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Old 29-08-2008, 19:19
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ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leukemia

My child has been seriously damaged by the drug ritalin. She has bone marrow failure and has now become blood transfusion dependent as her body is no longer producing enough blood cells for her to breathe. I believe it is just a matter of time until many more children and parents experience truths about these drugs that our government has been hiding for years. On my site there are others, other who are passed of leukemia, bone marrow failure, blood disorders, cancers, etc... Please share the site with others. A chemical holocaust is on the horizon, and it is an ADHD Drug Atrocity.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

My heart goes out to you, and others facing the horror of a sick child. I would like to know if you have access to any studies that back up what you have claimed here. If so - please post/link same. I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry would try to cover this up. But there must be a trail to a study or three on this matter.

Please provide us with further information. Thank you & good luck to you and yours.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

Hi Panther, there are sooo many links, it is too much to post, hence my website forum area...to which they will not let me post here (I'm less than 10 posts in).

YES, there is evidence if one reasons to see and understand it, hidden but available.

Go to the forum of ADHD Drug Atrocity and take a look....look for the comment on my site link and follow my most viewed post there.

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Ritalin contains Methanol, as does it's generic Methylphenidate, and sister drugs, Methylin, Metadate, Concerta, Focalin, etc,...

Adderall contains aspartate (aspartame)...

Aspartame releases aspartate during digestion. Aspartate is a neurotransmitter used by the neurons in the brain. It is a type of excitatory amino acid.(Excitotoxin that excites the cells to death)

Aspartame contains METHANOL, a serious metabolic poison. The body converts it to formaldehyde (embalming fluid) and formic acid (ant sting poison) both of which attack your central nervous system and every organ of your body

Cytogenetic effects (changes in DNA) have been shown to result from FORMALDEHYDE exposure and DNA damage occurs from FORMALDEHYDE. The nature of the injury generally involves breaking and then creation of cross linking within the genetic material which alters the cells.

This finding has been confirmed numerous times and the DNA-protein-cross-links are believed to cause cancers in experimental animals. Changes in the genetic material is associated with cancer production in humans. The ability of Aspartame to cause cellular mutations has been shown through studies by Shephard, et al. There are increases in malignant brain tumors suggested to be associated with aspartame use. FORMALDEHYDE is a known stimulant for cancer and genetic damage in the cell.

The toxicity of methanol is enhanced by its slow rate of oxidation — only 1/7 that of ethyl alcohol — occurring mainly in the liver and kidneys. The body attempts to detoxify methyl alcohol by oxidizing it to formaldehyde (a deadly neurotoxin and Class A carcinogen), and then to formate or formic acid within minutes.

Formate and formaldehyde each may contribute to toxicity and nervous system/immune dysfunction through various mechanisms. One is the conjugation of formaldehyde with human serum albumin (F-HSA) to form a new antigenic determinant. Patients with multiple health complaints who had been exposed chronically to formaldehyde develop anti F-HSA antibodies and elevated Tal cells (antigen memory cells), consistent with sustained antigenic stimulation of the immune system.

Ritalin and sister drugs contain both Methanol and Polyethylene Glycol

Manufacturers knew just what it would take to slow down the realization of the toxicity in little children's bodies...but wait a few years, and we will have an epidemic of leukemic kids on our hands...


Acid-Base Physiology
8.6 Metabolic Acidosis due to Drugs and Toxins
Previous | Index | Next

8.6.1 Methanol poisoning
8.6.2 Ethylene glycol poisoning
8.6.3 Salicylate toxicity
8.6.4 Toluene toxicity
8.6.5 Overview of Toxic Ingestions

Several drugs and toxins have been implicated as direct or indirect causes of a high-anion gap metabolic acidosis (HAGMA). A consideration of these drugs needs to be included in an differential diagnosis of a HAGMA. The three most common ones to consider are methanol, ethylene glycol and salicylates. Other toxins which can cause acidosis are isopropyl alcohol and butoxyethanol. Toluene also causes an acidosis and the anion gap may be normal or elevated.

The acidosis caused by these toxins may sometimes present as a normal anion-gap hyperchloraemic acidosis so don't exclude the diagnosis in such a circumstance.

Co-ingestion of ethanol delays the metabolism of the more toxic methanol and ethylene glycol but can also delays the diagnosis. In this situation the osmolar gap will be even more elevated than can be explained by the measured ethanol level alone.

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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

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Ritalin contains Methanol
No it doesn't.

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Adderall contains aspartate (aspartame)
No it doesn't.

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Aspartame releases aspartate during digestion.
You just stated they were the same thing.

