Drug info - What is DMAA ???

[Micutzul]

I keep finding this psychoactive substance available in legal party pills and powder form. The sites keep saying it's better than bzp ..whatever, you can't really trust what somebody says when he's trying to make a buck.

I haven't found any scientific source about this "new party drug ", not even what the abbreviation stands for . Maybe i didn't look hard enough.

On a site i found this -> "DMAA is the worlds best legal alternative to BZP and amphetamine. DMAA is a derivative of geranium oil which resembles the body’s own chemical messenger, epinephrine (adrenaline). Like adrenaline, DMAA is a powerful CNS stimulant." , "1gram is between 20 and 40 doses"

If it's effects are anything like epinephrine i doubt anyone would consider it a party drug, unless their idea of a party is intense anxiety and a fight/or/flight instinct. Then again , even if it's chemically similar it could have very different effects. However , most sites that sell DMAA , have ceased selling bzp or even all piperazines. Unless they're crazy or they hate money , this probably means that they expect people to LOVE DMAA .

As uninformed as i am about this, i wouldn't try it in any other way then building up from 0,5 mg. But actually i'm not going to try it at all until i get more info.

Anyone have any idea about DMAA?

[Panthers007]

DMAA is one abbreviation out of many possibles that mean Geranamine. This abbreviation inferring 1,3-Dimethylamylamine.

I wouldn't believe the hype from websites that are buying it by the railroad-car full and selling it for a fortune. It's been used for some time by bodybuilders and other sporting-types. Most would say it has somewhat enjoyable effects, but falls short of being worth keeping it around - or it ends up in a jar collecting dust.

Google Geranamine. And UTFSE.

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[Micutzul]

Thanks . Yeah it seems to be quite useful in the bodybuilding/sports scene so if a cyborg were to order this , even if it has litlle recreational potential it would still go to good use .

[kalininin]

swim thinks the bzp and other piperazine selling sites of now are having more and trouble to keep doing this legally, so now they're pushing the laegal dmaa. this could mean its an interesting substance [equally so as piperazines] or that its being overhyped, or that its somewhere inbetween.

[FrankenChrist]

Recreational? All I've heard of it is that it is a mild stimulant often used in stacker combos for bodybuilders. Some products advertise it as a replacement for ephedrine.

[Richard_smoker]

well, it's definitely a stimulant...but how "good" of one has yet to be agreed upon.

I know of someone who used it (ClearShot) when he ran out of his adderall prescription. he claimed that while it certainly lacked the "depth" (?euphoria?) of amphetamines, it DID work in terms of allowing him to keep going and prevented him from falling asleep at his desk while working.

it doesn't have the amphetamine-quality that ephedrine gives. But it is more stimulating than caffeine, with a similar 'clear-headedness' to caffeine.

Actually, this same individual swears that it is more effective at a normal Clearshot dose (doesn't say on the label how many mg's per dose) than 100 or 200mg Modafanil.

Granted, most supplements INCLUDING Clearshot include caffeine. Friend knows this, and still maintains that it's more effective for him than Modafanil at 'waking him up.'

If swiy're looking for a 'buzz' then i don't think you're looking in the right place. -DICK

[Stephenwolf]

Unknown People's have been using it recreationally, and have been meaning to add a report to this forum... have it all written out even, just haven't typed it in... Unknowns don't find it stimulating on its own, kind of sedating when used alone actually, haven't tried it in combinations. used in 60mg doses.

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great addition. i had no reference to the actual # of mg's. thanks.

[enquirewithin]

If that's what's in Clear Shot, it doesn't impress my pig at all. It's somewhat stimulating but with no euphoria, just giving him a rather jittery effect which he wasn't really sure he liked. I've read in other forums that it may potentiate methylone.

[kalininin]

swim has been trying larger doses [say 150 -200 mgrs] n he had trouble staying awake.
he thought hed have a nice light buzz at christmas dinner [of a stimulating kind oc], but he kept zoning out...hed need a gulp of wine to get normal for a few minutes. this went on and the whole evening, bearable but not nice at all.
actually at that moment swim blamed a 20mg codeine pill for the lethargic feelings [hed had almost no experience with opiates], but the next day he took some 200 mgr of dmaa n after 45mins he almost fell asleep.
ok, so swim shouldve stuck to the advised dose of 25 -50 mgr swiys would say...well he did this some 3 times, he experienced a small energy lift and a rather large bad-mood lift. he's finished with this substance. oh yeah, he takes efexor [snri antidepressant], maybe this could explain the strage fx, but hedoubts it cuz he can take most drugs without a problem.

[chupamivergaguey]

I hear someone I know has been experimenting with MDAA the past few weeks. They tell me that small doses (about 10-30 mg) snorted or smoked have a mild stimulant effect. They also tell me that larger doses (around 200 mg) dissolved in water cause 12-14 hours of what feels EXACTLY like Xanax withdrawal. But with MDAA you only get 12 hours or so rather than 2 weeks.

This does not suggest it is physiologically addictive, rather it suggests that it just isn't pleasureable enough to cause addiction. And if you take too much, you get what feels like hardcore benzodiazepine withdrawal. My frind would relegate this to the same bin as other legal highs like yohimbe, ephedrine, etc. But not kratom. Kratom rules.

[enquirewithin]

I think the ephedrine analogy is very valid. ("I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy," as a friend once said of ephedrine.)

[magicmik]

Originally Posted by Stephenwolf

Unknowns don't find it stimulating on its own, kind of sedating when used alone actually, used in 60mg doses.

Swim would agree with this from the small ~ 12mg line he snorted. Swim has a fair bit of workout experience and dosen't understand why bodybuilders would use this. Swim felt almost dissaciated not stimulated and definatly no pleasure.

Swim might try some oral next time.

With snorting it has to be the worse thing swim has ever tried. It stung like hell and left a lingering taste/smell of burnt wood.

It was v cheap and just as well otherwise swim would be anoyed.

[pilipuntos]

SWIM's taken 100mg many times before doing exercise and noticed a mild stimulation, but nothing else. No euphoria.

SWIM thinks that this compound hasn't any recreational value.

[magicmik]

Swim took 20-30mg orally on an empty stomach.

Swim got some stimulation characterised by jaw clenching and felt pretty awake. There was not much mental stimulation, infact quite the opposite as swim mind started to wander and swim lost concentration several times.

There was no eurphoria.

The effects lasted about 1.5 hours and wore off gradually. Later in the day swim did feel more tired than normal, but not too bad.

Swim still has quite a bit of this un-exciting chemical left so will try some new things soon.

[Alfa]

1,3-dimethylamylamine (geranamine)

[Tony Williams]

Is this stuff on Erowid, I could not find it. Also is it worth parting a single digit for a gram of this stuff?

Snort, shoot or drop it? What dose?

[magicmik]

Originally Posted by Tony Williams

Is this stuff on Erowid, I could not find it. Also is it worth parting a single digit for a gram of this stuff?

Snort, shoot or drop it? What dose?

Not checked erowid (to be honest some reports are too long winded).
Is it worth a digit? No. Is swim glad he bought and tried? Yes.

What swim means is that for recreation this stuff seams limited but swim is always glad to try new stuff. Swim has tried vaporising (on foil), snorting and dropping small amounts (20-50mg). Each is a little different and equally dsiappointing (check swims previous reports)

Swim agrees with others that this chemical is not for pleasure and best used in combination for stimulation. Let us know how it goes.

ps swim parted with 5 fingers for a single from a well known auction site.