Other - Bad trips

[anony]

Hi
Any swims ever unfortunately experienced a bad trip on pills? Happened to swim once before and happened today also.
Swim had a heavy night of pills last night (10 in total), went to bed at 4.30 AM and woke up at 8.30 AM and proceed to work feeling fine, perhaps slightly groggy.
Got to work then it all turned sour fortunately for swim the guy he was working with today is a good friend of swim's and was understanding. But swim could feel himself cracking up at about 11 AM. Swim left work for a while for some fresh air and proceeded to pace up and down a road for what seemed a long time whilst swim tried to get the thought of a bad trip out of his mind..didnt work , turned out to make it worse and was in reality only actually 5 minutes! Next thing you know "bum bum bum", heart beat was fucking overclocking. Swim knew he needed to calm himself but it was fucking difficult. Swim tried calling a really good close friend but had moments of paranoia thinking it would make him worse, and yep he was right , pretty much had to put the phone down on him.
Tried lying down in a field and calming himself but could only hear more thumping of his heart. Swim forced himself to lie there and calm himself, then ended up tripping more cause of a bird which kept churping .
After 2 hours of hell swim managed to calm himself and was fine from then on.
Was fucking horrible though! Especially as people seemed to make it worse so swim had to handle it himself.
Anyone ever experienced a bad trip? They're extremely random and fucking horrible.

[KomodoMK]

Luckily my little fishy have never experienced a bad trip, especially in relation to MDA/MDMA use. He once had mild chest pains and a rapid heart rate which lead to him starting to panic, this was when he was going to bed after using a fairly large amount of amphetamines. He managed to calm himself quite easily and just kept telling him it was the drugs and he would be fine... and he was. The next morning he found out the girl he was using amphetamines with was actually admitted to hospital with a possible overdose that night which was a little scary.

[anony]

After swim's first bad trip experience he was very scared to take them again and took him a large amount of research and studying to finally concour his fobia. He finally dropped and was fine and continued to abuse for a while, he would get random moments of paranoia when he could feel a bad trip coming on but managed to find ways to control it, basically, he didn't give it the time of day. 6 Months later (last night) swim dropped and I guess cause of the large amount of seretone and over time I guess swim forgot how to control the beginning of bad trips.
It feeds off itself though, if it's starting to happen and you allow it to continue to happen, it will happen.
It's fucking horrible tho
For any unfortunate swimmers though, if it does happen, push yourself but also reward yourself with positive thoughts. Constantly keep reminding yourself that you've just got through 30 minutes of the worst time of your life so it can only get better. Probably sounds bad but it was that kind of positivity which got swim through it.

[KomodoMK]

High doses of MDMA are well known to cause paranoia, anxiety and many other unwanted negative effects. The best experience is believed by most to be around 120mg initial dose and maybe one top up dose of 60-80mg. Maybe sticking around that dosage will prevent or reduce the negative effects. The problem with pills is the content is not known, and so the problems could be caused by another chemical.

[anony]

Thing is, last night swim was fine.
No paranoia whatsoever throughout the night.
I'm guessing he just hit rock bottom at the start of come down, which kinda makes sense cause when he was up, he was UP .

[Romie1985]

Sounds like anxiety. SWIM gets this all the time after MDMA consumption for a couple days after MDMA use. SWIM finds taking 5htp once in the morning and once at night for a week, greatly lessens his anxiety.

[desperado]

no wonder after 10 pills what did you expect lol

SWIM always had bad come downs after taking 6+ per night. Now SWIM only take 1-2 a night and feeling fine