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Aspartame contains METHANOL
No it doesn't.

The rest of your post is based around arguments that pertain to formaldehyde's dangers, which aren't even relevant because there is no methanol in ritalin.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

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No it doesn't.
One of the metabolites of aspartame is methanol, so this is correct in a sort of roundabout way. Regardless, aspartame has nothing to do with methylphenidate.

I oppose the overprescription of drugs, especially stimulants, by doctors whose funding is tied to pharmaceutical companies, but adhddrugatrocity, your methodology here is frankly deplorable.

What you are doing is not scientific or even logical: it is using emotion to appeal to emotion. You are trying to convince people you are correct by associating psychoactives with the names of toxic substances, by scaring them into thinking that methylphenidate is a poison. This is ridiculous. Just because a particular solvent is used in the creation of a drug does not mean that the drug contains said solvent. Basic chemistry. Even I understand it.

The neurotransmitter serotonin contains a benzene ring as part of its molecular structure. Anyone who knows anything will also know that benzene is an extremely dangerous carcinogen. Does this mean that serotonin is carcinogenic? What about psilocin, dimethyltryptamine, dopamine, adrenaline and countless other organic compounds? You are using faulty logic. The methylphenidate molecule, if you look at it, doesn't resemble methanol in any way.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

Please back up your statements with scientific data or other substantial arguments.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

never mind, sorry

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No METHANOL in Ritalin eh?

Really?

Then I guess this explanation of production is a complete falsehood?

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METHYLPHENIDATE
(Trade Names: Ritalin- (IR, LA, and SR), Concerta, Metadate- (CD and ER),
Methylin- (IR and ER) and Focalin- (IR and ER))

Methylphenidate (d,l-threo-methyl-I -phenyl-2-piperidine-acetate hydrochloride) is a central nervous system stimulant

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Medeva (MD) Pharmaceuticals SIC 2834
Santa Ana

The primary product produced at this facility is methylphenidate hydrochloride, sold and distributed by the firm as tablets. Threo acid, an intermediate chemical, is also produced by the facility. Methylphenidate hydrochloride is a drug used to treat attention deficit disorder.


Process
Acetic acid, catalyst, and raw materials are charged into the first of several reactor vessels. Hydrogen gas is then added after air has been evacuated and the process mixture is heated to begin the hydrogenation reaction. Hydrogen is maintained in excess during the reaction. When the reaction is complete, the
mixture is cooled and transferred through a sealed pressure filter and into a second reactor vessel for acetic acid distillation which is then collected in another reactor. After the acetic acid is distilled from the reaction mixture, a solution of isomers of acetate salt remains and is transferred through a pressure filter and into another reactor. Sodium hydroxide is added and heat is applied to complete the conversion of the reaction mixture to threo acid sodium salt. After the converted product is cooled, the salt is collected via centrifugation. The recovered salt is then dissolved in water and the solution is neutralized with hydrochloric acid. The threo acid is then isolated using the centrifuge, rinsed with water and then dried in a fluid bed dryer. In final synthesis, methanol is added to a reactor along with the dried intermediate and hydrogen chloride. This mix is filtered as it is transferred to another reactor where additional methanol and hydrogen chloride is added. Heat is then applied. When the reaction is complete, the batch is cooled. Diethyl ether from another vessel is filtered and then added to complete the crystallization process. The chilled slurry is then filtered using a centrifuge and following this step the filtered material (cake) is washed with cold ethanol. The cake is then dried in a fluid bed dryer. Dried methylphenidate hydrochloride product is blended with other ingredients, formed into tablets and then packaged.

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My heart goes out to you, and others facing the horror of a sick child. I would like to know if you have access to any studies that back up what you have claimed here. If so - please post/link same. I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry would try to cover this up. But there must be a trail to a study or three on this matter.

Please provide us with further information. Thank you & good luck to you and yours.

Hi Panthers 007, I can't post the link as the drug forum here won't let me as I don't have 10 posts yet and can't post links, but if you email me at ritalindanger@yahoo.com i will.

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No METHANOL in Ritalin eh?

Really?

Then I guess this explanation of production is a complete falsehood?

WRONG!




METHYLPHENIDATE
(Trade Names: Ritalin- (IR, LA, and SR), Concerta, Metadate- (CD and ER),
Methylin- (IR and ER) and Focalin- (IR and ER))

Methylphenidate (d,l-threo-methyl-I -phenyl-2-piperidine-acetate hydrochloride) is a central nervous system stimulant

excerpt only… FROM PAGE 50

Medeva (MD) Pharmaceuticals SIC 2834
Santa Ana

The primary product produced at this facility is methylphenidate hydrochloride, sold and distributed by the firm as tablets. Threo acid, an intermediate chemical, is also produced by the facility. Methylphenidate hydrochloride is a drug used to treat attention deficit disorder.


