Experiences - The TRUTH about Fluorotropacocaine...

[Richard_smoker]

Forgive me for starting a new thread for this post.

I would kindly ask that members please wait 'til you read it before you get mad and say that I should've posted it in another thread...

Suffice it to say that I think this experience deserves a thread of its own...I believe the other thread(s) to be too positive and far too much "heresay" which I believe has been propagated by the very few posters (not here) who stand to gain financially by boosting the rep of this RC.

I recently encountered someone who has actually TRIED this compound...needless to say, his experience and the experience of his girlfriend were, in some ways, TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the internet 'hype'.

Here's my interview with that person...as you can see, i'm calling this article, "THE FUCKIN TRUTH."



THE FUCKIN TRUTH:

ME (to DF Members): First off, I apologize that I have to be "the one" whose sole intention for posting is to propagate one very negative view of this new RC--so dubbed--FTC, for short. I know, this is a big pill to swallow. why? because who wouldn't be interested in a legal compound that is just like coke-only BETTER?? I'm legitimately sorry to burst everyone's bubbles here on DF...honestly, I just don't want anyone else to get SCREWED by the false-hope of an expensive, legal compound that has been touted as being a "3-4 hour legal cocaine"...


I certainly don't ENJOY being the one to tell everyone that Santa Claus doesn't exist! But, suffice it to say that according to someone VERY VERY close to me, everything about this RC is a bunch of bullshit....

So, here is the downright honest TRUTH. I recorded my conversation with Rick and I've transcribed it below.

ME: so, Rick, tell me about your recent experience with fluorotropacocaine, aka 3-pseudotropyl 4-fluorobenzoate

RICK:what a giant let-down...

some of the hype was right. for example, it is definitely NOT snortable...and...that's about it.

here's what it was like: SHITTY!

ME: Wait a second...YOU were the one who was SO EXCITED about this one compound!! For 2 weeks or more, all you ever talked about was FTC-this, and 3-hour-legal-cocaine-that...and you also had RESEARCH to back it up! What happened to all THAT!??

RICK: Let's just say that it looked much better on paper than it turned out to be in "real-life." At the risk of sounding paranoid, I will say that I am convinced that most of the people on all the pro-drug forums who had such great experiences were the SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE SELLING THE SHIT!!..(sites and usernames: CENSORED)

ME: anything else?

RICK: yeah, my nose still hurts after 4 days...still can't breath.

ME: well, that goes with the territory...I'll bet you must have snorted line after line, right? that's to be expected. How do you think it feels after an all-nighter with 100% pure columbian?

RICK: Yes, but NO. only snorted 1/4 of one 180mg line. it hurt so bad i could't continue. (45mg). My girlfriend wasn't as lucky...I was too embarassed to tell her about the asshole-method, so I gave her the full 180mg up the nostril.

ME: But, you should've done it rectally...that's supposed to be the BOMB!!

ME: I mean, according to all the compiled experiences of posters that *I* found. (note: this was the "experiences" of supposed people, posting on OTHER forums...not here...it was ME who compiled some of this info from other boards and posted them here...)

RICK: that's the only way I did it...with the exception of that one 45mg nose-murdering-sniff, I only did this stuff rectally...and sufficite to say my asshole still feels like I've been in prison for 2 months…

ME: OK… so was it ANYTHING like cocaine???

RICK: yes for about 10-15 minutes…it really was like that really good mexican/columbian, non-stomped-on non-speedy shit radiometer and others brag so much about…nothing speedy at all…BUT please DO NOT LET YOUR READERS STOP THERE!!!

RICK: like I said, that feeling only lasted 10-15 minutes. The rest of the time I felt like absolute shit.

ME: OK…well, that's just 1 person, and 1 experience. I certainly can't throw out a dramatic cease & desist order based on 1 experience of 1 person who isn't even ME!

RICK: You didn't let me finish. You know Dick, I think I know where you got that nickname from...you never let anyone else say SHIT!

ME: Sorry. Go ahead.

RICK: It wasn't just ME and it wasn't only 1 experience.

RICK: I told you already that I did it WITH another well-versed member of the opposite sex and she aggreed that it was something she'd never EVER do again (and also, this experience didn't cost her one red nickel.)

