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Old 16-09-2008, 18:12
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Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Achievements qualities:

1. Meth will be melted and 'running well' back and forth along al foil till end.
2. no 'barbeque smell cause overheating, a clean meth will just be slightly yellow/brown till end
3. all vapor go through the straw
4. consistent, point#1 - #3 will achive 100x in 100x smoking, say 99-one for human error appreciation.

It's not hard, will be very easy if SwiYou ever did it. Just 3 big point to concern, in first trial SwiY will know that. It's not a new way, he just translated every 'smoking quality' he has ever achieved (of sure this ever happen to all smokerWIY) to human words.

Materials needed;
-a bong, with two straws - one of these tip is joined by a metal/glass pipe , avoiding overheating to this straw, call it 'NOZZLE', could be made from al foil.
-a burner, best choice; made from Ethanol in plastic/glass bottle, a piece of tissue or cotton wrapped and covered by al foil. Something like this cotton is in a metal pipe, al foil as the pipe. When burned, the pipe will be hot-alcohol turn to gas, the flame will be blue (alcohol perfectly burned)
and stable. Diameter; 1,5 mm to 2,0 mm. Flame size just as a drop of water.
-ambience, best; a room with no wind, bright.
-al foil. Best choice; Don't use heavy duty one, use regular al foil, but avoid a very thin al foil. Cut to 1,8 - 2 cm wide x 20 cm length. All side (shiny and foggy side) of foil can be used, and both will be used.
-a name card that made from paper, a plastic one can't be used.


Smoking time;
1. Make al foil become smooth; fold this name card, put al foil inside and rub it till smooth. Press name card by fingers lightly at first and give more pressure for the next.
2. U shape formed along this foil, SwiY can use fingers to bend the left and right tips, and heat it on the burner flame. Best; use a smooth stainless still/glass pipe 1 cm diameter, 25 cm length, carefully put foil on it, press the foil tips (just the tips) by finger, heat.
3. Important point #1; Heat this foil PROPERLY before, flame point touch the foil, just like when smoking..., move SLOWLY so the flame will heat along this foil, do 2x or more. ONCE AGAIN; DO IT PROPERLY!
4. put crystal on this al foil, 2,5 cm from tip. Best; around 10 mg at once. Slightly heat it 2 cm above the flame to slightly melted, just to avoid this goodies throw out cause sneezing,....
5. Important point #2; The Position, hold al foil tip by left hand, angle - 30 degree (foil length to horizontal line), SLIGHTLY above the flame point. Flame is around 2 cm from right tip of this foil. So crystal is 0,5 cm left from flame tip. Nozzle is slightly above al foil, around 0,5 cm right from crystal = around above al foil point that almost touch by flame point. After few second this crystal will be melted, time to inhale. Crystal will run away from heat, move SwiY left hand ONLY, slowly, to keep a constant distance between the melted meth and flame. Right hand is STATIC = bong is static = head is static. No one can do 2 or more things at once as good as 1 thing at once. Especially a male.
5. Imp point #3; FOCUS, SwiY main focus is to the DISTANCE between goodies and flame. Not to melted meth nor to the flame. THE DISTANCE. Brain/mind will work/go to achieve whatever aim is given, the aim is not a worry of over heating! Rather funny? Trust him, This will 100% prove from 1st trying.
6. If meth has been near from left hand, turn the foil, take this other side by left hand. So, the position is always the same.