Process
Acetic acid, catalyst, and raw materials are charged into the first of several reactor vessels. Hydrogen gas is then added after air has been evacuated and the process mixture is heated to begin the hydrogenation reaction. Hydrogen is maintained in excess during the reaction. When the reaction is complete, the
mixture is cooled and transferred through a sealed pressure filter and into a second reactor vessel for acetic acid distillation which is then collected in another reactor. After the acetic acid is distilled from the reaction mixture, a solution of isomers of acetate salt remains and is transferred through a pressure filter and into another reactor. Sodium hydroxide is added and heat is applied to complete the conversion of the reaction mixture to threo acid sodium salt. After the converted product is cooled, the salt is collected via centrifugation. The recovered salt is then dissolved in water and the solution is neutralized with hydrochloric acid. The threo acid is then isolated using the centrifuge, rinsed with water and then dried in a fluid bed dryer. In final synthesis, methanol is added to a reactor along with the dried intermediate and hydrogen chloride. This mix is filtered as it is transferred to another reactor where additional methanol and hydrogen chloride is added. Heat is then applied. When the reaction is complete, the batch is cooled. Diethyl ether from another vessel is filtered and then added to complete the crystallization process. The chilled slurry is then filtered using a centrifuge and following this step the filtered material (cake) is washed with cold ethanol. The cake is then dried in a fluid bed dryer. Dried methylphenidate hydrochloride product is blended with other ingredients, formed into tablets and then packaged.

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Hi Panthers 007, I can't post the link as the drug forum here won't let me as I don't have 10 posts yet and can't post links, but if you email me at ritalindanger@yahoo.com i will.

You know nothing about chemistry do you? You just found an article on chemistry, but you don't have basic chem knowledge. Or did you not even bother to read it? Methanol is being used as a solvent, it is not in the final product. Additionally, they do a wash with ethanol. Do you really think they add methanol to the pill? Your posts are quite ignorant.

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If that bothers you, then your a person who wants to mince words a bit. The claim that they are not stimulants is only a half truth, so I choose to call it false. Again, that is only a half truth. They claim they are not stimulants, BUT they are in fact stimulants, not in the same way as the old stimulants, but in a different and round a'bout way, they are.

So, I guess that makes everything else on the forum false? Wrong again.
So you are half-lieing?

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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

my 19 year old daughter was diagnosed with idiopathic AA in May 08. She started taking Concerta around the age of 11, then was switched, due to sleep issues, to Ritilan around the age of 16. She started treatment with cyclosporin/dapsone on Aug 6,2008, will be getting her 7th rbc transfusion tomorrow + platlets. In a week she will be getting her 4th bone marrow biopsy. the doctor is now not 100% sure of the diagnosis. I have always thought the Ritilan had something to do with this,but doctors say no. Hope your child is doing well now, mine isn't yet, but I'm hoping. nhs


My daughter took concerta for 10 days and ended up in ICU with a worse case of ITP. It took 8 months and $80,000 to cure her but it is unknown if it will not come back. The doctors at the hospital said that there is no link between the medication and ITP. I see they were wrong or lied to me to protect the manufacturer. One more day and my daughter would be dead.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

i think more people would be willing to listen if you had more proof of all of this and didn't just copy and paste information all willy nilly trying to proof your point
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

While I cannot imagine what you are going through, I think spreading false information about these drugs is counter-productive.
On your website you state
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Stattera(atomoxetine) is actually an SNRI, not a stimulant. The fact that they come as salts is largely irrelevant.

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If that bothers you, then your a person who wants to mince words a bit. The claim that they are not stimulants is only a half truth, so I choose to call it false. Again, that is only a half truth. They claim they are not stimulants, BUT they are in fact stimulants, not in the same way as the old stimulants, but in a different and round a'bout way, they are.

So, I guess that makes everything else on the forum false? Wrong again.
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If that bothers you, then your a person who wants to mince words a bit. The claim that they are not stimulants is only a half truth, so I choose to call it false. Again, that is only a half truth. They claim they are not stimulants, BUT they are in fact stimulants, not in the same way as the old stimulants, but in a different and round a'bout way, they are.

