Injecting - Injecting in wrist

[Junkhead23]

SWIM needs advice about where to aim (and where not to) in wrist. SWIM knows this is dangerous but others have done this with no problem. SWIMs veins are not visible at all which is the main problem. In SWIMs wrist they are clearly visible. SWIM has huge lumps from misses in crook of arm. Someone used to shoot SWIM but that is no longer possible. SWIM has been injecting in hands but cant get any blood in pin anymore. Please help

Junkhead23 added 1 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

Sorry for double post but if someone could point SWIM in right direction of how to find viable veins in other areas this would also be appreciated

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Nice avatar, if your still having problems with your veins, PM me and I'll help you on phone, Mothersuperior.

[MotherSuperior]

SWIM is sorry but fels if you have trouble going in the arm then gooing in the wrist will be very difficult. SWIM has done it a few times but remember failing a lot of the time. SWIM used a fine insulin syringe/needle. SWIM would say you may have an even better chance at getting a good vein in the hand then getting on at the wrist(SWIM assumes you mean just before it meets hand?). SWIM has some pretty high risk injection behavior going in the groin and neck through lack of other options but certainly if you are just now having problems getting a hit in the crook of the arm(in the radial vein) then would say your a long way fromwhere SWIM is and there are still plenty of places you might want to try. SWIm found one place(forgets the name of the vein) but it is a big vein underneath the arm, it is ackward trying to hit it but when done a few times it's easier.... anyway this vein for SWIM was best 'brought up' when SWIM rotated SWIMS elbows to face upwards then raised the arm towards the body... SWIM is suprised how many people overlook this vein before they goo onto other places and it lasted SWIM for ages(long gone now).

[Solinari]

The vein Mother Superior is describing is the best vein my fiend has on both arms but he very rarely uses it because it can be awkward to use, from searching it looks like it could be called the ulnar vein.

As for injecting in the wrist, the small vessels that are visible can be very difficult to inject in to and often result in a blown vein or a miss. The other danger there are the nerves and artery which is very close to the surface on both sides of the wrist. If at all possible, it is best to avoid the wrist completely but probably not in favour of the groin which i can't advise against strongly enough.

Apart from the risk of hitting the unbelievably large femoral artery and nerve, using the femoral vein regularly can cause serious problems and in all likely hood a miss and infection will happen eventually, this puts your legs and more sensitive areas at risk. My late friend used his groin all the time, he used it so often he literally had a hole from the skin to the vein, it was the only injection site he had. The inevitable happened and he got an infection, apparently he was injecting one day with another friend (i hadn't seen him in years) and he stuck the needle in the hole and drew back, he registered puss, he readjusted, hit the vein and injected it. The infection got so bad that his balls were suppose to be black, i think he did recover from this but he did die some months later, i am not sure what killed him in the end.

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[Junkiebaddypowder]

swim has used the wrist, but it took a little bit of training. the best way that swim found was to use the smallest needle possible and swiy would have to slide the needle perfectly inside the vein like swiy was doing a hospital iv. as long as the tip of the needle is fully incased by the vein walls then it should be pretty easy. to better explain what swim means..... if the needle is all the way under the skin and the plastic that the needle is incased in is flush with the skin. if swiy can have the plastic flush with the skin while knowing the needle is fully inside the vein swiy should be good to go.... swim thinks it best to go somewhat slow though becuase just slamming it really fast can cause it to burst which can have a weird hurt and a horrible itch to it afterwards. after swiy is done swiy should apply good pressure to the area for a few minutes to prevent bruising and the vein collapsing after the fact which this area is much more succeptible to. its best to stay as far away from the middle as possible.


does swiy not have any more options in swiys forearm?



what about if swiy lays his arm straight out in front of swiy on a table with the palm of the hand up. then bend and grab swiys shoulder and there are some really goodones near the middle there but they are very awkward to get to... swim is not sure if thats what the previous posters meant.

good luck and swim hopes swiy avoids busted veins briuses and painful bubbles


oohhh one more really good place swim just remembered is the side of the wrist right under the wrinkles where the hand and wrist meet on the pinky side. swim has two there one towards the front and one towards the back... they are about a half inch apart maybe less



good luck!

[Junkhead23]

He many thanks for the replies. SWIM been going in hand lately but this obviously not a good place to go. SWIM found those veins at the side of the wrist and they are a really good place to go and dont seem as painful as going in the wrist below the pal of your hand.

many thanks

[Spyder]

swiS knows that swiY already have heard this many times...BUT....Be careful with those shot's in the wrist.

