Dose - First time smoking H

[Nacho]

SWIM heard about a danger with smoking heroin. Would there be any danger with it being smoked only one time?

Is a small dose of it (no tolerance) really 5mg? The smallest amount you can get here I guess is 0.5 gram. That's like 100 hits for *amount of money omitted*. There must be a mistake somewhere?


Weed is so much easier of a drug to try



Edit: The bad rep point is a little harsh for that shit. Just post in here and I'll edit it instead of being a douche and givin me a bad mark. I didn't know that was against the rules (yes, I read them). I thought asking what prices are was the bad thing. I just stated that to show my confusion with the dosage. Thanks a lot

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[bloot]

There is really no way for SWIus to tell SWIY how much of SWIYour shit SWIY should smoke.. We have no clue of it's potency and what tolerance SWIY has.. SWIM wouldn't suggest smoking H unless one has some bit of a tolerance and has some bit of experience with opioids.. SWIM would suggest snorting some tar to start off.

[Nacho]

^SWIM has no tolerance. SWIM's only experience with an opiate was 15mg of morphine which was a while ago. He/she wants to try it because besides speed and lsd, it's the only thing you can get ahold of in his/her's area.

SWIM isn't asking for a set-in-stone dose because that's impossible with anything, but, is 5mg an average first-time dose?

[belllllaaax]

SWIM only has experience in snorting & banging
..when h is smoked can it just be in powder form?

[infekt]

It would have to be freebased in powder form, swim believes.

[sunofnothing]

SWIM is only familiar with powder form as this is all that is available in his area.

I'm assuming the amount you're talking about is half a gram, Nacho?

If swiy is gonna be chasing it then that's too much for the first time - a fifth of that (i.e 0.1g) would be enough (well, it is for most people). Actually, SWIM's first time needed much less than that, and he was pretty much wasted from less than half of a 0.1g bag.

The thing about buying half a gram is that swiy will be very tempted to finish the rest of it, and because swiy isn't used to it this amount could last a few days - in this sense it won't be 'just the one time'. But I'd say 0.1g is the avergae first time dose (at least it is in swim's experience).

Anyway that sucks pretty badly that all that is available in swiy's area is speed, acid and smack. Even in darkest Scotland there is a better selection! Anyway sorry if I've got the amounts wrong here, just trying to be helpful

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Thanks for helping out.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by sunofnothing

SWIM is only familiar with powder form as this is all that is available in his area.

I'm assuming the amount you're talking about is half a gram, Nacho?

If swiy is gonna be chasing it then that's too much for the first time - a fifth of that (i.e 0.1g) would be enough (well, it is for most people). Actually, SWIM's first time needed much less than that, and he was pretty much wasted from less than half of a 0.1g bag.

The thing about buying half a gram is that swiy will be very tempted to finish the rest of it, and because swiy isn't used to it this amount could last a few days - in this sense it won't be 'just the one time'. But I'd say 0.1g is the avergae first time dose (at least it is in swim's experience).

Anyway that sucks pretty badly that all that is available in swiy's area is speed, acid and smack. Even in darkest Scotland there is a better selection! Anyway sorry if I've got the amounts wrong here, just trying to be helpful

A half a gram is the smallest amount SWIM has heard he/she can buy in his area. SWIM definitely wouldn't take all that at once. SWIM heard that 5mg is a good dose for a first-timer with no tolerance but that would leave a LOT left over.

SWIM was also considering snorting. Smoking is just more comfortable for SWIM so that sounded better.

[mickey_bee]

just play it by ear, take it slow.

To be honest, I'd be well impressed if swiy managed to top swiyself smoking gear. As sunofnowt said, bout 0.05g's will prolly sort swiy right out. but essentially just smoke till swiy's high!

[mickey_bee]

you cud do a half gram over the course of a few days and be alright, provided you've no prior opiate addictions.
failing that, take out how much you think you'll need, like a 0.1g for example, then pass on the rest to some needy types.

