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Ethnobotanicals Psychedelic plants, Iboga, Calea, Blue lotus, Ephedra, Sinicuichi, Betel nut, etc.

 
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Old 18-08-2008, 05:28
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Nutmeg FAQ

Recently Charizard had to stop doing drugs cuz he is now on probation. Seeing as it is pretty damn hard to just go cold turkey with a series of drug's, Charizard has decided to stop doing illegalities, and start doing legal recreational drugs. Nothing OTC is really that dangerous, but at the same time, Charizard realizes that benadryl, DXM, and downerz etc, are sort of not that great to be doing... at all.

So it has come down to Nutmeg, or Datura.
jk.

The other night though... Charizard was so desperate to twip bawlz that he ate 6 grams of ground up nutmeg... but it was old, not freshly ground nutmeg. Charizard waited about 6-8 hours to feel the effects... and didn't feel jack shet.

So,
Do you have to have fresh ground nutmeg to..."trip", or can you use old nutmeg?

What is the best way to eat/take nutmeg without the... horrid taste?

What are something's not to do while on nutmeg(other drugs)?

What are the long term effects of nutmeg(both constant dosing, and dosing every now nd then)?

Charizard will probably have a few mo questions... but can't ask them now since he has to go fight Blastoise. that fucker.
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Old 18-08-2008, 05:49
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

I'm glad you were kidding about Datura. Anyways, I've read that fresh nutmeg is more effective, but swim doesn't really have much to back it up. Isn't that dosage a little low? Maybe Swim should try 10g to maybe 15g?
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Old 18-08-2008, 06:29
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

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Do you have to have fresh ground nutmeg to..."trip", or can you use old nutmeg?
Swim has used both pre-ground store bought nutmeg, and fresh whole nutmeg and has been able to get effects with both of them. For pre-ground store bought nutmeg swim has needed to take half the bottle (about 25-35 grams) for it to effect him. For whole nutmeg which swim has to grind up himself, he finds that one to two whole nutmegs will usually do the trick depending on how fresh they are.

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What is the best way to eat/take nutmeg without the... horrid taste?
The absolute best way of eating/taking nutmeg would be to take the dose that swiy are taking and put it into a tissue or similar dissolvable paper and wrap it up into a ball and simply swallow it. This is called parachuting or bombing.

If for some reason swiy don't like that idea or doesn't have any tissues () then a alternative would be to just simply put all of the nutmeg on swiy's tongue and just chase it down with a large amount of water or other liquid.

A final alternative would be to try dissolving nutmeg / using nutmeg in a dish or recipe.

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What are something's not to do while on nutmeg(other drugs)?
Swim would recommend staying away from any MAOI's, and any other depressants. (Although swiy could probably get away with a beer or two)

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What are the long term effects of nutmeg(both constant dosing, and dosing every now nd then)?
Although it is normal to have dry-mouth well on nutmeg and for a day or so after a trip, Swim has experienced a persistant dry-mouth after using nutmeg for long periods of time, which sometimes lasts for up to a week after swim's initial dose. (Although swim is a heavy user of nutmeg, and this most likely won't effect swiy for quite some time)
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Old 18-08-2008, 07:33
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

It really just is not worth it.Look up any other post about nutmeg on the search engine or look at erowids nutmeg vault.There is a reason why this stuff isn't illegal,it is pretty much horrid.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:33
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

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I'm glad you were kidding about Datura. Anyways, I've read that fresh nutmeg is more effective, but swim doesn't really have much to back it up. Isn't that dosage a little low? Maybe Swim should try 10g to maybe 15g?
haha yea i added the datura in there for shits and giggles. but charizard is interested in your recommended recreational dosage.

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It really just is not worth it.Look up any other post about nutmeg on the search engine or look at erowids nutmeg vault.There is a reason why this stuff isn't illegal,it is pretty much horrid.
orchid charizard sees you all around this forum... so he trusts what you say, but he also wants you to take into consideration the fact that no matter what one has heard, one would just want to try it for the experience itself. the outcome of experiences brings either knowledge or vomit. charizard is prepared for either of the 2.

oh and it may just be possible that a lot of people would freak out if the illegalized a common cooking spice.

