Dose - 2c-e? Or something else?

[Aoffke]

SWIM was given 2 gel caps by a friend that have been sitting in a drawer forgotten for a while. SWIM's friend thinks the contents are 2c-e, and SWIM's friend reportedly has tried this batch (one "dose") and reported an intense, colorful experience 8-10hrs in length.

One of the caps is very small, and is supposed to be one "dose". The other cap is size 0 or so and is supposed to be 3 doses. (oral).

This seemed fine, but SWIM decided to weigh the contents of the caps to quantitatively determine dose. SWIM weighed the black tray that came with her cheap GemPro-50 at 1.454g. Then weighed the tray with the contents of the caps. This read 1.472g, an 18mg difference. So we have ~18mg of power, give or take a few mg for error.

The small cap that had one "dose" in it, seemed to have very little powder in it, maybe 1-2mg. The powder is a very light yellow, almost white but clearly yellow. SWIM then dissolved all of the powder in 2oz of water. SWIM thought to use Marquis/Mecke/etc tests (which she has), but with so little powder she didn't wish to waste any. SWIM tasted maybe 100ug of the powder, and it tasted almost like diluted citric acid?

Even if the large 3 dose "cap" contained all 18mg, that would be only 6mg per dose. SWIM's friend that tried the ~6mg dose said the experience was quite similar in substance and intensity to 3.5g of strong cubensis. Could this stuff be 2c-e? Is another substance more likely?

[chillinwill]

as far as the taste of 2c-e goes, it kinda has a lemony citric taste to it....based on the description, i would have to say it seems like 2c-e

[Shampoo]

For most users, 6mg of 2C-E will elicit a far lesser response than 3.5g Cubensis mushrooms. An 18mg dose of 2C-E would be alot closer to 3.5g Cubensis, but for many, still not as intense. It seems too large to be a DOx chemical, though it could be, but based on the dose reponse curve, 18mg would be a thoroughly overwhelming and possibly dangerous dose of any DOx. On the other hand, it (6mg) is too small to be a full 'dose' of any of the 2C-x compounds, save for 2C-P but that one's a bit of a rarity, and disliked by many.

While it is possible that the unknown substance is 2C-E, no assumptions should ever, ever be made about unlabeled powder, especially when dealing with very potent research chemicals. It would probably make a pretty safe toilet bowl cleanser, or a decorative powder, but is not safe for consumption.

[pseudonym0]

swim agrees no definitive statements should be made about what the powder is, but thinks the idea that it is 2c-e can't be ruled out completely. while the 'single dose' cap containing 1-2 mgs sounds pretty absurd, a 6 mg dose, on the other hand, could possibly affect a sensitive user quite strongly. any other info on the experience of the friend who compared 6 mgs to 3.5 grams of cubensis? swim does think it's really unlikely that the compound is 2c-e, and agrees that it is probably best just to toss it and forget about it, but just wanted to point out that 2c-e is one of the more potent and volatile of the 2c series. as everyone is different, many people can take 15-20 mgs as a normal dose, however swim believes pihkal reports some people having overwhelming experiences with at little as 10 mgs.

[Arecibo]

2C-E is a powerful chemical but SWIM thinks that 6mg is not enough to induce a response "similar in substance and intensity to 3.5g of strong cubensis" (even if SWIM don't have tried cubensis).

Moreover, SWIM has tasted 2C-E and has lived a 10 hours experience, in which there was a blue hue.
But it was with a 10mg dose and the 2C-E dose-response relation is nonlinear (theorically, 60% of this dose would have produce less than 60% of these effects).

Finally, in SWIM's memories, 2C-E powder was white, not yellow.


So, SWIM thinks that your powder is probably not 2C-E.
Anyway, 2C-E or not, SWIY have no way to identify this powder, it would be safer for SWIY to not use it.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by Arecibo

2C-E is a powerful chemical but SWIM thinks that 6mg is not enough to induce a response "similar in substance and intensity to 3.5g of strong cubensis" (even if SWIM don't have tried cubensis).

Moreover, SWIM has tasted 2C-E and has lived a 10 hours experience, in which there was a blue hue.
But it was with a 10mg dose and the 2C-E dose-response relation is nonlinear (theorically, 60% of this dose would have produce less than 60% of these effects).

Finally, in SWIM's memories, 2C-E powder was white, not yellow.


So, SWIM thinks that your powder is probably not 2C-E.
Anyway, 2C-E or not, SWIY have no way to identify this powder, it would be safer for SWIY to not use it.

the powder can be an off white color....almost everytime my friend's dog has gotten 2c-e, it has been an yellowish color

[Alfa]

We do not know what it was, as it is not possible to ID a substance over the internet.