Careful though, when i started, 0.05g would sort me out for a whole night, a mere 6 months later and i was doing 0.3-0.4g everyday.....and not really even getting high.

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Thanks for the help.

[chillinwill]

0.05 would be 5mg right? from what my birdie told me, unless SWIY had 100% pure heroin that wouldn't be enough if smoked....since the H is more than likely cut with other things as well, the most common dosage would be 15-25mg for the non tolerant opiate person....remember to start off slowly as SWIY can always smoke more to reach the desired effect

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by chillinwill

0.05 would be 5mg right? from what my birdie told me, unless SWIY had 100% pure heroin that wouldn't be enough if smoked....since the H is more than likely cut with other things as well, the most common dosage would be 15-25mg for the non tolerant opiate person....remember to start off slowly as SWIY can always smoke more to reach the desired effect

.005 is 5mg

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That's why I'm so confused.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by Nacho

.005 is 5mg

Chart:



That's why I'm so confused.

your exactly right that 0.005 is 5mg....i always get decimals and stuff confused....From what a bird told me, anywhere between 15-30mg will be good for a first time

[jon-q]

Guys your confusing swim-q never mind swiy nacho!!

Know your weights:

sixteenth of an ounce=1.7 grams. 1700mg
1 gram= 1000mg..
avg size 1 bag=170mg (.17)this can range from 130mg-200mg.
1 bag=15 lines(line=molten heroin run from one side of foil to the other,foil size 6 inches sq)
If swiy has no tolerance to heroin smoking 2-4 lines should be more than enough to induce "NOD".
TIP: smoke one line and wait 2-3 minuites keep repeating this smoke/wait technique. smoking heroin this way will allow swiy to judge and understand heroin's effects.
Is swiy sure that he has the correct type of heroin for smoking??

Please be carefull-heroin can easily kill you...

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[Nacho]

^SWIM thanks you for the tips.

SWIM hasn't gotten the heroin yet but is waiting til he has enough information on it before wasting money.

SWIM will have his/her best friend with him/her to make sure he/she's okay.

[mickey_bee]

you guys are dense. lol.

0.1g is 100mg or, an average £10 bag of gear here in the uk.
0.05g is half that, 50mg.

start with that, but to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much you put on the foil, just take a few hits, leave it for a bit, and see how you feel.
You're not gonna keel over.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by mickey_bee

you guys are dense. lol.

0.1g is 100mg or, an average __ bag of gear here in the uk.
0.05g is half that, 50mg.

start with that, but to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much you put on the foil, just take a few hits, leave it for a bit, and see how you feel.
You're not gonna keel over.

For future reference, don't put prices in posts. When you become a silver member you'll be able to edit your posts. I think you need 20 posts on the forum and have a good rep point.



Thanks for all the help, swimmers

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by mickey_bee

you guys are dense. lol.

0.1g is 100mg or, an average bag of gear here in the uk.
0.05g is half that, 50mg.

start with that, but to be honest, it really doesn't matter how much you put on the foil, just take a few hits, leave it for a bit, and see how you feel.
You're not gonna keel over.

Poeople in glass houses shouldn't throw stones..

price discusion is not allowed!!

100mg is not the average bag size in the uk-very poor bag 100mg-v good bag 200mg.
putting more than 300mg on to foil makes it very difficult to control,also the heat required to run this amount could eaisly degrade the heroin.

Although overdose due to smoking heroin is rare,it is a real possibility especialy when attempted for the first time.

[mickey_bee]

Originally Posted by jon-q

Poeople in glass houses shouldn't throw stones..

price discusion is not allowed!!

100mg is not the average bag size in the uk-very poor bag 100mg-v good bag 200mg.
putting more than 300mg on to foil makes it very difficult to control,also the heat required to run this amount could eaisly degrade the heroin.