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Old 07-09-2008, 09:19
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

Bon appetite.

Fresh (has to be fresh) nutmeg, taken in a high dose, will make you sick. Fever, sweating, delirium. The delirium is the alleged high. Rather like a fever dream. Used and popularized in prisons - where being sick and delirious might help one escape from a day on the chain-gang picking cotton for Massuh - very few would care to venture forth with nutmeg without a gun to the head.

Perhaps SWIM is different. If so - please post his/her report. If he doesn't die from kidney-failure or something along the way.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:02
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

I've heard that a strong nutmeg extract can be made by extracting it with acetone.

Personally, I prefer to use this one only for spice.

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Old 14-09-2008, 07:03
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

When my frog did nutmeg he ate 6 nuts (about 30mg) and it hit him like a ton of bricks. Felt a lot like marijuana, even had completely bloodshot eyes, much worse than he gets when smoking pot. The frog passed the fuck out about 30minutes after the nutmeg kicked in(which took 10 fucking hours) so he didn't even get to enjoy the full effects but he remembers some auditory hallucinations and would hve probably tripped pretty good if he hadn't passed out. Froggy still wants to try it agian sometime, but eat it before bed so he trips in the day time instead of the otherway around like last time...sense it takes 8-10 fckin hours to kick in...
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Old 14-09-2008, 13:49
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

If you really want to try nutmeg then just take 3 tablespoons of freshly ground nutmeg and wash it down with milk.
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Old 14-09-2008, 17:03
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

SWIM never actualy been around or done alot of nutmeg. From what SWIM hears, its kinda a bit of a joke. Surely SWIY can find something thats legal an a bit better then nutmeg?

Anyway enjoy the trip, and it would be nice to hear a report on what it is like.
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Old 14-09-2008, 17:20
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

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When my frog did nutmeg he ate 6 nuts (about 30mg) and it hit him like a ton of bricks. ...
Umm...6 whole nutmegs weighs considerably more than 30 milligrams (mg), Ellis. Minor dyslexia perhaps? Did you mean 30 grams (gm)?
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:16
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

swim knows swiy is looking for info on nutmeg but may swim suggest possibly doing a dramamine trip. its swim's favorite over the counter high. its really a fascinating thing to do. look it up if swiy doesnt know anything about. its a really cool trip. dxm is great also even though swiy said no to that but a 12 ounce bottle of robo should fuck swiy up pretty great. if swiy has questions about dramamine, then let swim know. swim has done it quite a number of times
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:17
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

Has anyone ever tried to put nutmeg in jello and swallow?
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Old 10-01-2009, 20:54
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

Its a real bad idea to do nutmeg - its a sickly horrible drug

I had this about 9 years ago - around 3 whole nutmegs ground up

Not much happened for 1-2 hours and went to bed

then 4 hours or so later woke up with intese energy and high - so far so good

Then for 4 days felt incredibly nauseus, weak and totally disfunctional / poor concentration, zomby like. Also panic attacks - the very thought of staying like a zomby for the rest of ones life due to brain damage isnt very inspiring. Also appetite gone to zero, severe dry throat and mouth and basically evil effect.

Seriously not worth the short high ! I would say this is a possessed acute intoxication - not recommended

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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

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Its a real bad idea to do nutmeg - its a sickly horrible drug

I had this about 9 years ago - around 3 whole nutmegs ground up

Not much happened for 1-2 hours and went to bed

then 4 hours or so later woke up with intese energy and high - so far so good

Then for 4 days felt incredibly nauseus, weak and totally disfunctional / poor concentration, zomby like. Also panic attacks - the very thought of staying like a zomby for the rest of ones life due to brain damage isnt very inspiring. Also appetite gone to zero, severe dry throat and mouth and basically evil effect.

