Entity VS Entity salvia-dmt

[billbong]

Check out D. M. Turner's trip report where he smoked breakthrough doses of DMT and Salvia within a very short period. He witnessed the respective entities battle each other, each shocked that they were in a situation where they were challenged for supremacy. Apparently the Salvia won!




D.M. Turner - 650 mcg. Salvinorin with 30 mg. N.N. DMT


After returning from this DMT journey I got the idea of smoking Salvinorin
and DMT simultaneously. At the time I did not think to consult with either
the Salvia entity or the DMT entity, and proceeded with my planned experiment. I smoked 30 mg. of DMT in three tokes, followed immediately by 650 mcg. of Salvinorin that I had preloaded in a separate pipe.

The effects were felt almost immediately. The first thing I noticed was a
grid of crosshatch patterns. I had perceived something similar when using
2C-B with mushrooms, which I believed to be the result of using two
psychedelics that were not compatible with each other. However, in this
case the patterns were defined to a much sharper degree, and it seemed
apparent that these two substances affect consciousness in differing ways
that are not synchronistic when used together. Both the Salvia and DMT
entities seemed to have been taken entirely off guard and had not been
expecting this confrontation. These entities seemingly paid no attention
to me as their attention was entirely fixed on each other. It soon became
apparent that the two were going to battle, vying to determine who would
have control of my consciousness.

It was like a scene of two Gods battling in a mythological tale. At first
it seemed that DMT, with its ability to manifest in spectacular forms
displaying its might, power, and ferociousness, would tower up above the
Salvia entity and overpower it. But the Salvia entity moves very fast, is
extremely maneuverable, and has a silent, stealthy force that will not be
denied. Soon the Salvia entity was running circles around, and had
interpenetrated the DMT. It was not a pretty scene to watch, but Salvia
took the upper hand.

The visions I was seeing while watching this battle were severely
distorted. smushed, reversed, and turned sideways. All the favorite
creatures of DMT Elf land were put together with the wrong body pans, or
body parts in the wrong places. Their normally gaudy outfits had been
turned into white and brown plaid shins, and they were wearing brown
leather shoes and carrying brown briefcases, Millions of these miserable
little creatures were frantically running around as door-to- door
salesmen. They were moving perpendicular to everything else on she surface
of their planet, as though they were obeying a gravitational force that
was at a 90 degree angle from everything in their surroundings.

By the end it seemed that DMT was unhappy and had lost face by being
unseated, possibly for the first time. The Salvia entity seemed reasonably comfortable in her ability to deal with DMT. Although she seemed glad that the battle was over, and still very surprised that I had introduced to her something that actually wanted to overpower her, and had made a significant attempt.

Fortunately, neither of these entities seemed extremely upset with me the
next time I confronted them. I've recently had some experiences where
these two seemed to be working together to make changes in my psyche
(although I had used them on separate occasions.) However, I will probably
never combine these entheogens again, unless I get a clear message from
both of them that this is desired. I also have not used Salvinorin with
mushrooms since psilocybin is very closely related to DMT.


Has anybody else done this? Any volunteers? I want to know if Salvia would win every time ... but I don't have the huevos to try such a combo at this point


Which do u think would come out victorious overall salvia vs DMT. I think salvia would beat dmt but 5-MEO-DMT would kick salvias ass.


WHICH DO U THIBK WOULD WIN????????Edited by: billbong

[raven3davis]

Very interesting. I would like to try this combo, but I think I would be way too smashed to be able to hit the salvia after toking the DMT. Why do you think the 5-meo-dmt would kick salvias ass? Also, do you think it work work if I smoked some salvia with dmt on it, so I wouldnt have to worry about hitting the salvia right after the DMT.

[Hyperreal]

I think the salvia entity would kick the shit out of pretty much any other entitiy - he's one hardcore motherfucker.

[sterling77]

Even though I haven't visited all the entities listed I agree that Salvia would kick their asses. Lol you have to admit though, this discussion is pretty amusing...
"In the next episode of Dragonball Z, Lady Salvia vyes against the DMT elves for control of billbong's consciousness!"
It just reminds me of that kind of thing

[transit]

Someone else who has looked at the results of combining DMT and Salvia, and
who has reported very different results than D.M. Turner, is Zoe Seven. </span>Below is a quote in which he describes some
of understanding of experiences resulting from combining Salvia and Ayahuasca. </span>Ahahuasca is a method in which DMT (or more
typically plants, such as Psychotria viridis, which contain DMT) is taken
orally and remains active due to the inclusion of MAO inhibitors.




</span>




Over the past couple of
years I have developed not only a relationship with these two shamanic teacher
plants but have also done this with their "offspring"...</span><u1></u1></span>




But, what is it like when
one combines ayahuasca together with salvia divinorum? Immediately two words
come to mind: real magic. And it is something one really has to experience in
order to comprehend. After many times of experiencing this alchemy of ayahuasca
and salvia divinorum I can not only talk about the experience but can actually
understand it.</span><u1></u1></span>




According to Rupert
Sheldrake's morphic theory, all species including insects, animals, and plants
have their own morphic field. This field serves as a pattern, which any given
species uses as a blueprint in order to draw its characteristics and literally
form its existence. Based on this theory, both the plants that make up the
ayahuasca brew as well as salvia divinorum have their own corresponding morphic
fields, which house their blueprints. However, the merger of the two teacher
plant's essences spawned a third 'force'. And, as a result, a new morphic field
carrying that new genetic information was created resulting in a new species, a
hybrid. And that's what's accessed when one mixes ayahuasca and salvia
divinorum.</span>




http://www.zoe7.com/

[moldie]

I injected a very large dose of 5-meo-dmt and just as I was pushing it into my vein I inhaled a large hit of 10x salvia extract. I blacked out and don't remember anything. Probably too much 5-meo-dmt, as I tend to experience black-outs when I IV this chemical. This nonsense about spirits battling eachother is a load of bullshit - can't people accept hallucinations for what they really are? Hallucinations! We're fucking with the chemicals in our brain, it causes everything to go haywire. Don't take your experiences too seriously.


I bet that guy who witnessed the epic battle is from Iceland - they're all fucking crazy over there.Edited by: moldie

[Dimitri]

moldie, I would be interested in HOW you iv 'ed 5MeoDMT. Do you need to convert it to salt? I don't get it solutable in water...