Health - Morphine uses

[On The Nod]

In ones opion what is the best and most proven method of obtaining morphine from ones doctor/GP (in England)? I intend to produce Heroin for a daily habit, so any methods or previous experiences of how to succesfully walk out of the GP's office with a prescription for morphine. This is for long term purposes so a one off script altough gladly taken would not be the preferred option. Thanks

[On The Nod]

Would the local UK GP ever be likely to give SWIM a supply of morphine for back pain? I havent asked yet but i intend to as i've had bad back pain for a while now...

[RoboCodeine7610]

No, he'll probably give you codeine, if anything.Some doctors give you Paracetamol and Iboprofen.

[On The Nod]

Yea, SWIM thought that, however SWIM intends to try codiene and then say it isnt strong enough. Was thinking of working my way up to morphine, if GP would ever prescribe it

[Junkiebaddypowder]

Swim isnt sure about England but swim knows that before they put swiy on any narcotic medications for the back they usually try a series of injections which can block the pain for up to five years.... Also, they are more likley to start swiy on a muscle relaxer first becuase alot of the time back pain is muscular not skeletal.

warning: if they offer swiy injections TAKE THEM! becuase if swiy turns them down they will definatly check you off as drug seeking... they did it so swims boyfriend. Get either the facet injection or the epideral injection and then complain afterwards becuase the success rate on most injectionss is only 50% ( atleast thats what swims doc told swim)

oh and Physical therapy.... they willl send you there too.... best advice is to do what they say but never let on swiy has been relieved from pain

[chillinwill]

not to be a dick or anything, but aren't you the same person that came on here yesterday under a different username posting exactly the same question in multiple areas and once again, the same question is posted under multiple areas today?

[On The Nod]

So, if SWIM went through the process of trying different pain relivers/ muscle relaxants with no suceess, would SWIY think the GP would evenuatlly try morphine?

[Micklemouse]

Originally Posted by pmherson

So, if SWIM went through the process of trying different pain relivers/ muscle relaxants with no suceess, would SWIY think the GP would evenuatlly try morphine?

No, unless as was stated in a reply to another of your drug-seeking advice threads your monkey had at some point done some serious damage to their back. Read broken it at some point.

Please stop clogging upi the forum with what amounts to the same question posted over & over again.

The majority of GP's in Britain, or anywhere for that matter will pick up on drug seeking behaviour a mile off. Opiates are the last resort. Your monkey is more likely to be prescribed physiotherapy, massage, NSAIDS SSRI's, or possibly an appointment to the pain clinic before any opiates are even considered never mind something with a profile like Morphine.

Life is not a Bill Burroughs novel. Doctors do not just hand out opiates. It just doesn't happen.

[olduncle]

Originally Posted by Micklemouse

Life is not a Bill Burroughs novel. Doctors do not just hand out opiates. It just doesn't happen.

This is of course true. "Beat the Doctor" is a long term project, frankly a con job that will take months in the best circumstances and one which will not succeed if the patient has any of the drug-seeking behavior signs.

That said, it is certainly possible to move up from Vicodin, though perhaps not to Miss Emma (here in the US, Oxy is more likely). If a forum member's pet Iguana had the sincere countenance, the correct symptoms and history, and the patience to go back month after month whining about the Celebrex and similar trash that would always come first, eventually the Iguana might score.

In my Iguana's youth, an old semi-coherent MD was such a well known cough syrup source that every day his waiting room was full of sufferers, and they never left unhappy. 100% of his patients had the same malady and received the same prescription. Those days are long gone, but somebody has to be getting scrips for the stuff that's diverted, right?

[RoboCodeine7610]

Answer chillinwill's question!

[On The Nod]

In response to Chillinwill's question, where exactly have i posted the same question today? exactly there not similar at ALL! Facts are crucial to allegations in law...
Secondly ive already been told about yesterday as it was my first day and i didnt read the rules properly..

[On The Nod]

Thanks for that SWIY.
P.s. American term- Miss Emma? Morphine, Yes?

[olduncle]

Originally Posted by pmherson

P.s. American term- Miss Emma? Morphine, Yes?

Yeah, all variations of the letter M have probably been used here at one time or another. Miss Emma was used by a number of older folks SWIUncle associated with many years ago, and was apparently the zoot-suited BeBoppers term of choice for our friend Vitamin M back in the 30s and 40s in NYC.

olduncle added 8 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...

By the way, 'Beat the Doctor' can be an entertaining and fun project. Finding the right condition, exhibiting the symptoms, gently guiding them into suggesting the use of stronger and stronger drugs while sw steadfastly refuses to even consider such morally deficient prescriptions, etc. A lot of things to know, a lot of research to do, acting skills, etc. Quite rewarding, too, as one could possibly end up fully analgesic-ized almost all the time and have it be 100% legal.