Seriously not worth the short high ! I would say this is a possessed acute intoxication - not recommended

transformatins1

Swim has never had any reaction that badly with nutmeg. Swim usually uses the ground up kind from the grocery. Swim usually takes two heaping teaspoons full. This last time swim put this into a glass of water and drank. Got a nice buzz, but then went to bed. The next morning swim had to work, his eyes were so bloodshot and he had some difficultly walking. Swim also had a little trouble not slurring and staying focused on what people were saying and what swim was doing. Then it all just passed. But swim typically doesn't take a too high a dose.

Swim agrees with the lack of appetite and the very dry mouth. But swim is used to these things becuase he is an opiate user.
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Old 20-05-2009, 06:06
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

SWAIM wants to try nutmeg but has only the seeds, must he grind them up before using them or is it ok to just eat the seeds? And how many seeds would you say would be a good, moderate-high dose?
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Old 20-05-2009, 06:33
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

swim tried nutmeg several times, here is what he learned.

store bought nutmeg is highly unrelaible. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it just gives you a head ache. it needs to be fresh, the fresher the better

do not take to much, side effects are reported to be very bad.

swims one successful experiment was as follows. swim bought one jar of nutmeg from the store. swim ordered large gel caps from a vendor. swim filled 10 gel caps with nutmeg. swim weighs 160lbs. taken on a friday at 4pm it seemed like nothing worked, but swim was drinking beer also so might not have noticed subtle effects. 6 hours later when swim went to sleep he noticed closed eyes visuals, which were quit interesting right before he dropped into sleep.

swim woke up unmistakablly very high. he knew the second he opened his eyes. very simular to a strong marijuana high, felt it very much in his body, big smile, good feeling in his body, very dry mouth. this lasted all day and was actually very nice. sunday swim woke up still pretty high, maybe a bit less than the day before. now swim was slightly worried because he had to go to work the next day.

swim woke up monday with no effects, and no side effects.

swim would defenately do it again if he could find a more reliable way. worst thing that happened is a head ache on one failed attempt. also nutmeg constipates you while the effects are felt, so a juice and fruit only diet is recomended for the duration.

swim thinks that maybe nutmeg oil might be a more reliable method, as he has read it is the oils that contain the active properties. how much not sure.
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Old 20-05-2009, 15:23
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

dumb dumb: What part of "grind up the seeds" that has been mentioned over and over didn't you get? You really think you can chew up a nutmeg? Or were you just going to swallow them whole? Never seen a nutmeg that wasn't rock hard.

Look, it's obvious you haven't done even the slightest bit of research on this spice or you'd have these answers, and that's foolish. Preparation and dose size is only one aspect to doing a drug, finding out if there are any contradictions is even more important. You know your medical history, and through research will be able to find out if there are any reasons why you shouldn't do something. Ephedrine is fine in small doses for most people, but those with heart problems it can be lethal.

As for your questions... Yes you grind them. It's not the number of seeds, but the weight or volume, usually 20+ grams. And no, this isn't a "good, moderate high dose" Nutmeg effect are not "good" (usually miserable) and its dosing is hardly graduated, that is to say you get effects or you don't.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:12
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

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dumb dumb: What part of "grind up the seeds" that has been mentioned over and over didn't you get? You really think you can chew up a nutmeg? Or were you just going to swallow them whole? Never seen a nutmeg that wasn't rock hard.

Look, it's obvious you haven't done even the slightest bit of research on this spice or you'd have these answers, and that's foolish. Preparation and dose size is only one aspect to doing a drug, finding out if there are any contradictions is even more important. You know your medical history, and through research will be able to find out if there are any reasons why you shouldn't do something. Ephedrine is fine in small doses for most people, but those with heart problems it can be lethal.