Other tricks;
1. when foil has been dirty, the other side can be used.
2. melted meth will run away from heat, so swiY can regulate where the residue will be placed, when melted meth is almost end, play football; meth=ball and flame point=foot, kick the residue out from meth's way.
3. How to manage SwiY breath, to inhale this pleasant vapor as long possible, say 2x back and forth without exhaling. Simple; DON'T THINK! He mean, do not think about ho to manage breathing at all. Sub concious mind has been manage human breathing since borne, when sleep, and learn how to manage since born. Any interuption by concious will screw up, especially if create fear, panic,etc, human body will need much more oxygen. And SwiHS become too serious!
4. rub that name card to a clean cloth, every time will be used to rub the al foil
5. if a stronger odor is needed, add 1/2 to 1 drop Ethanol (don't use other alcohol like IPA, Methanol, rubbing alcohol, denatured al) to water in the bong. The best meth vapor /smell will be gotten if it crystallized in alcohol solution, Ethanol and Methanol give the big contribution, IPA neutral (that's why denatured al is a good choice for re-x) . But sometimes street Meth just crystallized in water-this trick can do for that. Will give a synergy smell of vapour, meth vapor isn't only can be smelled but can be tasted.
6. purifying. Unvaporable Meth impurities will left on the foil/glass and water will help to remove the remain. Danger come from the vaporable impurities, luckily just need one, single solvent to remove it: ACETONE. Pseudo/ephedrine impurity can't remove by tone, but it's not as dangerous, a decongestant.
Purifying procedure (for condensed meth in the nozzle and straw or to new street meth);
- ground to powder, place in a heat resistant glass, put in freezer
- add ice cool tone (99% tone, easy to obtained, hardware store, dry tone is preferable)
- stir well, better if the glass is maintenance in water + ice cube.
- freeze 1 hour
- carefully discard the tone, let sit to room temp
Now swiY goodies is much more clean, this the simple recrystallizing;
- add 100 ml tone / 1 g of Meth, heat to boil with continuous stirring till all is completely dissolved. He forget how much tone exactly, swiy can start from 50 ml then add more tone if needed. As a heat source, swiY can use a hot plate or hot water in a bowl. Careful tone boiling point is under 50 c.
- let sit to room temp
- freeze over night, longer better
- filter, dry


His English isn't good, so if there's something SwiY don't understand please ask him. Hope SwiY would tell him the result after try.

Good Luck!

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Last edited by headstrong; 27-09-2008 at 18:20. Reason: add other tips.
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Old 17-09-2008, 20:22
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Huh? Blow your own pipes swiy, meth is alot better when used in a oil burner, the thick ones that don't break when they're dropped....God those have saved SWIM so many times from humiliation and questioning when he's dropped the pizzo from sleep deprevation clumsies.....

Plus when SWIY is done smoking a few hits and there's more in the pipe, just let it crack back and pocket it, swiy is ready to go again in two hours...Swiy just cant get that with foil because it heats up the dope waaaay too fast, swiy can't sit and tweak on rolling that bowl and knowing its there waiting to be smoked later.

Foil gets swiy a nice big puff
Pipes get swiy the magic clouds that leave swim under a spell....Plus with foil there's no resin, so swiy can't just scrape the bowl and get more hits.

Swim ONLY uses foil to melt all the dope together into 1 big-ass shard....as to avoid carpet patrol .......Yes it melts the cut in with it, but when swiy's high as a bat, it doesn't matter what it is, if it's white and shiney its smokable, and knowing its all one big-ass chunk, there's zero reason why it'd be on the floor.
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Old 17-09-2008, 23:54
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

smoking meth from tinfoil.....YUCK,and what a waste!!!!

Use a clear lightbulb!!!

or as smokingbowls said buy an 'oilburner'!!!!
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Old 19-09-2008, 16:03
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Yes he agree; as usually "thin al foil" = waste, and other lacks. So in this thread SwiHS tried to share ; how to use foil without wasting, just trace will lose,....How to get the advantages, without getting the lacks. May be never mind with the foil? let's improve the technique.

Oil burner, isn't familiar in his place. Would swiY tell him what it's?

Meth is a stable substance, tough, can stand in 125 c for couple hours without decomposed. But, Meth can be EASYLY decomposed in around the melting point (around 180 c) for seconds. MELTING POINT isn't mean the safe point from decomposition. The best way to get a high quality Meth vapour is; minimalize the heating time. Avoid re 'condense-heat', as possible. PURE METH will left a RESIDUE if over heating or prolonged heating in the melting point, with unpleasant vapour.

Another advantage using foil; all vapour is inhaled soon, PLEASANT VAPOUR till end. If doing right. Swiy will pleasant...
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Old 27-09-2008, 17:54
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

After read SwiC and SwiS reply, he realize that the problem of smoking meth via al foil is the same in everywhere, the technique. For a period of time he thought al foil is wasteful, till fortunately he found the right tech for that. And by right tech, "foil" will give (much) more advantages then 'glass bowl/pipe' by "regular tech".
He don't wanna say 'foil' more than 'glass', he sure if the right tech of 'glass bowl/pipe' is found, the story will change...that's all swimsters want: PROGRESSIVE.

