how compareable are salvia divinorum and DMT

[QGdoxl]

I was wondering how compareaable these two are? is DMT stronger?



Does either last longer?

Salvia can be very scary is DMT the same?



I've been on about just under 10 salvia trips now. I usually
smoke 100mg 5x or 10x depending on how hard I wanna trip. Are
these rather small doses compared to what other ppl smoke?
Do you build up a tolerance? I seem to remember hearing it is a
reverse tolerance is this true?

[pyro15]

From what I've read, it sounds like DMT is more powerful. Haven't had the opportunity to try either myself, but SWIM will be trying to change that as soon as possible.

[Softrat]

I would assume DMT is very different as it is a tryptamine. I would guess DMT's subjective feel is at least somewhat like shrooms.

[Sektor]

sorry, but is DMT the same as Daytura? thanks

[Alfa]

No, it is not.

[raven3davis]

SWIM has done salvia and DMT and here is how he would compare them. Salvia for SWIM is much more scary and not really enojoyable. SWIM still loves to take some rips every once in a while but SWIM really doesnt get much from a salvia trip. SWIMS salvia peaks normally last like 5 minutes, then for like 20 more minutes SWIM is very hot and basically uncomfortable. DMT peaks last about the same for SWIM around 5 minutes, then another 10-15 minutes of mild visuals when SWIM is in complete awe. Salvia is much more dreamlike, more like a nightmare, and DMT is much more visual and gives SWIM entity contact and heavy hallucinations. I would say both of these substances are among the most intense SWIM has ever tried but really they dont compare. SWIM would smoke DMT over salvia any day because salvia is almost the same every time for SWIM. It is hard to even comprehend what happened and SWIM normally doesnt even begin to try to think about it. DMT hits you hard but SWIM normally remembers that he smoked DMT and can usually learn a great deal froma DMT trip. I hope this helped.

[cavalera]

lol, who is SWIM? also, x5 and x10 salvia isnt worthwhile, try x15 or x18, but be careful because if you fight it, you will want to die, the trip is awful, just lay in a dim room ON YOUR OWN, with someone popping in every couple of mins and let it take you away

[Demonslayer]

I've seen people go right to level five or six with plain leaves, but that has not happened to me. I jumped right into a level five trip and was in level six for God knows how long on just one toke of homemade 5x. On a strong salviatrip it dosn't matter if you are on your own or how the room is lit, you are in a completely different world.


People react differently to salvia, so I really think it is bad advice to recomend strong extracts to firsttimers.

[cavalera]

Originally Posted by Demonslayer

I've seen people go right to level five or six with plain leaves, but that has not happened to me. I jumped right into a level five trip and was in level six for God knows how long on just one toke of homemade 5x. On a strong salviatrip it dosn't matter if you are on your own or how the room is lit, you are in a completely different world.


People react differently to salvia, so I really think it is bad advice to recomend strong extracts to firsttimers.

i disagree, you need a minder to check on you, read the other posts its essential, also the feel of the room is important, a room full of people listening to metal isnt going to be the same as a dark quiet room with someone minding you, personally i know which id prefer, and i love metal





well, thats my opinion... Edited by: cavalera

[Montgolfier]

Yeah its true - better safe than sorry - but i see what the guy's saying, when its a strong hit - it doesnt matter what music/light-situation u got going on, u still going into salvia land no matter what!!!The main thingto remember is --> make sure you're physically comfortable before taking a hit - cos if itsa strong one you're just gonna fall back and dream


Not sure I agree with the fact that you need a 'sitter' though, if you are experienced and realise the potential then you can prepare. - I allways make sure im not near any ornaments/breakables/family members then let rip hehe

[blindpanda_eric]

Really.. you gotta try it and compare it for yourself. Salvia to
alot of people is very different than even DMT. The Salvia trip
is very variable. Try it out, and tell us what you think.

[RoboCop]

Salvia is not comparable to any other psychedelic/hallucinogen in the world. SalvinorinA has a completely different way of effecting the brain than other psychedelics. SalvinorinA does not act outside of the cells like other hallucinogens salvinorinA is a diterpen(spelling) and acts within the cells which may explain why its mechanism of action is far different than anything else.

[bonghed]

well the nearest description i can think for salvia is dmt and vice versa, however they very different