
/hydromorphone, at least. Heroin is not even common in Swim's area either, and Swim has no connects/does not want any. Swim knows both poppies and kratom are internet material, and Swim will only rely on the internet for steady supplies of opioids
If it will help, here are Swim's dosages for a good spot with zero physical tolerance, oral except where noted:
Delete/move as seen fit. Thanks kindly.