He try to post the 'foil right tech' advantages:
1. no need to wash the foil, just change it by another clean one. Glass must be washed, and sometimes it isn't easy to wash sticky residue.
2. faster
3. more effective, trace is out, using glass trace is out as well but heat-condensed-reheat-...make some of meth destroyed/decomposed by heat.
4. lower impurities, why must add more of decomposed meth as an impurity to the lungs?
5. And his favorite reason, pleasant smell of vapor (threads #4). Swiy has chosen a great restaurant, the best one from the menu, the most expensive, it's not fun if one put a burning plastic in, then take it, isn't it? Meth is one of the CLEANEST DRUGS, MOST POTENT STIMULANT, MOST EXPENSIVE, MOST PLEASANT VAPOR, why....? He think it's ok if he post a simple trick to recycle condensed meth, although it isn't chem forum. That every able to do, and can use as a way to purify street Meth, in thread #1, Other Tricks #6 above.
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Old 15-10-2008, 18:52
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

I like how your guy's biggest argument against this method is its wasteful... I think I might have a better reason to avoid it. It will fuck you up.

Alzheimers disease: Anyone heard of this? Its kinda bad. Basically what it does is slowly deteriorate your brian. Dementia sets in. You cant even remember your kids. Hell you cant remember yourself. Studies have proven people with Alzheiners has a heightened concentration of Aluminum in their system. So it goes without saying that smoking aluminum foil will put it in your system. And dont believe the bullshit about the residue burning off or aluminum foil wont evaporate at low of temps. Well lucky for you it doesnt have to evaporate to fuck you up. Little flakes burn off and when you are inhaling, you cause them to shoot straight into your lungs. Do you like to breath? You already cant think cause of alzheimers you might as not not be able to breath to.

Dont be stupid. Of course its dangerous. Smoke out of a glass pipe and enjoy a few more years.
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Old 15-10-2008, 21:12
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

i think alzheimers is the least of a meth addicts problems/worrys!!!

1st and foremost would be wheres my next hit....2nd maybe how do i stop these crazy,crazy thoughts from weeks of no sleep(psychosis)....3rdly wheres my next hit!!!!

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Old 16-10-2008, 09:54
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

True... why worry about that when you are just going to die anyways. Either way its poison. Its people like that that made meth what it is today. I work a very professional job, I get to work on time everyday, I have money in the bank at the end of the week, and guess what, I still manage to find time to pick up the pipe. Its not that hard to moderate. Maybe if these people learned about moderation THEN They could worry about the dimensia lol
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Old 16-10-2008, 17:42
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

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I like how your guy's biggest argument against this method is its wasteful... I think I might have a better reason to avoid it. It will fuck you up.

Alzheimers disease: Anyone heard of this? Its kinda bad. Basically what it does is slowly deteriorate your brian. Dementia sets in. You cant even remember your kids. Hell you cant remember yourself. Studies have proven people with Alzheiners has a heightened concentration of Aluminum in their system. So it goes without saying that smoking aluminum foil will put it in your system. And dont believe the bullshit about the residue burning off or aluminum foil wont evaporate at low of temps. Well lucky for you it doesnt have to evaporate to fuck you up. Little flakes burn off and when you are inhaling, you cause them to shoot straight into your lungs. Do you like to breath? You already cant think cause of alzheimers you might as not not be able to breath to.

Dont be stupid. Of course its dangerous. Smoke out of a glass pipe and enjoy a few more years.
That's SwiHS waiting for, a good argument!
His question; how many degree c aluminum will evap? If in a low temp it will evap (under 250 c) , so the people must get alzheimers disease from food that covered by foil, steak, bread,....Large al foil, daily used.
Moreover by using this tech, the meth and foil are moved, 'running well', and alcohol burner is used instead of a pencil torch (butane gas, focus flame), that will avoid foil overheating.
For health issue, he has posted; don't add decomposed meth (cause re condensed-heating) to the lungs.
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Old 16-10-2008, 18:12
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Do you actually believe a fiend will think of his health and use the correct tools everytime? SWIM know a lot of people, and if SWIY is deep into the world you do to, that will forgo common sense and go for the easiest route of administration. Usually its that handy torch lighter they bought for $5.99 at WalMart that is great for burning meth, inside a glass vile. Your argument about the food wrapped in AL foil makes sense, well it would if it werent illogical. Food being wrapped up in foil is NOWHERE near as hot as a direct flame from a torch light.

