Health - long term effect of xtc, serat?

[tomtik]

Ok, so say SYSIM has.. done some drugs..SYSIM has tried mamarijuana, SYSIM has tried a bit of cocaine.. SYSIM also has done quite a bit of xtc..

Basically, prior to 18 .. SYSIM had only ever drank alchol.. started clubbing and so the pill came. SYSIM . no longer touch any substance - besides alchol..

SYSIM problem is only one thing, recently (I'm almost 20 now) after quite a bit of decrease in SYSIM 's social life - SYSIM is now working full time, studying and trying to build a different life.. prior to this SYSIM was clubbing 3 days a week.. and out with friends high almost every other day.. SYSIM has now realized he is no longer happy about anything.

SYSIM use to be a very energetic and active person .. and would get excited and be happy about almost everything. It was almost impossible to shut me SYSIM up, now SYSIM wake's up - SYSIM looks forward to nothing, nothing makes SYSIM happy, and SYSIM analyze myself so much.. SYSIM keeps thinking there is something wrong with him. SYSIM has
never in his entire life felt so lost. SYSIM is doing everything correctly in his life, for his age - he's got a good job.. He know what he's going to do with himself in the future.. and considerably his established..

Now to what I think is the cause, For about 6 or so months.. SYSIM use to pop 2-6 pills a night, 2 nights a week.. Then he stopped. He know that's intense but I was an idiot. SYSIM Donesn't know what came over him back then.

It has become so dull, that SYSIM may randomly sit down and just fade away into the most impulsive thoughts that SYSIM would never have thought before - SYSIM has sat at worked and literally thought at that moment.. how good it would be to just jump off the top of the building - and then SYSIM thought what the hell are you thinking? SYSIM always been an emotional person - but never to that extent.

SYSIM is not posting this as a sob story, I need to out figure out what's going on with SYSIM .

SYSIM have thought about it and can only find two possible causes of him being in this state of mind.


ecstasy , reduces seratonin? and can kill it off completely - effecting mood.

Or

The drastic change in SYSIM's social life, effecting his mood ?


SYSIM really does hope its the later, but SYSIM has an extremely gut feeling that its not. SYSIM 's social life did not mean that much to him, for him to be in this state due to that.

SYSIM also noticing a slur in words sometimes - which he can tell is from the xtc, because again.. he has never had that. Does this go back to normal over time?

SYSIM hope's its just not too late.

[KomodoMK]

My little fishy experienced slurring, albeit mild and some other side effects you mentioned but much more minor than you describe. He also had severe short term memory loss which came on quite abruptly, has SWIY had that at all?

My little fishy took a year of abstinence to get better, memory taking the longest to repair itself, although now it seems to be better than it was before. Odd.

MDMA is a chemical that needs to be treated with respect in order to get the same in return... it's a shame that most people realise that once it's too late.

[tomtik]

SWIY has not experienced any memory loss..

SWIY also didnt know this at the age of 18, and was too impulsive.

SWIY is wondering if those symptoms do repair themselfs, or is SWIY going to have to live like this.

[Niteflights]

Tomtik I think you are not needing to worry so much, the brain is remarkable in it's ability to recover from the most heinous traumas, much worse than your MDMA abuse. You are still relatively young and will get over any chemical imbalance that resulted. I think most importantly you are moving in positive directions which will only make your life better.

Studies have shown both HGH as well as many nutrients can help to recover from chemically induced brain damage/alterations. Also I would look into the Sota Brain tuner or similar CES device. They have demonstrated the capacity to help neurochemical balance as well as brain activity return to normal healthy states. Even a mild antidepressant like SAM-E or st. johns wort can work wonders.

Just keep up your discipline and things will get better, been there, your whole life is still ahead of you!

good luck!
Andrei

[tomtik]

SWIY's would like to thank both of you for your replies.

Piece of mind at the moment is a big deal for SWIY's.

Thanks .

[KomodoMK]

I'm sure SWIY will be perfectly fine given some time. The brain is a remarkable entity. A good diet and some exercise will help the process move along faster.

Once SWIY is better you can use MDMA again, just do so with respect and take a nice long break between, better for you health and it will feel more special when SWIY does use.

[tomtik]

Hey guys, me again.

I must say, I honestly don't feel like SWIY is the same person anymore, SWIY is also noticing eyes are always inflamed and itchy.. SWIY got his eyes checked and was told they are more than fine..
SWIY gets twitches in his eyes pretty often.

SWIY also thinks he made be depressed.

SWIY is constantly doubting himself and is always tripping out about the way he talks, hes appearance, and himself.

SWIY may be over reacting, but SWIY cannot think of what to do anymore.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by tomtik

Hey guys, me again.

I must say, I honestly don't feel like SWIY is the same person anymore, SWIY is also noticing eyes are always inflamed and itchy.. SWIY got his eyes checked and was told they are more than fine..
SWIY gets twitches in his eyes pretty often.

