Too many DXM trips? I need some help. : (

[Katiii]

This is for serious intelligent posts. I'm not looking for your way out-there fucked up story about when u took 64 pills and had a safari in your living room.I need to talk to people who feel dxm has possibly seriously messed with the way you think, scares you to death sometimes. Maybe your dreams have really begun to freak you out? Is paranoia occuring with u when your observing others? What the fuck are all of these theories i am coming up with about reality?

[unico_walker]

I'll answer you without sarcasm because I give you the benefit of the doubt.

You are experiencing the classic psychedelic experience, my
recommendation is to go with it and document your theories and ride
them out.

You may be very very close to a personal breakthrough in the way you
see the universe and humanity, or it may be a drug induced dead end in
your personal evolution only time will tell.



Don't deny it, and don't attempt to hide from the revelations you experience.

We would all progress faster if we just got past the initial stage of wanting to cling to the old comfortable beliefs sooner.

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Just don't end up naked at the top of a clocktower with a rifle picking off the infected.

[hippie_lain]

Katii i think i know what your talking about. No offense to unico but DO NOT go with it. Anyway fisrt it was great but eventuallyDXM starting getting really werid. I for a while i was taking 900mg without any bad effects but after a year my trips got werid. The good feeling and high was gone replaced with just weirdness and i got really hot.The last time i drank on it and saw stuff the next day for a while and didnt feelright. In the end it made me paranoid in the same way, oberserving people and....other things. I can say for a fact dxm has fucked up my brain. Id say just quit and right now. DXM can burn out certain centers in the brain, which might result in paranoia or "insights" that you are having(i had many of them). Also my friends dad is a scientistand did lots of research on DXM cause of his wife. He sad it can cause demintia(basically adownward sprial into madness), and his X-wife now is crazy because of it. She did take it every day for years but it still...SoPLEASE do yourself a favor a quit, DXM is very damagingon you in the long run.

[unico_walker]

Sorry I may have misread the parent post, I read it that after some DXM trips he is now sober and still questioning.

I agree if you are still using stop for awhile at least til you're back to reality.

[Katiii]

i geuss i should have mentioned this, i have stopped doing dxm. i stopped about 9 months ago. havent even looked at the shit. and actually, what i am experiencing isnt exactly scaring me. im more interested. i have had out of body experiences. i have really had some fucked up things happen to me. the person i am doing this research for is my boyfriend. hes done it far longer and more than i have. it used to be an every night thing for him. these things wetalk about is one of the main things that make us the closest. these things we think about, it seems there is no one like us. this is all a dream, or were in some fucking movie we dont even realize. i realized that this could either be a physical problem, or we both have opened up parts of our brain tounderstand more than others. i first started worrying when we had just stepped out of a theatre. there was people going to and from the building to their cars etc. he had that well known deep thought look on his face again. he asked me if i was setting him up. he was worried everyone was out to get him for something. i was part of some big secret against him. he asked me why everyone looked at him like he had a hole in his head. i looked around. everyne was looking. if thereis a group, like a family or something, at least one person looks. ive now take notice to it. people do look. its not just him, its also me. theway they look is distinct. i could only describe it as creepy. i think back to the days b4 i ever even tried dxm and realizei have entered something different. this world is not the same. i am not the same. i wouldnt say were crazy because he is one of the most intelligentpeople i know. i take these thoughts i have and put them into songs. i have found a source of creative power. What is this? the reason i need info and help is because my bf is having black and white dreams. hes afraid to go to sleep. he has died on dxm b4. he thought he was hit by a car.now he isnt sure if it happened or not. i know hes alive, but he was so sure he died. that was the last time we ever did it. we only did it twice together. he experiences deja vu all the time.its not just that "feeling", he predicts what someone will say. what is this place? i sound soloony, but now, even just smoking weed is completely transforming. i dont know what answers im looking for. just someone like us i geuss.

[thydarkprevails]

i am not a dxm user, i've done it a handful of times, it's not my thing...various rc's, lsd, and mushrooms have been a staple in my life for a long time...rc's being most recent....in the last couple years, and more specifically since the new year started i have grown more paraniod about life, I believe the government moniters our cellular phone conversations, some of our online discussions, and if you are in public, speak quietly, you never know who is around...i have also become overly paranoid about mass conspiricy..this goes further than jfk and the grassy knoll...i believe the attack on america on 9 11 was a complete farce by the united states government, and osama bin laden is, in fact, a plant by the government...he has been with us all along, which is why he is not dead, despite numerous chances in the 90's. I think they did this to keep a sense of fear in Americans. Many of us are getting very liberal, and trying to gain new freedoms, and the government does not want that..they want us to be uniformed, so why not cause a war and scare us into being patriotic? I also believe that the entire ADD ritilan/adderal movement since the 90's is a conspiracy. People with ADD do not focus, instead they think...thats right, many of them become incredibally creative..the government does not want that, they want conformity, free thinkers are BAD..so "behavior control drugs" are just another lie, just as ADD is..in reality certian people are eccentric and free thinkers, and that is not accecptable in american society. I will not bore you with more ranting on my beliefs, but as far as how i feel, afraid or not....i feel enlightned. I am glad this knowledge is developing in my head, for I am able to realize what has always been accecpted is actually wrong. I embrace these thoughts, and I am thankful that I am becoming enlightned.