And also how do you figure with this method the AL and meth are removed? He says in the instructions to place directly on the foil. Unless I missed something, they are not seperate. This method is also especially awesome because all the rolling around of the meth picks up all the loose flakes of AL and when you breathe in the smoke, you get a special guest. Now thats a harsh toke if I have ever seen one. I seem to remember this one from science class to. If you apply a flame to something and you continuously hold it there, especially a metal, the object will increase in heat and keep increasing despite the fact the flame remains the same. So I want you to try something. Go out and get a nice steak sandwich from your local restaurant, freshly cooked, and touch it. I bet its bearable. It might not even be uncomfortable. Then take that same foil and set it over a lighter for 30 seconds and get a grip. After that, tell me its the same thing

TommyRowe added 5 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

But when it comes down to it, we can argue all day long about the health risks involved with smoking meth with AL foil. However, the fact is we are arguing about the healthiest way to smoke METH. Maybe we should address that concern for people first and then they wont even have to worry either way. I cant preach to people because SWIM smokes meth but SWIM recognizes how bad it is and does it in moderation. SWIM recommends that if you have to smoke meth, do it the "safest" way... a good old fashioned glass pipe

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Old 16-10-2008, 23:03
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

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Do you actually believe a fiend will think of his health and use the correct tools everytime? SWIM know a lot of people, and if SWIY is deep into the world you do to, that will forgo common sense and go for the easiest route of administration. Usually its that handy torch lighter they bought for $5.99 at WalMart that is great for burning meth, inside a glass vile. Your argument about the food wrapped in AL foil makes sense, well it would if it werent illogical. Food being wrapped up in foil is NOWHERE near as hot as a direct flame from a torch light.
What he talking about is BEST ROUTE, easy and health are 2 elements. Every route has a different suitable tool, for al foil a Butana torch lighter is avoiding, as he mention above.
Yes, most of them are not as hot as foil directly contact by flame, except for food that wrapped and directly contact by flame or baked, he mean the food that wrapped/put on al foil and cooked, not just WARMED after cooked. And imagine about the BREAD swiY eat daily, they are baked in an oven 100 - 300 c, for SEVERAL MINUTES, guess those breads placed on WHAT in the oven? ALUMINUM!
These food cooked for SEVERAL MINUTES, 30, 60,... minutes, with a LARGE surface area that contact with ALUMINUM. Meth via Al foil, contact for seconds. They (meth & al foil) are moved, he mean they are not static, the wrong tech make meth melted and not able to move/flow/running well along the al foil. And that's not this tech.
People that get that brain disease, he don't know from where they toke Al, but he believe 99,9.. % of them toke it from food.
What SwiY thinks, are they toke it from meth al foil route, come on....

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And also how do you figure with this method the AL and meth are removed? He says in the instructions to place directly on the foil. Unless I missed something, they are not seperate. This method is also especially awesome because all the rolling around of the meth picks up all the loose flakes of AL and when you breathe in the smoke, you get a special guest. Now thats a harsh toke if I have ever seen one.
Yes, meth is placed directly on the foil, flame tip 1-2 mm under foil. And he never say that al 100 % won't evap or create flakes,..., he jist wanna put it on the right proportion, HOW MUCH? Say most of those food cooked by a lower temp then meth al foil. Compare to food, daily eat, large surface area, cooked several minutes?

Quote:
I seem to remember this one from science class to. If you apply a flame to something and you continuously hold it there, especially a metal, the object will increase in heat and keep increasing despite the fact the flame remains the same. So I want you to try something. Go out and get a nice steak sandwich from your local restaurant, freshly cooked, and touch it. I bet its bearable. It might not even be uncomfortable. Then take that same foil and set it over a lighter for 30 seconds and get a grip. After that, tell me its the same thing
Yes, al will increase in heat, depend on how much energy is given, it's mean how many c heat source temp, distance between object - heat source, and HOW MANY SECONDS. And sure it will be happened to meth and FOOD as well.
Take a foil and set it over a lighter for 30 seconds and get a grip?? Come on, 30 seconds..., are SwiY kidding, a smoker don't wanna cook ALUMINUM FOIL....


Quote:
But when it comes down to it, we can argue all day long about the health risks involved with smoking meth with AL foil. However, the fact is we are arguing about the healthiest way to smoke METH. Maybe we should address that concern for people first and then they wont even have to worry either way. I cant preach to people because SWIM smokes meth but SWIM recognizes how bad it is and does it in moderation. SWIM recommends that if you have to smoke meth, do it the "safest" way... a good old fashioned glass pipe
Not sure it's a healthiest way, how about decomposed meth? SwiY doesn't commends about it yet.
Once again he talk about the best route that has some elements, and yes the most important element is healthy. So for the most important element, wise if a RIGHT PRIORITY is given, certain amount of aluminum in human body can cause Alzheimers disease, yes, same like MSG can cause cancer, NaCl hypertension,......, meth cause....., ALL IS TOXIC DEPEND ON DOSAGE!
CONCLUTION ;
1. How much al in the body can cause it?
2. how much al take from this route, in a month? He mean by a right tech, this tech. Compare to food?
3. finally SwiHS wanna give SwiY the most important thing about health issue, #1 priority; the HIGHLY TOXIC thing gotten when one take meth isn't METH it self, but the impurities, I2 little amount enough to damage human brain, Iodo Meth,.....and of course decomposed meth. Give more time to the more important thing, to the higher priority. Place the priorities rightly.
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Old 17-10-2008, 15:07
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Geez... everyone around here is so uptight. SWIM didnt realize you were so passionate about defending a method (haha meth-od) of consuming that dangerous drug we all know and love. However...