ME: you mean, one red cent.

RICK: Fuck you.

ME: off-track, but one quick question...does, "another well-versed member of the opposite sex" mean that she is a coke-whore?

RICK: Yes.

ME: OK, well can you at least give us an explanation of what it DID do to you??

RICK: Sure…it was a GIANT tease…well, perhaps this is attributed to what I was expecting, you know?

ME: What were you expecting?

RICK: Something that felt ANYTHING like cocaine...whether it lasted 4 hours or only 10 minutes--this made no difference to me. the 4 hour thing was just an added bonus, but it certainly wasn't something I was really crossing my fingers about

ME: Tell us more about what it DID feel like...

RICK: First of all, the only think I could think about was how bad my asshole was burning…and suffice it to say that I'm no virgin to the rectally-administered method. Hell, I've tried jamming just about anything and everything up there (short of a cock)…even caffeine. But this shit...it burned like no other…no shit.

RICK: The weirdest thing about it was that it WAS addictive in the sense that I felt like I had to keep doing it…you know? ANYTHING to make it feel like the real McCoy. Which I'm not gonna lie, there was a SLIGHT remembrance of real McCoy--however, it was NOT the part of the real-cola experience that you would actually WANT TO FEEL, understand?

ME: I think so… but I guarantee you that the readers of my forum are not going to be content with the information that you've given me. I need to know MORE...like, What form was the compound in? Freebase, citrate, sulfate?

RICK: Citrate. And it HURT worse than anything I've ever crammed into my own asshole.

ME: How much did you do in one night?

RICK: well, that's where I think I strayed from the pack…I mean, at first, I followed the advice of the thread on Drugs-forum [referring to the one I wrote, compiling the 'experiences' of other posters on other boards].

ME: You dumbass...you weren't supposed to actually COPY those posts!!! "SWIM" means "someone who isn't me"...in other words, you can't believe a damn word of it and you sure as hell shouldn't live your life by a SWIM's "advice"!

RICK:
First dose: 180mg rectally.
Effects: hard to describe, really. It was definitely reminiscent of a RESEARCH CHEMICAL dysphoria more so than feeling like real, actual "chowder."

It took 30 minutes to "kick in"…

This first dose was followed up by several "boosters..."


BOOSTERS:
1. attempted snorting of 180mg at about 60minute mark. This was aborted at about 1/4 of the line due to excruciating pain…worse than the pain I presently felt in my rectum…the remaining 3/4 went up the duke chute.

2. 200mg rectally again, about 1 hr after 2nd dose…

3. Mystery dose...??? This is unclear. I THINK that I squirted an additional 200mg per rectum sometime thereafter…unfortunately, I cannot recall exactly what I did...there seems to be a forgetfulness-inducing aspect of this compound. There's definitely a "DOWNER" aspect of this drug...maybe that is why my memory started failing me toward the end. I can say for sure that as the night went on (with each subsequent re-dose), I became more and more somnolent.

ME: Wait a sec…this doesn't make any sense…First you say that it didn't work, then you say you don't even remember if you had 2 or 3 boosters?? Something sounds fishy about that... sounds to me like there's some definite neurological ACTIVITY there!

RICK:Regardless of whether BOOSTER #2 or #3 was the final dose, it really doesn't matter….

ME: WHY?

RICK: Because IMMEDIATELY following the final dose (2 or 3), I suddenly became uncontrollably TIRED! YES, TIRED!! As in SLEEPY!

RICK:
FYI: I do not get sleepy without the following:
1. sleeping medication (i.e. Benadryl, Tylenol PM)
2. Downers/benzos/muscle relaxants/alcohol/GHB, etc.
3. Exhaustion (SEVERE exhaustion)
And, for the record, none of the above was "at play" here…OK. I admit, I did have a couple of beers--no more than 3 or 4 beers ALL NIGHT!--

The beers were kicked back in a desperate attempt to convert my experience from shitty into enjoyment...

**But I'd have to drink 20+ beers to give me the the extreme drowsiness that I experienced immediately after that last 200mg ass-squirt.

ME: So, it sounds like you're telling me that the FTC is a DOWNER! Is that right?