SwiS's "Money Spot" was on his wrist. At some point....he started having trouble finding it (was always almost instant!), then more difficult, then 1 day......don't know why...swiS shot in this same spot, felt some pain and within' about 2 hours his hand was 2x larger than normal......

Took about 1-2 weeks to return to normal. After this, swiS tried to avoid this spot, but would often return due to frustration (very few visible veins). Over the next year or so, this Painful Hand Swelling happened several times. Now, that vein is totally gone.

S

PS: Just one other comment.....When swiY are in an artery, often the plunger is much more difficult to push down, and sometimes, the blood will 'force' itself into the syringe. Didn't see this info in the thread yet, thought swiS would toss it in there.

[olduncle]

There are some good pictures about how to do this on the web. A google search using terms like 'cooking', 'MS', and 'Contins' might result in a detailed how-to.

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	Why not share the information rather than telling the OP to use Google?
	Good point, pic is worth a 1000 words!

[olduncle]

Originally Posted by olduncle

There are some good pictures about how to do this on the web. A google search using terms like 'cooking', 'MS', and 'Contins' might result in a detailed how-to.

Whoever smacked me with bad reputation points for the above reply ("why didn't you just post the link") should know that there is a rule against posting links to other forums. I thought I might get spanked for walking the line, but not for not having the balls to cross it. I also figured that the photo sequence would be something our questioner could get some needed help by viewing, so the risk of a possible infraction was worth it.

Yeah, I'm new here and yeah I haven't figured out yet how to be myself and still toe the line, but IMO anyone who has the authority to give dispense negative rep should know WTF the rules are.

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	good point
	don't sweat it man, just carry on ;)
	ahem

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by olduncle

Whoever smacked me with bad reputation points for the above reply ("why didn't you just post the link") should know that there is a rule against posting links to other forums. I thought I might get spanked for walking the line, but not for not having the balls to cross it. I also figured that the photo sequence would be something our questioner could get some needed help by viewing, so the risk of a possible infraction was worth it.

Yeah, I'm new here and yeah I haven't figured out yet how to be myself and still toe the line, but IMO anyone who has the authority to give dispense negative rep should know WTF the rules are.

PM alfa and get him to review what you posted and the negative rep that was left and from what you have described, I'm sure he will take off the negative rep since at least to me, it doesn't seem like you broke any rules or anything

[Junkiebaddypowder]

Originally Posted by olduncle

Whoever smacked me with bad reputation points for the above reply ("why didn't you just post the link") should know that there is a rule against posting links to other forums. I thought I might get spanked for walking the line, but not for not having the balls to cross it. I also figured that the photo sequence would be something our questioner could get some needed help by viewing, so the risk of a possible infraction was worth it.

Yeah, I'm new here and yeah I haven't figured out yet how to be myself and still toe the line, but IMO anyone who has the authority to give dispense negative rep should know WTF the rules are.

Don't feel bad... someone smacked swim with bad rep points for using color.. heh it said "no pink please". Swim thought that was absolutly rediculous and pm'd sitbcknchill and it was taken care of... Swim thinks somebody is getting trigger happy with the rep points.... Hope swiy gets it fixed!

[On The Nod]

Yea a sick vein 4 swim was in the wrist, vertically below the thumb, at the side of the wrist were two veins (both arms) i could always hit, usually without needing a belt... However the two other sweet veins right at the elbow have become a nusiance to hit as swim thinks ive abused them too much, however theye still there if one looks hard...

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[txslammin]

as far as a great location swim knows that the vein on the top part of the bicep works great and easy to cover, and does not bruise hardly at all . and if swim were to use say a 27 gage needle and a 5cc syringe,,, someone would have no hole no bruise, and about 4 inches of really good tough vein????

[Aundrea]

ive used my hands and wrists ALOT almost got down to a perfection.... the outside of both hands have some big ones but like the left hand straight down the middle has one that runs straight to half way to your forearm. try that one. the right hand has one that follows the pinky up to the wrist then curves to the middle of your wrist. get the tourniquet and feel for them, theyre there cuz i use em to get high and i have to use em at work for blood draws.

[Spyder]

The biggest problem w/ these super good "Spots" is that eventually they go away!

SwiS can't tell how many spots he had that were perfect....for a good long time, but eventually...they go bad!

The worst is when swiY have been using one spot for a long time, are sick and try and all of a sudden the 'money spot' is now shit! So in a sick, shaking, fury one tries to quickly find a newer, better money spot.....SwiS always does, till the next time when it happens again..lol...nature of the 'game'..

S