Although overdose due to smoking heroin is rare,it is a real possibility especialy when attempted for the first time.

sorry, i didn't really realise that it was a price discussion, i'm just so used to referring to a bag of gear as a 10 bag.

yeah 100mg isn't great, but it all depends where you come from, and what the stuff's like. and what deals are going round. 3 for 2 offers etc.

chill people.

[jon-q]

No harm done,and swim wasnt trying to bite your head off!
Yes swiy is right it does deppend on srength/purity e.t.c,
chilled....
p.s dont forget self incrimination.....

[SexMonkey]

no no no dont do it, dont ruin ur life like swim did, it only takes one time,

[txslammin]

thank you stacie,, swim wants to try for the first time but swim has a hard time finding it in killeen tx,,,, also swim is well into a habit for injecting morphine,,, the only reason swim wants to switch to H is to keep the pain away,,,, since morphine no longer an option.

txslammin added 2 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

hello nacho

[SexMonkey]

please quit, you can do it, swim never thought she could, it took many attempts, many many many, but she didnt give up, she couldnt put her family through it anymore, and she had been doing it for years and years, she wanted to be the person they remembered, and it took a long time to get there trust back but 2 years later life has never been better!

Imagine life gong back to like when u were a kid, when u didnt have to rely on any substance, when life was exciting because it just was!

It can be like that again, get a goal, do something u have always wanted to do, be who u have always wanted to be! You can do it, swim did it, and its hard and there are bad days terrible weeks, on and off, even now, but thats life, but slowly things get better, dont think u will have to spend ur life abstaining from everything, swim dabbles now and again (not often and not the hard stuff) she drink, she go out she have a good time, she also stays in for a cosy night on the sofa and its good in and dont have the paranoia the worry that she killing herself, but has goals, and wishes and asperations because its never toolate

Swim has to be careful cos very addictive personality! so its not often, and exercise helps so much in recovery, making urself do things u dont want to do, helps, decorate the house, do a marathon, its the high after,

I hope you dont think this all sounds crap, swim knows what its like thats all, and she knows it could be so much better.

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[Nacho]

Originally Posted by txslammin

thank you stacie,, swim wants to try for the first time but swim has a hard time finding it in killeen tx,,,, also swim is well into a habit for injecting morphine,,, the only reason swim wants to switch to H is to keep the pain away,,,, since morphine no longer an option.

txslammin added 2 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...

hello nacho

Hello. You probably shouldn't give out information like that (the location) as it almost sounds like you're looking for a hookup which is DEFINITELY against the rules. It's sad to hear that you are in a "habit" of injecting morphine.

SWIM isn't worried about getting addicted. SWIM has never been addicted to anything... not even the nicotine that's in a nice cigar (SWIM inhales cigars to get that nice nicotine rush. SWIM only inhales about every third puff as to not try and kill his/her lungs right away and doesn't smoke often at all). SWIM will also make sure that his/her friends are willing to help him out if he/she does show any signs of addiction.

The only real trouble for SWIM is knowing if it's smoking heroin or not. Thank you for the warnings though. They are appreciated.

[ozzy_paul]

Originally Posted by Nacho

SWIM heard about a danger with smoking heroin. Would there be any danger with it being smoked only one time?

Is a small dose of it (no tolerance) really 5mg? The smallest amount you can get here I guess is 0.5 gram. That's like 100 hits for *amount of money omitted*. There must be a mistake somewhere?


Weed is so much easier of a drug to try



Edit: The bad rep point is a little harsh for that shit. Just post in here and I'll edit it instead of being a douche and givin me a bad mark. I didn't know that was against the rules (yes, I read them). I thought asking what prices are was the bad thing. I just stated that to show my confusion with the dosage. Thanks a lot

Swim would recommend 0.2- 0.3grams of H if its your first time. If you do by the 0.5g you might want to have half 1 weekend and the other half next weekend.
Also there shouldn`t be any problems smoking it just the 1 time. (as long as you do it in moderation) not over kill it.
Cheers

[txslammin]

swim is not addicted just really has grown acustom to using for pain