Drug info - The Color of H

[Herbal Remedy]

swim has been getting acquainted with H for a lil while and has noticed the wide varieties of appearance. Sometimes swim picks up a bunch of tiny "packs" or foils that tend to be a brownish powder. Other times swim just gets a nice sized rock off the street (a few grams or so) and its always whitish. he always prefer to get a rock cuz its cheaper, better, and goes up the nose nice n smooth.

swim was wondering if there is any correlation to color and quality, or if its more just a matter of "what kind of cut". Swim was also wondering what kind of dope it sounds like (black tar, etc).

On a side note, swim has tried shooting up a few times now and is having trouble achieving the desired effect. The first time he shot up he used 1/2 a dose to be safe, but he barely felt anything. Now swim has tried shooting up the same amount he snorts, and he finds he doesnt get as high as he does when snorting, aint that crazy. Swim knows how to use a needle and everything seems right with the setup, but when he pushes that plunger down he is yet to feel the "rush", swim is missing out

any advice/tips/feedback to this post is greatly appreciated. Thanks yall

[amadeusstoner]

In addition to water you may also have to dissolve the heroin into citric acid. Some brown heroin doesn't dissolve into water as readily for some reason. (from what SWIM tells me at least... he still hasn't shot it yet but really wants to.)

As far as color i think you would be right in that its mostly about cut being that pure heroin is white.

[olduncle]

Swim's seen a wide variety of colors, and could not correlate color to quality. Swim was in port in Thailand, for example, and purchased some dope that was quite yellow - it looked like country time lemonade mix. Various sailors from NYC and Philly OD'd on sub-match head sized doses of this dope.

The answer, unfortunately, is try it and see.

Are swiy sure swiy aren't missing on the shots? It seems impossible to oil up and get less effect than snorting, unless swiy's getting #3 which is made for smoking. Swim'd smoke a quarter dose and see what happened.

[amadeusstoner]

i am pretty sure its heroin #3 that needs citric acid to dissolve into water.

[nick23]

Diamorphine is pure white,but there's absolutely no link between colour and quality for street dope.

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by Herbal Remedy

swim has been getting acquainted with H for a lil while and has noticed the wide varieties of appearance. Sometimes swim picks up a bunch of tiny "packs" or foils that tend to be a brownish powder. Other times swim just gets a nice sized rock off the street (a few grams or so) and its always whitish. he always prefer to get a rock cuz its cheaper, better, and goes up the nose nice n smooth.

swim was wondering if there is any correlation to color and quality, or if its more just a matter of "what kind of cut". Swim was also wondering what kind of dope it sounds like (black tar, etc).

On a side note, swim has tried shooting up a few times now and is having trouble achieving the desired effect. The first time he shot up he used 1/2 a dose to be safe, but he barely felt anything. Now swim has tried shooting up the same amount he snorts, and he finds he doesnt get as high as he does when snorting, aint that crazy. Swim knows how to use a needle and everything seems right with the setup, but when he pushes that plunger down he is yet to feel the "rush", swim is missing out

any advice/tips/feedback to this post is greatly appreciated. Thanks yall

First things first swiy needs to establish which type of heroin he has,unless it's black and sticky (mexican black tar)it will be one of two types:no3 heroin freebase this will not dissolve in water and requires the adittion of citric acid.no4 heroin hydrocloride this will dissolve in water no citric needed.
now if swiy cannot decide which he has he could put a little amount on to some tin foil and heat from underneath with a lighter,if the heroin melts and turns in to a thick liquid which runs readily along the foil and solidifys when the heat is removed,he will have no3.
When swiy is cooking up is fix make sure that he dosent overheat the soup as this can reduce the heroins strength.
And remember the golden rule "push the pin in and draw back if it's red go ahead,if it's pink stop and think!!

One final word from swim be carefull,getting the technique right may greatly increase the strength of swiys fix..

[cuddlesthefox]

When swim first started he would get someone else to shoot him up even tho his veins were massive. Swims girlfriend at the time used to do it for swim but she was really terrible and always left swim in a right mess. Strangely swims girlfriend was a nurse so that might explain it cos some of them are crap.
Just take your time and maybe get a mate to go through things with you to make sure everything is done right.
Oh and don't ask swim about the quality of the gear as his left leg looks like it's been attacked by a dog after doing smack cut with brick dust.

[Herbal Remedy]

SWiM says thanks for the replies. Swim knows how to work a needle (though not for recreational drug use) and is pretty sure he has it down. Swim always draws up a lil red and keeps the needle right, pushing in slowly.

when he takes the needle out is he suppose to see a drop of blood come from the site?


Swims first try left him with a bruise feeling in his arm, along with a small bump at the site (he thinks that time he may have missed). The next few times there wasnt much of a bruised feeling or any bump, but still no rush. Swim still prefers to snort, but is ok with that even if he has to bump a lil more, he should always cut back anyway.

I think swim is just infatuated with the idea of a "rush" or feeling better than what he already feels on H. Perhaps he should just avoid the issue.

Swim says thanks again

[olduncle]

Originally Posted by Herbal Remedy

when he takes the needle out is he suppose to see a drop of blood come from the site?

This is normal, and better than seeing a trickle of dope (aka 'running out').

Originally Posted by Herbal Remedy

Swims first try left him with a bruise feeling in his arm, along with a small bump at the site (he thinks that time he may have missed).

There's a range of 'misses' - it's possible to get some or most of the dose into the vein yet sill get a little into surrounding tissue, only a little into the vein, or all of it IM. None of these are good for swiy's veins. Whenever swiy get a hard nub around the shot, run some hot water over it right away, use a heating pad, etc.

Originally Posted by Herbal Remedy

still no rush.

It is impossible for a correct IV dose of vitamin H to have less effect than snorting it. Swiy's either got smoking heroin or missed or both.

[youdontknow]

Well, the darker stuff (tar) is basically just china (the white stuff) that hasnt been as purified. So generally the lighter in color it is the better. Thats why china costs so much more than tar.

[Junkhead23]

Originally Posted by DeadLegend

Well, the darker stuff (tar) is basically just china (the white stuff) that hasnt been as purified. So generally the lighter in color it is the better. Thats why china costs so much more than tar.

Really depends where SWIM is really. Over here there is no correlation between colour and strength. For instance a while back there was some really white stuff about that when cooked up solidified in the pin and even if SWIM managed to get it into himself it either solidified in body or didn't do anything (effect wise).

[chronicpain247]

Originally Posted by DeadLegend

Well, the darker stuff (tar) is basically just china (the white stuff) that hasnt been as purified. So generally the lighter in color it is the better. Thats why china costs so much more than tar.

I'm not sure if that is true in all cases. in philly here we have stuff that goes from white to dark tan but swim has found that the darker the better, swim thinks this is because all of the H coming into the city in bulk is dark tan and the white stuff has just been cut to shit with something that is white and therefore lighter in color. swim has also noticed that the white stuff does not have the strong vinegar smell like the tan stuff and is another sign of weakness.

Question...wouldn't you notice that the H is #3 and not dissolving correctly? when swim puts the tan powdery stuff from philly in the cooker is all dissolves into the water so wouldn't you notice if there was still a lot of undissolved particles floating around?