So, I guess that makes everything else on the forum false? Wrong again.
I am not trying to start an argument, but in nearly all ADHD stimulants they state that it is a stimulant multiple times throughout the documentation. I really don't think there was any question as to whether or not they are stimulants.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

yeah, just because methanol was used in production doesn't mean there's methanol in the pills. methanol is a liquid anyways.
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Re: ADHD & Ritalin drugs are causing ITP, Bone Marrow Failure, Aplastic Anemia, Leuke

You think you know it all don't you milkman? Typical. I'm met your type on nearly every board and forum known to the internet. So the bonemarrow of these kids is just shutting down for no apparent reason right? Get a clue. I'm done on this site. I have soooo much better things to do with my time than argue the topic at hand. But for the record, here are two additional stories (not mine) of types of bone marrow failure, genius. And they are only a drop in the bucket to what we'll see futuristically. Other parents over and above these two contact me too, the stories of these children are coming in with ITP, aplastic anemia, and leukemia.

Since your so smart, why don't you figure out why these kids are slowing dying. Why their cells are undergoing erradic slow cellular death (programmed cell death), why their bonemarrows are becoming empty of red, white and platelets, requiring transfusions of red blood cells and platelets, which is only a bandaid on a very serious blood problem? Your the ignorant. Step-off. Or maybe you could figure all this out since YOU are so very smart? I've got a sick child to deal with and parents to warn/educate. What prey tell are you doing with your life?

Pakistan, as well as Mexico produces a lot of the generic methlphenidate. China, the basic chemicals on more and more RX drugs. I suppose all is well here too?

What did you dream the next night? Oh never mind, don't bother responding, I won't be back to read it. You'll be wasting your keystrokes, except to "chance" saving face with your peers.

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You think you know it all don't you milkman? Typical. I'm met your type on nearly every board and forum known to the internet. So the bonemarrow of these kids is just shutting down for no apparent reason right? Get a clue. I'm done on this site. I have soooo much better things to do with my time than argue the topic at hand. But for the record, here are two additional stories (not mine) of types of bone marrow failure, genius. And they are only a drop in the bucket to what we'll see futuristically. Other parents over and above these two contact me too, the stories of these children are coming in with ITP, aplastic anemia, and leukemia.

Since your so smart, why don't you figure out why these kids are slowing dying. Why their cells are undergoing erradic slow cellular death (programmed cell death), why their bonemarrows are becoming empty of red, white and platelets, requiring transfusions of red blood cells and platelets, which is only a bandaid on a very serious blood problem? Your the ignorant. Step-off. Or maybe you could figure all this out since YOU are so very smart? I've got a sick child to deal with and parents to warn/educate. What prey tell are you doing with your life?

Pakistan, as well as Mexico produces a lot of the generic methlphenidate. China, the basic chemicals on more and more RX drugs. I suppose all is well here too?

What did you dream the next night? Oh never mind, don't bother responding, I won't be back to read it. You'll be wasting your keystrokes, except to "chance" saving face with your peers.

No, I actually know very little compared to many on this board. While I know a GREAT deal more than the average joe, I don't think that's a comparison. What I do know, is that when you try and get a study/experiemnt to prove your point, and your own study/experiemnt actually proves you wrong, it is quite a kick in the pants.

I am sorry for what is happening to your child, but I doubt methylphenidate is the cause. You argued that it was the methanol in the pills, but it's apparent that methanol ISN'T in the pills. The thing is, that methylphenidate is most likely a convenient excuse, a scapegoat, a way to rationalize.

So now it's the generic version of ritalin that is causing the problems? Or is the contaminants that are causing the problems? Get your story straight. Stop trying to connect dots that don't exist.


Actually, I will be studing to be a biochemist. What are you trying to do? Spread misinformation.


Nice troll job btw.

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my 19 year old daughter was diagnosed with idiopathic AA in May 08. She started taking Concerta around the age of 11, then was switched, due to sleep issues, to Ritilan around the age of 16. She started treatment with cyclosporin/dapsone on Aug 6,2008, will be getting her 7th rbc transfusion tomorrow + platlets. In a week she will be getting her 4th bone marrow biopsy. the doctor is now not 100% sure of the diagnosis. I have always thought the Ritilan had something to do with this,but doctors say no. Hope your child is doing well now, mine isn't yet, but I'm hoping. nhs


My daughter took concerta for 10 days and ended up in ICU with a worse case of ITP. It took 8 months and $80,000 to cure her but it is unknown if it will not come back. The doctors at the hospital said that there is no link between the medication and ITP. I see they were wrong or lied to me to protect the manufacturer. One more day and my daughter would be dead.
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So if I start taking a multivitamin and get diagnosed with cancer a week later, does that mean that the multivitamin caused my cancer?