As for your questions... Yes you grind them. It's not the number of seeds, but the weight or volume, usually 20+ grams. And no, this isn't a "good, moderate high dose" Nutmeg effect are not "good" (usually miserable) and its dosing is hardly graduated, that is to say you get effects or you don't.
SWIM did chew up one nutmeg yesterday, but to no effect, plans to up it to two today. SWIM did research it, but doesn't have equipment for measuring grams and all doses come in those units.
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Old 20-05-2009, 19:27
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

well if you look up on google "grams to ounces" you'd find out that 28 grams is an ounce. 1-4 teaspoons seems to be a low to moderate dose, 5+ is when things defiantly WILL get unpleasant for the majority of users (though low doses can be too)

Jesus them be some strong chompers there. I make jewelry out of nutmegs and have to to say they can take some real abuse from saws, drills, files, and sand paper. A grating board should do you just fine to turn them into powder (which is necessary to allow the "essential amphetamines" to extract in the stomach, as once swallowed, the chunks of nuts won't break down any further.

Hmmm... The Doktor just informed me they popped a nutmeg in their mouth and it in fact is chewable. My apologies.

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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

Nutmeg is a HORRID idea!! SWIY should take into consideration that the negative effects on swiy's body far outweigh any of the positive!!!! Nutmeg oils increase fatty deposites on the liver!! Safrole is Carcinogenic and TOXIC on the liver!!! Swim is SURE there is a better way for swiY to ward off the WD'S!! Check out this List of Legal herbs My cat showed to me awhile back !!! Best of luck and PLEASE know what it is swiy is consuming before doing so!!


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Sorry about that!! I'm a newbie!! I tried embedding an interesting paper about legal herbs and such that produce all sorts of highs but it didn't work and I'm truly sorry!!!

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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

Pixi: Anyone who has read anything on nutmeg should know it's going to make them sick, but what you are describing ar LONG TERM HEAVY USE issues. The FDA claims a LOT of things are carcinogenic based off of experiments involving irrational amounts injected into rats. No one is going to stomach nutmeg enough to have those issues.

As for your article, I'd be shocked if nutmeg isn't on that list, and even more if I couldn't point out 20%+ of the list that is also poisonous or untested. Don't worry about posting it, we've got everything that's going to be on it here with probably far more info. Remember "legal" and "natural" do NOT mean safe, please refer to my post in this thread, for more on this subject.

You need to understand a lot of the plants here ARE dangerous, we talk about them because they are of historical value, chemical value, because we're often out of our minds and willing to risk our selves for new experiances. Remember EVERYTHINg is dangerous, going out in the sun causes cancer, not going in the sun causes vitamin deficiency, red wine keeps your hear clear of plaque and will kill you if you drink too much, the very act of being born brings you a step closer to death, all in moderation. When you try and scare people like that you aren;t any better then the gov't claiming pot causes you to turn into a depraved sex maniac. Present your data in a clam scientific manner, the links between cancer and saffrole have not been discussed, if you were to post on the subject with links to peer reviewed articles, you might get some good rep.

and where do you see anything about staving off of withdrawl symptoms?
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Also found on this site: Adam Gottlieb - Legal Highs
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Re: Nutmeg FAQ

rock hard nutmeg? what's the point of that. you want it to be full of oil. if it is, yes, you can chew it

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dumb dumb: What part of "grind up the seeds" that has been mentioned over and over didn't you get? You really think you can chew up a nutmeg? Or were you just going to swallow them whole? Never seen a nutmeg that wasn't rock hard.

Look, it's obvious you haven't done even the slightest bit of research on this spice or you'd have these answers, and that's foolish. Preparation and dose size is only one aspect to doing a drug, finding out if there are any contradictions is even more important. You know your medical history, and through research will be able to find out if there are any reasons why you shouldn't do something. Ephedrine is fine in small doses for most people, but those with heart problems it can be lethal.

As for your questions... Yes you grind them. It's not the number of seeds, but the weight or volume, usually 20+ grams. And no, this isn't a "good, moderate high dose" Nutmeg effect are not "good" (usually miserable) and its dosing is hardly graduated, that is to say you get effects or you don't.

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