SWIY also thinks he made be depressed.

SWIY is constantly doubting himself and is always tripping out about the way he talks, hes appearance, and himself.

SWIY may be over reacting, but SWIY cannot think of what to do anymore.

I dont think that the eyes thing would be related, its tempting to think that every symptom that happens to your body is related to one certain thing, but thats rarely the case. I get these too on occasions, about once a week, really quick shudders from left to right that you can't control for a second or so. I dont think they're serious, but I dont know the medical name for them.

First thing, get swiy to go and tell his doctor. Tell him not to be scared about saying he thinks its a result of mdma use in the past, doctors are there to help not enforce the law. They might reccomend something or prescribe something that really helps. And its always a good idea to visit a couple of doctors and get separate opinions before starting medication. If you can find one that knows about drug use thats even better, some doctors are pretty clueless about this area, but I've found a few to be really helpful. You can even book a brain scan to check your levels of certain mood chemicals if you want to go that far, though that can get pretty expensive.

And I would reccomend that swiy takes 5-htp tablets, that you can buy from most health stores. Its the chemical that your brain breaks down to produce serotonin, so if your lacking in that it may sort you out. Start at 50-100mg a day and wait a week to see if it makes a difference. 50 mg is enough for me. Slowly increase the dose until he feels some change for the better (probably not a good idea to go above 250, but i know some people that use 300+). And swiy should eat fish oils with omega 3, and plenty of multivitamins and minerals.

And is swiy smoking marijuana? His symptoms seem to me more like what people get from smoking dope than the after effects of mdma. This type of reaction after binging on mdma is not unheard of, some people can be down in the dumps for a good year or so if they used way too much, but the brain nearly always sorts itself out in the long term, its a very clever organism.

[Junkhead23]

SWIM also had some of the effects after using MDMA that SWIY talk about. The slurring of speech (even when I pronounced my own surname) and also depletion of serotonin. SWIM has since ceased to stop taking MDMA but feels like he is a completely different person to what he once was. Depression has resulted from this. SWIM cannot say that this will happen to you for sure but please be careful. Also once SWIY stop taking MDMA regularly the world does start to feel normal again but this takes time. Hope this helps

[MindNRA]

How long have you been off MDMA? If longer then 6 months then all your serotonin levels are back in order a long time ago and the problem is elsewhere. I don't think your problem is chemical, rather psychological.

Either a) the last two years were so much fun and prolonged and constant expose to xtc put you into different perspective where normality would be considered boring.

b) you are still not following your right path the universe is letting you know this.

c) Depression is an experience everyone will get in their life, we are all going too or have experienced it. Maybe its your turn.

Either way, I don't think your problem is chemical so being concerned that drugs damaged your brain to cause constant depression is causing a spiral which follows into that depression. You have to convince yourself that you are happy. How do you do that?

If you got money, I would recommend traveling to India or Africa. After what you will see, you will have no choice but to enjoy your existence. Traveling to India made my father weep with what he saw and I didn't think that was possible.

[tomtik]

snetheasic - thanks for the advice, I have started taking omega 3 fish tablets, and also ordered that other other htp thing recently.. I did smoke a bit of dope.. but not a lot..

Also my eyes are constantly itchy and inflamed... weird.

junkhead - thanks for sharing your experience with me, hope all is well for you..

MindNRA - that's a good thought, that could possibly be correct.. and yes it has been over 6 months.. could be psychological.. I just figure the more information I get the better it is.. if I can come to a conclusion I can put my mind to rest and have one less thing to worry about.

I appreciate everyone's input in this thread.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by tomtik

snetheasic - thanks for the advice, I have started taking omega 3 fish tablets, and also ordered that other other htp thing recently.. I did smoke a bit of dope.. but not a lot..

As someone else said its unlikely to be serotonin deficiency after six months, but if it serotonin related then 5-htp will help, so u might aswell give it a bash. I would only go for 50 mg every day at night to begin with for the 5-htp, I get wierd side effects that effect my sleep when taking 100mg or more, but some people dont get any side effects, and take silly amounts. Its highly variable.

[MindNRA]

I would also recommend Melatonin on top of 5HTP. Reason, I think is that Melatonin is produced from serotonin so you save serotonin by eating Melatonin. To top it off you'll have really good crazy/relaxing dreams which will help you rest.

[Synesthesiac]

Originally Posted by MindNRA

I would also recommend Melatonin on top of 5HTP. Reason, I think is that Melatonin is produced from serotonin so you save serotonin by eating Melatonin. To top it off you'll have really good crazy/relaxing dreams which will help you rest.

Possibly a good idea, but you only need a small amount of melatonin. 0.25 - 0.5 mg maybe, if u use it too much when your young your brain can start to produce less and give you problems later in life. Well, not really problems, you'll just need to keep taking them to do what your brain normally does.