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Methanol isn't in those pills. My brother was on ritalin for years and is perfectly healthy. As are millions of people who have been prescribed them. Strattera isn't a stimulant either. The darn thing doesn't even work for the first couple months you use it! And most of swim's friends who've taken it said it made them feel sick. Just becasue your daughter is having health problems doesn't mean you can blame it on the medicine you let her take. as a child. There is no science to how adderall or any stimulant I'm aware of would cause bone marrow problems. I am sorry to hear about her health though. This is worse than blaming McDonalds for people getting fat...
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Both aspartame and methylphenidate break down in the body the exact same way, into formaldehyde creating formate and formic acid, further, creating acidosis, which is the foundation of all disease.

Since you guys are so smart, why don't you quit trying to disprove things, and start trying to prove things. For instance, why don't 'you' tell us how these drugs are causing blood cell diseases and blood cancers in the young, and maybe then, you'll have my ear?

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Both aspartame and methylphenidate break down in the body the exact same way, into formaldehyde creating formate and formic acid, further, creating acidosis, which is the foundation of all disease.

Since you guys are so smart, why don't you quit trying to disprove things, and start trying to prove things. For instance, why don't 'you' tell us how these drugs are causing blood cell diseases and blood cancers in the young, and maybe then, you'll have my ear?
^^IMO, I don't think anyone is trying to disprove anything. All I see is someone who had some misfortune and is trying to PROVE that something caused her daughter's unlucky event. IMO, I think that you can try and say whatever you want about methylphenidate, but until YOU have evidence (medically documented evidence) that methylphenidate causes this, then why shouldn't we try to disprove all these claims. I have seen the website that you have posted but that is medically backed up evidence and facts. We are truly sorry this happened to your daughter but it could be because another reason and not methylphenidate.

Also, methylphenidate doesn't contain aspartame, it contains Phenylalanine, which is a component of aspartame. (I can link to the website that this is on but its on a .gov website so I'm not sure if I am allowed to link to this on here.

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Aspartame is only mentioned as it breaks down in the same form and mannerism as does ritalin/methylphenidate. I am aware of the phenylalanine and that it is a component of aspartame, especially when they want to use it in products but don't want to have to identify aspartame, at any rate, the website details all this. I'm sorry I don't have time to argue for I have to prepare for the new year in which my daughter will likely take on one of the worst chemical treatments ever, to rid her body of the bone marrow failure that ritalin has caused.

Sidenote: I just found out that my brother's new girlfriend's son, also age 19 has become platelet transfusion dependent, he's been on ritalin since age 5. His red cell line doesn't seem to be effected like Bree's, but none the less....THERE IS SOMETHING IN THESE MEDS, AND IT IS VERY, VERY BAD NEWS.... so why don't you guys do something positive, and find out what it is, instead of telling me about chemistry. By the way, what exactly is your experience?

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Swim has been on concerta/adderall since highschool. He doesn't have any health problems.
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Red Rock's experience is that he has been on ritalin since he was in 2nd or 3rd grade and then moved to adderall when he was a junior in high school and he has experienced zero problems...Ritalin and Adderall have helped his ADHD tremendously.
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Both aspartame and methylphenidate break down in the body the exact same way, into formaldehyde creating formate and formic acid, further, creating acidosis, which is the foundation of all disease.
No, they don't. What evidence do you have for this? The fact that methanol is used in the synthesis of methylphenidate? This means nothing.

I could find absolutely nothing to suggest that methanol is a metabolite. I did, however, find this...

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Methylphenidate is primarily metabolized by de- esterification into the inactive ritalinic acid. The urinary elimination of ritalinic acid accounts for 60-80% of the administered methylphenidate dose. In therapeutic doses, the other inactive metabolites include: the de-esterified lactam (5-12% of the dose, p-hydroxymethylphenidate (1%), and unchanged drug (1%).
Everywhere else seems to corroborate this - that the primary metabolite of methylphenidate is ritalinic acid (phenyl(2-piperidinyl)acetic acid) and that methanol is not one of the others. Formaldehyde and formic acid do not result either.

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Since you guys are so smart, why don't you quit trying to disprove things, and start trying to prove things. For instance, why don't 'you' tell us how these drugs are causing blood cell diseases and blood cancers in the young, and maybe then, you'll have my ear?
But you have to prove to us that methylphenidate is causing disease and cancer in children. This is your claim so you must substantiate it with empirical proof - so far all you have is a bit of anecdotal evidence and sensationalist appeals to emotion.

We are not actively trying to disprove things but it is out duty to point out when people are wrong. You have wrong almost every step of the way and when you are told this you just lose the head.
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