Experiences - Comedown on Ecstasy

[spat123]

Hi guys, new to this site. Great site, very informative!

SWIM takes pills quite regularly. But on a very few occasions on the comedown SWIM gets very strange anxiety. Really panicky and not happy feelings just concerned thoughts. Real paranioa.This lasts sometimes for 8 hours or more. This doesnt happen regularly, only maybe 6 times now. But on Saturday night i took some MDMA powder and one pill (cant remember what is was) but after 4 hours i got the above feelings, it was horrible, the only way i could make this go away was to drink a beer but that only disguised it for a while.
Would anyone know what is in the pill thats giving these horrible feelings? Or has anyone else experienced this!

Any help much appreciated!!

[Mammon]

SWIM knows the MDMA comedowns very well and the nightmare they can be. Some of his friends seem to get away with it but they hit him pretty hard. Once after a huge session he had a whole week of feeling like he was having a nervous breakdown: paranoia, depression, panic, extreme sympathy – a world of pain.

After a while experience teaches the people who do these drugs that the negative feelings and thoughts should be dismissed as simply the price that must be paid. That’s a lot easier to say than do sometimes.

The technique this guy I know uses is to try and not take too much MDMA and pills by mixing up the drugs he takes in an evening. He gets coke, K, booze, weed, even NO2 to make sure he doesn’t suffer too much on suicide Tuesday. If the comedown really hurts try some benzos.

Oh yeah, check the forum rules about SWIM and the like.

Take care, mate.

[spat123]

thanks for the reply my man. Much appreciated for your time!
Its not really the tuesday or the wednesday that SWIM gets this feeling. Its more like 4 hours after taking the pill. SWIM mentioned this could be cut with MCPP. SWIM checked out the side effects and they look pretty similar to wat SWIM could be experiencing? SWIM wishes they made pill like they used too!

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by spat123

Its more like 4 hours after taking the pill. SWIM mentioned this could be cut with MCPP. SWIM checked out the side effects and they look pretty similar to wat SWIM could be experiencing? SWIM wishes they made pill like they used too!

This is often a result of impurities like you suggest, the best way to move forward is to consume pure MDMA crystal and nothing but. I think that many people often come to this point after they have used MDMA/ecstasy for a while. After all the extra cash spent is well worth the lack of negative feelings.

The only other thing SWIF can imagine from his own experience is that possibly as the peak drops SWIY may feel a sudden sense of loss, as emotions and feelings return to a more normal level albeit far from bassline. This is just something one has to deal with and is why many users will redose at this point but gain very little from it. Being in the right enviroment and accepting the experience for what it is will all help SWIY cope with these feelings.

[spat123]

Yeah i totally agree being in the right environment def helps. SWIM has been taking for a number of years and this has only happened a few times. SWIM never really gets bad come downs, normally SWIM levels off and then sleeps. But with this feeling its not only impossible to sleep but its very scarey. So i think in future SWIM will only stick to pure MDMA. Or buy a testing kit!!

Thanks alot for your response guys. Much appreciated!! N Joy!!

[Abscond]

Ugh the ungodly comedown. Marijuana really helps SWIM with this but hes been lucky to have very good comedowns because he can cope with the feelings. The day after can be very annoying though but once again a good blunt and a few good friends can make this seem like nothing more than a light hang over. A few times SWIM has been lucky enough to not have a come down at all but a slow loss of energy till he became normal which was a great experience. SWIM cannot handle the wait till his next MDMA Vacation at LOVEFEST! See you humans there!

[BrainMelt]

Swim has been using all kinds of E pills(mostly really good quality) over the past year and has never experienced this nightmare comedown that people talk about. It kinda just wears off and swim feels tired and braindead the next day. Nothing too bad. Its just a day to lounge around the house and do next to nothing.

[Panthers007]

BrainMelt: That is what most monkeys experience. Some monkeys find just feeling a bit burned-out to be unbearable. Most can contend with it and take it in stride. One factor is at play though - if you tell someone over-and-over that they will feel like shit-on-a-stick the next day - they will. They will program themselves to. Variation on how a placebo works.

[chrisn]

Puff and his friends have only tried ecstacy as pure mdma crystals, and rather than feeling terrible the next day they have a pleasant afterglow. They may not feel like doing much, but it is a blissful laziness.

[KomodoMK]

SWIM only ever suffered bad come downs when he took large amounts of the drug with alcohol, usually doing it all Friday night, then going back to pub on the Saturday with no sleep and continuing well into the night again. SWIM thinks these come downs were due to the combined sleep deprivation and dehydration. They were not so bad as it was easy to sleep by that point.

SWIM has learned to take a sensible dose of the drug and enjoy, and when you slowly start to come down maybe have a couple of beers to take the edge off before sleep. Works like a charm.

[treespiritbee]

SWIM is going through the worst comedown on ecstasy, and had a very bad experience, and setting last night. SWIM is retiring from all drugs! and even ciggarettes. Life changing experience definatly, and the bad outweighed the good by far.

[Dr. Satan]

The bad experiences under xtc are going to be more and more frequent, and the difficult come-downs also, because xtc manufacturers will sell substitute drugs that are less less expensive and/or less risky to produce, such as mCPP, PMA, DXM, PCP, ketamine, methamphetamine.
So, organized manufacturers can make huge profits selling fake drugs to unwitting consumers, and that's really scandalous.

[trips-a-hoy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Satan

The bad experiences under xtc are going to be more and more frequent, and the difficult come-downs also, because xtc manufacturers will sell substitute drugs that are less less expensive and/or less risky to produce, such as mCPP, PMA, DXM, PCP, ketamine, methamphetamine.
So, organized manufacturers can make huge profits selling fake drugs to unwitting consumers, and that's really scandalous.

Its shitty but true. Swim doesnt even mess with X anymore because every "roll" is different, no consistantcy, and they have really been sucking lately!

[Gorgonzola]

For swim, next day is a very nice afterglow (especially if combined with shrooms)
Followings day might be more difficult. Not that swim is depressed but his restistance to accumulated problems is lower...

Gorgonzola added 186 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

Also, did swiy tried tried complements like 5HTP, antioxidant, suntheanine, sint john worth, ... when comedown start to be felt?

Gorgonzola added 8 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by spat123

thanks for the reply my man. Much appreciated for your time!
Its not really the tuesday or the wednesday that SWIM gets this feeling. Its more like 4 hours after taking the pill. SWIM mentioned this could be cut with MCPP. SWIM checked out the side effects and they look pretty similar to wat SWIM could be experiencing? SWIM wishes they made pill like they used too!

Swim felt this with Methylone