Health - how bad is k for SWIM's nose?

[ALI__]

SWIM is a regular ketamine user. SWIM takes up to half a gram on the weekend every other weekend or every weekend, as well as sometimes taking a few lines on a weekday. Except, during the summer SWIM has been taking it most days of the week, going through about 2 or 3 grams a month.


How quickly does ketamine wear down the middle part of the nose? They have heard it's not nearly as bad as cocaine or mdma, is this true? Which is the worst?


ps - SWIM will soon be moving back to most weekends plus one weekday from time to time now summer is over.

[chillinwill]

I might be wrong and excuse me if I am but hasn't this question been posted already by you in 2 other sections including the coke/crack section? Since they generally are talking about the same idea, I believe these threads should be merged

[enquirewithin]

The effects of cocaine and ketamine on the nose will not be quite the same. Probably ketamine is less corrosive than cocaine. Ketamine doesn't have the same reputation for damaging the septum as cocaine, although it can't be good for it judging by how much it is said to hurt! Possibly most heavy ketamine users inject it intramuscularly as that's how it designed to be administered.

[Nature Boy]

Ketamine isn't as corrosive generally because it's easier to access cleaner batches than the type of cocaine most people use. Cocaine can be mixed down with almost anything including chemicals that aren't fit to clean the dirtiest of kitchens. MDMA is a flakey substance that isn't ideally suited for snorting. It seems too glassy to be enjoyed in that way.

[ALI__]

Originally Posted by chillinwill

I might be wrong and excuse me if I am but hasn't this question been posted already by you in 2 other sections including the coke/crack section? Since they generally are talking about the same idea, I believe these threads should be merged

yeah sorry i wasn't sure which to put it in

and thanks everyone
hopefully my nose won't fall out
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[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by ALI__

yeah sorry i wasn't sure which to put it in

and thanks everyone
hopefully my nose won't fall out
..

its all good man...it takes a while to get adjusted here on DF

[PingoTango]

My typist snorts K pretty relentlessly - he reports no nose damage other than occasional blockage, which is easily remedied with off the shelf nasal decongestant.

[Wierd Logic]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Ketamine isn't as corrosive generally because it's easier to access cleaner batches than the type of cocaine most people use. Cocaine can be mixed down with almost anything including chemicals that aren't fit to clean the dirtiest of kitchens. MDMA is a flakey substance that isn't ideally suited for snorting. It seems too glassy to be enjoyed in that way.

Monkey doesn't know what kind of MDMA swiy has been getting, but with a little crushing and carding Monkeys MDMA has always been fine (if pretty painful) to snort.

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by chillinwill

its all good man...it takes a while to get adjusted here on DF

It's perfectly valid to have a separate threads for sniffing cocaine and ketamine. They are very different drugs.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Don't forget that cocaine constricts the blood vessels in your nose(and your whole body), so less blood gets to your nose. Snorting K probably isn't AS hard on your nose, and it'd probably be a lot easier to go through coke than special K. Swim is has never seen of it where he lives, and most people there haven't heard of it.

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[methyl_amigo]

SWIM sniffs around 2g a day, probably more on weekends. SWIM's tolerance is relatively high, they have had some trouble with nose bleeds and pain, generally from snorting uncrushed, uncooked crystal. However, usually the only problem they encounter is, after having one or two lines, their nostril becomes too blocked to allow anything up there.
SWIM would not recommend using the other side when this happens, unless you want to have a permanently blocked nose. Also, using their "clean" nostril seems to hurt a lot more. One would probably assume that some kind of scab or hard tissue has formed inside their regular nostril, acting like a callous.
As for a "hole" they haven't noticed any signs of one yet and SWIM has been enjoying ketamine for over a year.

I hope this helps.

[rxbandit]

ditto on nosebleeds, mostly with uncrushed crystals. Swirx thinks deviated septum is likely if done frequently but can't quantify that.

[Scrubbs]

Swim don't know, but knows for damn sure that K hurts the nose waaaayy worse than coke. And this was pure K too, SWIM dried it out himself and everything.