Back pain may not be the right answer, ISEO (in someone else's opinion). Severely painful and debilitating chronic conditions for which there are no tests other than self-reported symptoms are the ticket. A place to find out about those would be insurance companies, who often specify in their policies such conditions for exclusion for the very reason that they cannot be proved or disproved.

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[On The Nod]

SWIM looked 4 other chronic conditions which someone might get supplied morphine for. Teeth pain was one found, the insurance company websites were very complicated, do SWIY have any idea what conditions is best to portray to GP to obtain Mr M?

[olduncle]

Originally Posted by pmherson

any idea what conditions is best to portray to GP to obtain Mr M

Well, Sciatica was mentioned and is seriously miserable. But, ISO, the problem with back pain for this purpose is the extra baggage in treatment process. Physical therapy for certain, multiple other prescriptions (SWIM would fill them for the paper trail but not take them), eventual recommendations for surgery, etc. What Swiy wants is a condition that has no cure so that they simply treat the symptoms, that is chronic, and that is painful. There will be lots of other symptoms no matter which condition is picked, and it is these that must be convincingly exhibited.

Frankly, anyone who can't do their own research and think up their own scam details is doomed to fail and shouldn't bother trying. Successful Long Con practitioners are born, not made. Smart, quick, the ability to look others in the eye and tell outlandish lies successfully, to do this to one's friends and relatives and loved ones, to engineer a scam so wide that it encompasses every aspect of swiy's life and everyone in it, and to not feel bad about it - if this isn't swiy, another approach should be chosen.

Think about it: If swiy is in so much pain that swiy needs morphine sulfate, can swiy go to work, go to school, mow the lawn, take a jog? All angles of all aspects and their results ten moves forward need to be analyzed and prepared for. Only swiy can decide if swiy has the right stuff, but one way to figure that out is to select a decent condition choice. Since SWIUncle isn't interested in helping swiy get arrested, he will only state that if he were interested in such things, he could figure out which condition was the proper choice in an hour or less via various web and print resources. If swiy can't get it in a day or three, swiy needs to bark up another tree.

Not trying to be a prick, swiy. Swiuncle is an experienced hand at such things and has mentored more than a few youngsters once they made the decison to become criminals. But there are many crafts in the trade and some are better suited to specific ones than others. Simple tests like the research project in front of you are necessary, and will help people avoid prison, embarassment, wasting their time, etc.

[beena]

SWIMs boyfriend suffers with sciatica and he is indeed prescribed morphine (MST 30mg times three a day) and tramadol. At one point (he was in severe pain though at the time) he was prescribed diamorphine. It is possible to get prescribed morphine for backpain then, but first SWIY would have to try other painkillers (SWIMs boyfriend went from tramadol to oxycontin to fentanyl patches to diamorphine and then to MST with tramadol - the most effective combination for him). To get to that level of medication though SWIMs boyfriend had to go back and forwards repeatedly to the doctor (sometimes he was going twice a week - genuinely in pain I might add), and begging the doctor for help ... it also helps that his doctor has been his doctor for many years and so knew him and his problems.

Oh, and btw ... if SWIY has any history of drug abuse and SWIY's doctor knows about it then it's a different story - SWIY won't have a chance in hell of getting morphine!!!

[RoboCodeine7610]

Why don't you buy them at online Pharmacies? You don't even need a prescription...

[fiveleggedrat]

Online pharmacies blow.

Perhaps Swiy found some good ones that actually sell restricted products.

The only ones Swim ever sees today that have goodies tend to be fake/scams.

[On The Nod]

Does SWIY know or think that SWIM could support a daily heroin habit by converting morphine (legitamatlly obtained from the GP) to heroin?

[Oneiros]

That depends completely on the quantity of morphine, the skill of the chemist, and the size of the habit.

Also... you can make all sorts of things from morphine besides heroin...

[Bendah!]

A better question is why would SWIY want to start a daily heroin habit?

[wopa]

remember the habit will increase the longer you have it each habit lasts around the 5 year mark or longer you either die or get sent down

[Solinari]

I have seen that the chemical required to do this (acetic anhydride) is hard to obtain, or if not hard to obtain at least closely watched by the authorities because it's a crucial chemical in the production of heroin. Seems like more trouble than it's worth and certainly not a good idea to start a habit, it might be a good way to support an already acquired habit but to start one, that is just silly.

Going on seven years my fiend has WASTED on smack, and seven years he could have done a lot of things, in fact my fiend thinks he could probably have done anything he wanted to do. At the time thought he didn't believe in himself, so who knows. Whatever would have happened, he does know that his life would be a whole lot better if he gave heroin a miss.

[porchy]

I don't think you can get morphine prescribed from your GP. If you want morphine, go break your back or something.

[nick23]

I get IV M amps for addiction.All you gotta do is convince a friendly doc that you're a hopeless fiend............good luck with that.

and man,if you're seriously considering a little bath tub chemistry..........I'd stop advertising it over the net.