RICK: As far as this is concerned, I will say one thing that is FOR SURE! There is a definite DOWNER quality to this substance…now, this could be a result of a shitty source, who MIGHT have provided some kind of bullshit mixture of this and that (one being a definite DOWNER)...

if this were the case, then the result was that after 3 or 4 doses, the downer-element overpowered the non-downer element, causing extreme sleepiness and uncontrolled falling asleep…within 15-20 minutes of the last dose...yes, that is definitely a possibility.

ME: OK...enough about you. Tell us more about the "coke-whore":

RICK: She had only 1 dose of 200mg intranasally and she did nothing but complain about the pain in her sinuses and her sore throat for the entire experience…in fact, this is day 4 following the experience, and she is STILL saying things like, "Goddammit, my nose and throat still hurt!! Do you think that I might have caused permanent damage to my nasal passages?"

Just to give your readers an idea of how caustic this stuff is to the nose: this individual is no stranger to sniffing colas of various qualities (including the SHITTY kinds cut with all sorts of horrendous things), and this is first time I've heard her go on and on about possible sinus damage...

ME: That's not what I meant when I said "Tell me more about her"...I was thinking more along the lines of, What is her name? Do you have her phone number?

RICK: again...FUCK YOU.

ME: So, it sounds like you had an all-around terrible, exhausting experience that in no way even resembled cocaine…am I correct?

RICK:For the most part.

ME: Any parting remarks? What do you say to the people who are dead-set on "trying" it due to the slightest chance that it feels ANYTHING like real coca?

RICK: OK, I will say this…

there was about a 20 minute window (out of 3 hour span) after the very FIRST dose and then again, after the SECOND dose, there was maybe a 10-15 minute window that had some admittedly coke-like elements. They were:

Temporary Diarreah of the Mouth.

for about 20 minutes, I did my coke-jabber…of course, this consists of talking my brains out in the usual cola-type manner...taking every single opportunity to make a sharp 90 degree tangent possible, while trying to explain something totally unrelated to any of said tangents to someone else, while doing everything I can to forcibly make the other person actually listen...even if it meant stretching the truth. (OMG, MAYBE IT IS COKE-LIKE!)

The important thing to remember her is: DO NOT FORGET THE CONTEXT! We're talking about TWO 20 minute stretches (at best)…out of almost a whole gram…in this sense, a gram of the REAL DEAL (even cut-to-shit-and-back) would have been MORE cost-effective...

Also, take note of this puzzling fact: the effects of 1 gram of 'Real Deal' (even cut to shit & back) would have lasted JUST AS LONG as this "experience"...only difference being that instead of 20 minutes of coke, I'd get the whole 4 hours...really no comparison...at all.

While we're discussing MY brief moment of actually feeling good, here's what happened to my "Girlfriend."

She went into another room and pulled out all her art portfolio and proceeded to rummage thru everything--just like she would have done on cocaine. HOWEVER, do not forget that she claims to have had a terrible experience (from 1 dose) and never one single time said that she would EVER do it again!

ME: Would you ever try this compound again?

RICK: yeah…I tried it again the very next night…(I am NOT a quitter!)

ME: How was the second try?

RICK: I decided that I had done "too much" on my first experience…so, on the following night, I tried it again…

1 single dose (200mg)…up the ass…and this time, it was even WORSE HELL!!! Much worse than the night before!

(**this is a sign that possibly the first night was loaded with subliminal suggestion… you know, I was EXPECTING cocaine-only-better-cause-it-lasts-longer…)

ok, so anyways, on the second night, I only did the one dose, and God, I spent the whole 3-4 hours praying that it would GO AWAY!! I felt like my guts were being torn inside out…like I had heart-burn, but it was much lower…in my colon, I guess. Not so much an 'upper' or 'downer'--just anxiety-causing.

ME: Sounds like a giant let-down…

RICK: Yes. A huge, giant let-down…anyone who says that this "feels like coke" is probably going to try and sell it to you in some way or another...

ME: DF Members, please respond... If anyone has additional questions, I can phone Rick at any time.


-DICK

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Good work.
	One f the most well-written and entertaining trip reports I have read on D-F
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	good info