[BumpBump]

just get a solid round object, i.e can of deoderant and roll it over the sealed bag... hey presto no more crystals and no powder lost

[jesusbeams]

Originally Posted by BumpBump

just get a solid round object, i.e can of deoderant and roll it over the sealed bag... hey presto no more crystals and no powder lost

Agreed.
Though swim has found a lot of the time it's whatever powder ket is cut with will make the burn.

Swim takes his herb grinder and rolls it over his line to make it into a fine powder before snorting, and this makes it go up very very nicely.

Swim will NEVER snort ket if there are sharp crystals, they must be crushed up as much as possible. This is how you avoid most of the pain and the damage to your nose.

[tonimarie]

SWIM uses about half an once of ket a week, and her nose bleeds and scabs form inside.
It sometimes hurts when she snorts ket, but she mostly gets severe pain (burning which makes her eyes water) when she wakes up on a mornign after having a lot of ket the night before.

Anyone know why this could be? x

[wwwmwww]

maybe its just dry. try puttin some aloe or some lotion

[Djvr16]

SWIM has a heavy habit of usually 1g-4g a day. Depending on the setting decides how much is used.

Mainly stays at 2g a day however. SWIM has been using everyday for nearly a year, has taken a month break, and a few other week long breaks (voluntarily). On that note, even after the month long break the tolerance had not gone down at all which is saddening.

As for nose damage. My thoughts, yes it will damage wherever it is in a consistant manner, but for SWIM it seems there is a different, subconsious way of sniffing for the right nostril opposed to the left. SWIM's right nostril has considerable damage, there is an actual indentation right above the brim. It is likely it stays like that because SWIMs nose is blown all the time, and whenever it scabs over....it's blown and picked out...OUCH!!!

The reason I say maybe SWIM has a different method of sniffing for each side is the angle of insufflation. Maybe the left side the k is sniffed straight up, rather than at a side angle hitting the side of the passage. It seems the left side has no noticeable damage, compared to the right side has a hole.....

Nose bleeds have NEVER occured though. Not once, which is surprising.

[tstks]

SWIM has also found that there has been little (if any) bleeding. But there is pain, usually on a morning. Probably because as mentioned, it is probably dry. Even if SWIM doesn't take ket for a few days, her nose is still hurting on a morning for anything up to 5 days after her last line of ket.

SWIM is currently on a break from k (not had any since Sunday so only 2 days) but it is not voluntarily. SWIM has been hospitalised 3 times, one kidney infection and twice with recurring gastritis and gallstones.


Had the camera down the throat a while ago, SWIM has to go back for the results in August. Been prescribed Omaprazole, Paracetamol, Peptic liquid and codeine.

Suffers from a dull pain in the stomach which can go to severe pain in a few hours and constant back ache. If SWIM has even a little bit of ket the pain gets worse pretty quickly.

SWIM is a hardcore ket user, using about 3-4g a day snorted. This pain is the only thing that scares her enough to stop using for a few weeks. Even the fact one of her friends has a piss bag fitted isn't enough to stop her. (Sorry don't know how to spell the proper word for the urine bag - cathater??)


Hoping that having a few weeks break will lower tolerance but from what SWIM's heard doesn't have high hopes.

[yaniczka]

Originally Posted by BumpBump

just get a solid round object, i.e can of deoderant and roll it over the sealed bag... hey presto no more crystals and no powder lost

hello. swim just wonders-if ishe crushes the crystals, won´t the material loose its potency? thks.

[Sameria]

No, it will not lose its potency.

Infact, if anything, you will have a small (wether or not it is noticable is debatable) increase in potency due to increased absortion into the mucus membrane in the nose.

Crush it up as small as is humanly possible.

[yaniczka]

Originally Posted by Sameria

No, it will not lose its potency.

Cool! Thanks a lot for an answer

[Sameria]

Originally Posted by yaniczka

Cool! Thanks a lot for an answer

No worries. Happy tripping

SWIM has also found that smaller particles cause much less discomfort to the nose. Its a win/win scenario.