[Iggypoop]

katiii: is your boyfriend still taking dxm or any other drug? If so get him off them now!


thydarkprevails: i think you are getting just a little bit over-paranoid there, dont get me wrong a little paranoia is a good thing andcan go a long way.I dont thinkbig brother is watching us allthat closely, yet..... Howeveronce we all get veri-chipped it'll be a different story! I can see where you are coming from with the add thing tho, its definitely a 'behaviour control drug' and i dont agree with that at all.

[hippie_lain]

Alot of what your bf is going through i have had before, I will give you VERY IMPORTANT ADVICE. The more you belive in this world the more it will become your reallity. Look at my post called mind games(use the search feature) this is why i went though and still im going through this "different world". Its all in your head, the more you think about it, the more it will become your reality. I hope you dont have friends like mine.

[thatsall]

katii i know how u feel. i had a few frightening trips which changed some reltionships with good friends. or maybe it didnt maybe i just thought it did because of the acid. but regaurdless i just tripped for the first timea few days agoon dxm and i had a breakthruogh on the world around me but as time goes i feel less in less in touch with myself. i actually am worried of everyone and everything feeling as if i am not the person i was years ago. i just wish i can have such mental clarity all the time . i also have the same exact problem so feel to send me a message.

[thatsall]

thy dark i love the add theory. i actually have adhd or do i? but anyways that what doc said when i was a youngster. i used to spit out the medicine because i didnt liked the way it made me feel. i felt as if i wasnt myself. i later on got on adderall in highschool cuz of trouble in school , but that had the same effect. recently i took in through my beak and did it for fun not because i was trying to better my life. i believe that theory though ! for sure!!!

[als5555]

katiii, i just hope that your bf doesn't do it ever again, or atleast for a couple of years. a good friend of mine had some serious habbits with dxm, he did it 2-3 times per week at 450-1gram doses. that went on for a year and a half. that started when he was 15 years old. by the time he was 16 he said that it made him feel like crap but he kept doing it because maybe he would get one good trip out of it still. then one night he had an experience where he was taken to hell and had his soul ripped from his body for his sins. he said it was absolutely real and the worst experience of his life.after that a few of us got him to stop (eventually with threats) and he didn't do it till he was 18. so about almost 2 years later he did a 600 mg dose and had a recall of his previous experience in hell. that was a year ago and he is still paranoid that he is being watched by hell. he has stayed completely clean since then, but says that he still has nightmares about it atleast 1 out of 3 nights. he says that he is getting better and that he has learned to deal with and confront his dreams while having them. the one thing that i notice about him is that his awareness about the world increased a thousand fold since that one bad dxm trip. in our circle of friends he is one of the smartest on and off drugs. as to answer your question, i bet there are people like you out there. i have often wondered the same about me. i will admit some of my thought processes are quite odd, and a lot of friends have understood them high. only a few get them sober, and the friend that had trouble with dxm is one of them.Edited by: als5555

[a-SalviaLover]

DXM surely played an improtant role in my life. An year ago I was doing regularly DXM - about once a week, but sometimes more often. It WAS freaking me out then, especially in combination with weed. My mind was cycling in a very interesting way. I sometimes got paranoid, but also had really great experiences. But then I somewhat mastered it. I started controlling the hallucinations making them do whatever I want and then it was a matter of time to get fed up with it. And in addition to this I was introduced to other psychedelics like Salvia and Shroomz. And stopped using DXM. Haven't tripped on DXM for more than 5 or 6 months now. In addition to this I have a considerable amount of Special K, which is of course incomparable to DXM, cause it doesn't affect the thinking so much. I use it mainly in combination with SAlvia, which is a realy great combo and it makes you want more and more of the two. It's strange. My avdvice is to use shroomz and other serotogenic psychedelics. For me they are the most interesting of them all.

[Diphenhydramine]

Yeah, ever since I finally took the plunge and really started experimenting with drugs two years ago, things have been very different for me.

Once in a great while I'll get intense waves of anti-social paranoia, where I can't even stand to be near my family, let alone friends or strangers. Just a mega feeling that people are trying to avoid me, and that it's best if I comply. It really sucks, but it only lasts a few days, and then I snap out of it. Sometimes it occurs as a result of a burnout from a binge, and sometimes it'll just happen if I start to jones/crave.

