Purity - What would Swiy do?

[fiveleggedrat]

So Swim has been holding onto about 5 or 6 pills for almost a year now.

Swim planned on doing them with a friend. They were from an unknown source. Swim is usually the test monkey, and always tests substances before others to isolate if they are safe.

Said Swim ate 1 of the pills, but nothing happened. Period.

Swim has never had an MDMA experience, or anything like it.

The question at hand is: What would Swiy do with the pills? Just keep them? Eat them? Toss them?

Could SOME of the pills be good? Swim has read how sometimes when buying bulk, some are fake and some are real. Originally, a bag of ten was purchased for a low price. A random, already intoxicated person said the beans were good, and worked. But Swim is unsure HOW fucked up they were, and on what. This was heresay carried over by a friend. They had purchased a share out of the ten bag of beans along with Swim, that's how they got some of them.

Swim is broke, and has no money for testing kits now.

Swim is not worried about eating dirty beans. He full on knows the risks.

Unimportant, but they are red/orange monkey faces, just for the sake of detail. Swim would post pics if he had a working camera.

[Richard_smoker]

hold onto, with plans to throw them away...pending a different financial situation when swiy can afford test kits...and even then, planning to throw them away, as the likelihood that any of them are real is nil. most likely: you got screwed & they're all shit.

or, swiy could always sell them BACK to the people who apparently enjoyed them-oh-so-much!

-DICK

[Abscond]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Said Swim ate 1 of the pills, but nothing happened. Period.

Soo they are duds... Toss em.

[fiveleggedrat]

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

Swim has read how sometimes when buying bulk, some are fake and some are real.

Quoting myself, that's why Swim does not outright toss 'em. MDMA and such are very rare in Swim's area, and Swim fears never being able to get any again. It is very important to Swim to try MDMA.

Swim cut himself out of the drug trade. Swim was going down a very bad road. He knows no one anymore, and the few he does have no relations or connections to his past.

Just to note in case no one saw, Swim is asking "What would YOU personally do if this situation happened to you"

Thank you both for the replies =]

[KomodoMK]

When SWIY tried it was SWIY taking any SSRI medication? Was SWIY under the influence of any other drug at the time or recently before taking the pill? SWIM would advise using a test kit or take another one.

This is why SWIM prefers MDMA crystals, much purer and cleaner than pills.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim was possibly under the influence of tramadol, which acts as an SSRI/SNRI at a previous time. Perhaps as soon the day before he ate the bean. Unsure, it was a year ago. Swim was completely sober when taking the pill. For at least 12 hours, for sure. Perhaps it was real and the SSRI effects of tramadol were persisting and preventing action?

Maybe Swim will eat one sometime to find out.

Swim would trip all over himself to get pure MDMA, even remotely pure MDMA is unheard of in Swim's area.

Everyone here knows 90% of the MDMA pills down here are fake or not MDMA at all. Not a huge market, too.

Perhaps in Tampa...But that's over 3 hours from Swim.

[fiveleggedrat]

I decided to update this so when others find it, they know what happened. Not bumping this for more posts!

Swim ended up taking 3 of the pills over 2 1/2 hours after getting no effects for a while. Around the 2 hour mark, Swim got effects matching up with PMA. Swim ended up having a panic attack, running 103 fever (thank god it was not higher), being unable to sleep, and generally feeling very sick and deathly for the next day. Swim was sure he was going to die from the nasty whatever it was in the pills. Swim was able to neutralize some of the 3rd pill and get them out quicker than normal, and reduce aftereffects with vitamins and minerals and etc. I have a whole thread on what happened under "PMA Overdose", in the search engine.

I know it makes no difference, But Swim says the pills were Red Monkeys from Orlando, Florida, bought in bulk.

[wespawloski]

Sigh...

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[aerozeppelin123]

Originally Posted by wespawloski

Red monkeys in Cali are pretty good I have been in that position once, It is best to just wait till your in a situation with scrubs you will never see again and pawn the bitches off. In my case I dont get much out of a single 'Good' MDMA pill, need at least 2 for a good roll and 3 for a great roll.

Ummm no...you don't sell pills that possibly contain PMA to people, regardless of whether you know the people or not. They could easily die. Can't believe anyone would suggest something so irresponsible and downright dangerous. The answer is quite simply to flush any remaining pills down the toilet and warn anyone who may buy that type of pill to steer clear of them. Oh and read the forum rules - self-incrimination is not allowed.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by wespawloski

Red monkeys in Cali are pretty good I have been in that position once, It is best to just wait till your in a situation with scrubs you will never see again and pawn the bitches off. In my case I dont get much out of a single 'Good' MDMA pill, need at least 2 for a good roll and 3 for a great roll.

Yeah i mean why would SWIY do this especially with something like MDMA....I know dealers and shit want to make money and shit but still to pass off a pill as MDMA and knowing its PMA is just dangerous and I hope someone will teach that person a lesson if that keeps up

[wespawloski]

SWIM would not have known it was PMA as it was not identified. If it was harmful SWIM would trash it, but perhaps its just a dose or drug that doesnt affect SWIM to an extent it supposidly effects others.

[aerozeppelin123]

Originally Posted by wespawloski

SWIM would not have known it was PMA as it was not identified. If it was harmful SWIM would trash it, but perhaps its just a dose or drug that doesnt affect SWIM to an extent it supposidly effects others.

Yeah but even if you didn't know it was PMA and just thought they were shit pills or 'duds', ripping someone off is still a really shitty thing to do...

[wespawloski]

SWIM agrees with you partially, except he would still push an argument that its not malicious. First, as he stated before, he has a notion that everyone's brain acts different but on the same principles. nausea, for example, only occurs in SWIM when he uptakes a grand amount of serotonin. SWIM might not vomit until 3x SWIR(random). That is inlayed into SWIM's makeup and experience. But yes SWIM would agree that he is somewhat evil in attempting to gain monetary retribution, but he has a mindset that its part of the trade. If SWIM gets semi bunk pills he likes to share, but he will inform said person of his true experiences with the pill. He has lost many a sale due to informing the potential recipient that his pills were, in recent example, 'methamphetamine bombs'. SWIM would not advertise his pills, he would present them as they are. If SWIM did get nothing but hardships out of said pill he would probably not try to sell them, he realizes this now :/ He has never been confronted with the issue, but only on an extreme would he trash the pills as he is greedy. He has a concept that it is part of the trade, but he realizes that he would never harm someone on purpose, as he feels a respect and trust toward anyone that handles drugs. He remembered his last buy and how he had no fear of getting ripped off.

[Greenport]

One can make the marquis reagent by mixing sulfuric acid and 40% formaldehyde solution together in a stoichiometric (don't remember the amounts) ratio. The colors formed should tell swiY what is in there if anything (decent).

Sulfuric acid is available as a drain cleaner, while formaldehyde can be found as formalin, for fish. More info can be found online about what the colors mean and the ratios and stuff

[Routemaster Flash]

If you don't have access to these chemicals, you can buy pill testing kits with chemicals that indicate the presence of MDMA, speed, aspirin and so on. Though I don't know how much they cost, it might not be worth it for the sake of half a dozen beans that are probably duds anyway. Though once you've bought a kit you can use it in future, of course.