Effects - Pain and LSD

[Acid_Flux]

I apologize if this topic has been discussed before, I did not find anything on this in the search results.

Pinkyponky was on LSD with some friends and smoking hubbly (I think some people call it a hookah, but in SA we call it hubbly) It was really amazing by the way.

Then someone bumped the hub and the coal fell. Without thinking pinkyponky’s friend picked up the coal and put it back on the hub.

What’s amazing is that he says he felt no pain and even more amazingly he had no burn marks on his hands.

Pinkyponky cannot understand this. The only way she can understand it is that LSD focuses ones mind to such an extent that it’s mind over matter, and you can convince yourself that something is not burning or hurting when it ordinarily would.

Is it perhaps the same principle as walking over coals? How do people do that anyway?

[TestDummy]

Everybody seems to have the capability to unlock pain restriction. I personally had many experiences where I overcame something that was painful in the past by just thinking that I didn't need to pay attention to it. I didn't know how powerful it was at the time, but it is partial to experiences, and also expectations.

TestDummy added 2 Minutes and 33 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by TestDummy

Everybody seems to have the capability to unlock pain restriction. I personally had many experiences where I overcame something that was painful in the past by just thinking that I didn't need to pay attention to it. I didn't know how powerful it was at the time, but it is partial to experiences, and also expectations.

LSD has always led Charlie to realize that the physical world is a reflection of an idea, and those ideas lead to the surrounding subjective....perspective.
It was quite a deal for Charlie to feel how all the perspectives come together as one...quite empowering and a goal that Charlie will aim for for the rest of his life.

[newgrower]

My gnome has felt pain on LSD, but then again he hasn't. That is pain doesn't feel like pain to him while tripping. He has done something that he knows should hurt and has felt something but his brain didn't translate the sensation as pain.

He doesn't know if this is a common thing or at what amount of pain would it start to feel like pain normally does.

[TestDummy]

Charlie said that on LSD, one can break down the processes of the body along with anything else. In the understanding comes the capability to handle.

[psyche]

I certainly agre that acid takes pain away pretty effectively. There's so much more information and perception coming in that it juts drowns in there. I've found that pain can be best conquered by concentrating on it intensely. Becoming pain yourself. Then it slowly loses it's meaning and feels to dissolve away. Mind certainly has a lot to say to physical pain, since it's ultimately in the mind after all. The kind of accepting it and maybe imagining all your anger and frustration to be the pain helps.

[Acid_Flux]

what i found fascinating is how there weren't even marks on his hands? how is that possible?

its kind of like that test they did several years ago. they hallucinated a woman and told her a red-hot coin was being put to her skin. they put a normal coin to her skin, but amazingly a red burn mark showed up there. her mind had convinced her the coin was hot.

it's crazy how our mind can even conquer physical manifestations of pain. LSD is particularly effective in focusing our mind like this.

what's even cooler is that if this is indeed possible, imagine the possibilities of what we can do with our minds!!!! WOWEE

[Panthers007]

Glowing charcoal has an incredible area - as in size. While the radiant heat, which causes the glow, appears solid to the eye - it's actually mostly air and air-currents in a system of tubes or tunnels throughout the extremely porous structure of the carbon.

It is for this reason that one can walk across glowing charcoals in bare feet and suffer no burns or discomfort. It's actually air. Like walking past a hot oven with the door left open. Same thing applies for picking up a hot charcoal with one's fingers. As long as you keep moving and don't linger, you won't get burned.

Sorry - no mystical mumbo-jumbo here. Simple physics strikes again.

Oh - and glowing hot metal is a different animal altogether. That will burn the piss out of you!

[tryptamaster]

swim has felt that lsd dulls pain. Swim aslso belives his body interprets pain differntly when on cid. Instead of pain, its just another bodily sensation.

[Mona Lisa]

Originally Posted by tryptamaster

swim has felt that lsd dulls pain. Swim aslso belives his body interprets pain differntly when on cid. Instead of pain, its just another bodily sensation.

Swim agrees. She found it disassociated her from the pain of a fracture when she took four hits after breaking her collarbone

[Panthers007]

LSD was used with great success in the treatment of pain in those suffering from terminal cancers. This disassociation from pain was known early on. It worked where morphine had lost it's analgesic qualities, and without causing respiratory suppression. And that's not even going into the noted benefits regarding people's mind-set during their final days.

[sylenth]

picked up the coal and put it back on the hub

there's many logical explanations here. we know how certain peoples hands & fingers become hard from the type of work they do, such as heavy mechanical or structural work. besides for that smurf has picked up many hot things before 'coal included' & has not felt the pain unless holding it for quite a while. this being straight or high. there's various stages the coal goes through when burning especially these coals used, being very breathable for smoking purposes.

it's like moving your hard hands over a naked flame on a candle or lighter. the lsd could of definetly given the idea that the pain does'nt hurt for various reasons such as being on the level of consciouness on lsd & the feeling of disconnection from his body or the guy knew this coal picking up trick from experience or the lsd just made him a bit more brave in front of his friends. probably all of these, guys are guys...

smurf does agree that lsd can help with reducing feelings of pain as your mind is not as focussed on things as usual & depending on the mind set & the amount of pain, it can be dealt with rationally. as for the burn marks... if he had to hold on to a hot coal 'long enough' whilst on lsd he would have a burn mark, make sure you check the next day.

[seeingred]

Maybe in the future, they will use LSD to get off of mind control drugs.

[xpacificsynergyx]

your problem child

"One medicinal use of LSD that touches on fundamental ethical questions is its administration to the dying. This practice arose from observations in American clinics that especially severe painful conditions of cancer patients, which no longer respond to conventional pain-relieving medication, could be alleviated or completely abolished by LSD. Of course, this does not involve an analgesic effect in the true sense. The diminution of pain sensitivity may rather occur because patients under the influence of LSD are psychologically so dissociated from their bodies that physical pain no longer penetrates their consciousness. In order for LSD to be effective in such cases, it is especially crucial that patients be prepared and instructed about the kind of experiences and transformations that await them. In many cases it has proved beneficial for either a member of the clergy or a psychotherapist to guide the patient's thoughts in a religious direction. Numerous case histories tell of patients who gained meaningful insights about life and death on their deathbeds as, freed from pain in LSD ecstasy and reconciled to their fate, they faced their earthly demise fearlessly and in peace. "

[lulz]

SWIM has had the opposite experience of most posters in this thread.

He has had long term dental problems that have taken ages to get fixed, which have been causing chronic low level toothaches (treatment has been going on for months). Normally he has been able to tune out the pain and ignore it from his mind, but over the last few months whenever he has tripped the pain has become very powerful.

Maybe LSD removes the normal mental blocks he has in place to block the pain, and these are one of the many mental illusions that are washed away when "the doors of perception are cleansed".

[ComfortablyNumb]

Alot of the pain we feel is in the mind, and since LSD affects the mind it wouldnt surprise me that when SWIY picked up the coal it didnt hurt. For example; if you look at a cut on your finger through the wrong end of binoculars the pain decreases because your mind thinks the wound is smaller, if you look at it through the right way, the pain will increase because your eyes are telling your brain that the cut is huge therefor you should fell more pain.