Besides that, I don't feel paranoid or anything else. I mean, yeah, sometimes the walls start breathing or corners start wandering around or my perspective will focus and unfocus randomly, and once in a great while I'll feel a small rush of euphoria or feel buzzed, for no reason at all, but I think those are normal side effects for those who "abuse" substances on a regular basis.
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[icecrew]

What does DXM compared to and how does it make you feel or think about??from what i read does it make u all creative and shit?

i did special-K before afew times goten into holes and did salvia
1nce..besides that i only fucked with alota pain killers and tried coke
so let me kno cuz this shit sounds interesting since im going to be a
graphic "DESIGNER" and all lol

[Diphenhydramine]

I dunno about dxm...I never hallucinate, it's just all sensations for
me. Sooooo, I don't think of it as making me more creative,
sometimes I write while I'm on it, because like ambien, it opens this
subconcious side of me and when I read my scribbles the next day, I
either laugh my ass off, am amazed, or have a really hard time
believing I wrote something like that.



Other drugs make me more creative, just because when I'm painting or
drawing, I'll definitely be more focused on detail or colour, and
see/be able to "translate" things much more clearly.

[mmmike28]

Katiii, I just started reading your post, didn't even read through all
of them but I have MUCH to say on this subject. I've researched
this area many times over and have a doctrine in the area of
psychology. LIsten to me. Your best bet, is to stay away
from DXM but learn from your experiences.

DXM is a very powerful drug and certain people are naturally more
psychic, having different parts of their brains opening. We are
at a time of human evolution and drugs like DXM seem to speed us this
evolution but at a dangerous speed. What you have seen or
felt on Dxm, if your spiritually open enough, is all true. I have
seen things I cannot imagine, but they all lead to peace and serenity
in the end. We are at a time in human history where we will
regain the use of our sixth sense, and thus be able to see things in a
forth dimensional world instead of a third dimensional world. The
entire cosmos are aligning to send strong loving vibrations down to
Earth, we are already in the process. This is what many prophets
have talked about, acient civilizations have pondered, and what our
government wants to hide.

If we as a people knew the "true reality" to which
we live in, we would learn we do not need things like government,
money, and laws. All we would need is ourselves, our innermost
selves. To people who have had breakthroughs in consciousness in
doing drugs, I ADVISE YOU, learn from it, and stop doing the
drug. What some of these drugs tell you are indeed true, but once
you know, you do not need a drug to get there.

[Diphenhydramine]

You're not making much sense to me. First you say that some people can have amazing breakthroughs on drugs.



Next you say to stop using that drug as soon as that happens. You
don't even explain why, just that it is "dangerous." So according
to this logic, once you open a door, close it and throw away the key,
and just try to remember what was on the other side.



Yes, if you are having a bad reaction or after-effect to a drug (or
that you percieve that it is bad), you should probably stay away from
it. However, this does not mean that ANY significant after/effect
should be interpretted as a sign to stop. Only the bad
ones. Please explain your reasoning further, perhaps I
misinterpreted you.



Katii, I was rereading your post about people "looking." Ever
since I started using dxm products, I will notice that I stare at
people's eyes sometimes. Like into their pupils. And this
is only with people I can connect to, aka other users of drugs.
Last time this happened was at a show where I went outside for a toke,
and one of the group members joined me. He was a complete acid
head. We talked for a bit about how the show seemed to be going,
and then we just stared at each other for about 10 minutes in
silence. Me, an 18 year old, and this 30 year old acid freak I
hardly knew. Weird.



And I also seem to notice (I know this seems REALLY strange) children
staring at me. Like anyone under the age of about 14, I will
often catch openly staring at me. And I'm not even outlandish
looking.

[mmmike28]

All I was saying that if someone thinks the drug is taking their mind
too far off of reality, to be cautious, sorry I didn't clarify.
The thing is, our lives are setup to keep certain things out, and to
never let us truly know what lies beyond the physical plane of
existence. Drugs can bring to you other planes of existence while
still being in a body that may/ may not be able to handle it.

The fact that one would question their way of life after doing a drug
is a positive sign, as that person is just expanding their mind.
Now if it were to be a negative view of the world that was being
percieved, then you should step back and stop using the drug.
Just be careful, thats all I meant to say.

[Diphenhydramine]

I like that perspective:



"The thing is, our lives are setup to keep certain things out, and to
never let us truly know what lies beyond the physical plane of
existence. Drugs can bring to you other planes of existence while
still being in a body that may/ may not be able to handle it."



That's a really good way of explaining mind-altering substances.
I mean, drugs have been described as gateways before, but I like the
way you worded that. I think of it as being more that we have
these doors already, but they are locked, and sometimes a substance is
the key we need. Therefor, we are able to travel beyond our
existence, but we just need some kind of catalyst ie kick in the pants.

[Sklander]

Originally Posted by Diphenhydramine

Yeah, ever since I finally took the plunge and really started experimenting with drugs two years ago, things have been very different for me.

Once in a great while I'll get intense waves of anti-social paranoia, where I can't even stand to be near my family, let alone friends or strangers. Just a mega feeling that people are trying to avoid me, and that it's best if I comply. It really sucks, but it only lasts a few days, and then I snap out of it. Sometimes it occurs as a result of a burnout from a binge, and sometimes it'll just happen if I start to jones/crave.

SWIM has the same symptoms. SWIM usually has these symptoms after a long night of drug use. Usually MDMA or an RC that kept me up all night.