Has SWIY ever smoked with a newbie? The guy who's pipe always seems to be black and his meth runs out quicker for some reason? Has SWIY ever smoked with that guy with aluminum foil? I know SWIM has...

Mr. Meth head #1 (the newbie) always seems to ride the flame way to close. Before you know it, that torch like burns a whole through the aluminum like its a torch cutting through a ship. If SWIY is inahling at that point, blam-O. SWIY gets a perminent house guest in your lungs. Never had that happen to me with a baked potato.

Just like a cigarette smoker never knows which cigarette gives him cancer... same concept. We cant tell. Thats why its dangerous. Even if people knew, they would probably still due it... its the tweakers persona.

But I agree with you. I mean fuck it, right? I know SWIM doesnt care THAT much about his body. SWIM is already putting one thing in it that is unhealthy, might as well go for the record. Oh, had a little to much sodium today, thats unhealthy for SWIM. Lets counter it with some heroin and then was it down with some battery acid.

On a serious note, if SWIY or anybody else wants to kill themselves QUICKER, thats fine with me. But Ill tell you this, SWIM isnt going out like that. If drugs are taking SWIM out, its going to be the good old fashioned way, like a OD. If your gonna do drugs you might as well do drugs. Cancer is over rated anyways.
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Old 23-10-2008, 09:12
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Sorry for delaying.
1. Healt issue; SwiHS think what he meant is clear; health is important, he agree to minimalise the risk, the big issue is meth impurities,...and he add one more is enough sleeping time. And it's easily to accept that people take big amount of aluminum from food, reminding that many kitchen ware (for baking, cooking,...) is made from aluminum. And it isn't hard to find other sources like ANTACID, he just check a forte one contains 400 mg Mg(OH) and 400 mg Al(OH)3 in a tablet. If foil route can give too much al to the body, mom - grand mom that evenly cook/bake in the kitchen and gastritis ill people that usually take antacid will get alzheimers. Place everything in the right proportion. He think what he meant is easy to understand, come on...swiTR just need to realize that it's ok to be wrong, normal.

2. Now swiTR talk about the newbie smoker, yes he agree they might be fail at first, same like newbie car rider as well as when swiy learn to speak, walk or whatever. Do swiY think newbie won't over heat the meth if they use a glass pipe/bowl (and will take decomposed meth)? Some bees post arguments, all is about the al route compare to glass route and no one argue about how this tech won't work. Simply it's cause these bees just a little bit know about al route tech, never mind whatever he hope SwiTR give him a strong clever argument, that hard to be answered.
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Old 26-10-2008, 03:53
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

Smoking meth off of glass is the only way to go for SWIM, and smoking is the only way to go period, snorting or oral use of meth isnt near as pleasurable and can last too long, not the euphoria but speedy ness.

Meth can give u a worse high than a shitty ADD medication if its low quailiy and not smoked, but nothing in the world compares to higb quality meth(crystal) minutes after smoking it... Simple the best drug/non drug exprience you will ever have.

Low quality meth in Pills and even low quality crystal can feel like a completely different substance than clean meth.
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Re: Smoking Quality, Meth via Al foil

In SWIM's opinion, there's only 2 reasons anyone should "stay loyal to the foil".....

1. It will cause SWIM to smoke less because of the hassle of making the "boat", finding tooter and so on........Cause with a "peezo", all SWIM needs to do is pull it out, light it and blow clouds.......

2. SWIM is less likely to get busted because it's harder to stash/hide a peezo during a brush with "Johnny Law".......Where as foil can be kept in single sheets in between the pages of a magazine or book

But as for SWIM, SWIM will always stick to a nice, brand new, thick glass pipe or "oil burner"........SWIM also will buy 4 ft rods of pyrex and make bubblers.........MAPP gas is the shit!!

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