The anxiety help list

[sylenth]

figuring out where my anxiety comes from i decided to create a thread to help others get rid of their anxiety by listing what causes anxiety that perhaps people cant think of & over see. traditional ways cause anxiety. i found my frikken girl friend causes alot of my anxiety cos she is like my traditional mother & you want to avoid been treated like shit by keeping ur girlfriend happy it's bad enough they blame their hormones for things. here's some examples you can relate to.

'girl friend/mother...'
get out of my kitchen i need my space!
i've just cleaned the floor be carefull where you walk!
why are these clothes lying everywhere?

'us, guys, swimmers, people, kids...'
jees i'm clean & this is my house too & i'm not a kid anymore fuck off! stop been so traditional, obsessive & sexist.

so feel free to list more there's lots society creates since young & they stay with you, things like what clothes you wear, what car you drive, what hair style you have, how you walk........

these are all ego issues passed on to others & they get caught in it. image is everything yes but dont let it elude you. dont be a victim & live with this terrible disorder. dont follow what sounds & looks cool not being ur self causing anxiety. fuck the people i am the people.

another big one is 'cash' to buy what you want & survive waiting for pay day. this is a whole month of anxiety. so not spending all your cash at once can help with this. sad but a reality we need it.

[old hippie 56]

good list, money issues are a major cause of anxiety in this day and time. Know it is for me, hard to stretch X amount of dollars month to month. Especially with two kids.

[Richard_smoker]

Originally Posted by sylenth

it's bad enough they blame their hormones for things.

yeah...i seem to recall having wasted much of my adult life trying to learn to argue this one out. alas, it is impossible. -DICK

[old hippie 56]

arguing with a woman is like arguing with a mirror.

[lostmente]

this is the song that never ends...

I've had quite a few thoughts that loop, the loops alot larger now tho

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[sylenth]

yeah but if you can identify them it has alot of benefits to a calmer more peacefull lifestyle. i'm very plain & simple after realising i'm tired of playing the image game to get everything i wanted. image causes alot of problems in the business & personal parts of life.

a stressful lifestyle causes almost all the anxiety, deadlines, obligations, crime etc... with sacrafice comes great rewards. i must be getting old...

good one richard smoker lol. hippie56 a mirror.... very true.

[dabullsef]

you know what they say, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

in order to keep my little bit of anxiety under control i find it best to just go out for a walk and i'm calm as a guy with an elephant tranq in his neck.

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[beena]

SWIM had some major issues with her parents growing up: or maybe I should say 'parent', cos it was always her mother. SWIMs mother is very domineering and SWIM found her constant criticism hard to live with. Nothing SWIM did was ever good enough...also SWIM's mother always had a habit of comparing her with other people's children who were so much better. SWIM's earliest memory is of two of her mom and dad's friends coming to their house to visit, SWIM got shy and hid behind her mothers legs (she was only about three years old) and got pretty badly scolded for doing so. SWIM was made to feel like she had misbehaved for being shy and I think this really contributed to destroying SWIM's confidence yet further. It was only when SWIM left home at the age of 17 that things got better. She went to live with people who gave her a lot of support and encouragement.
SWIM still finds going home to visit her parents stressful though and can't stay for too long or arguments/bad feelings start up again.
Oh and SWIM forgot to add that SWIMs parents are devout Christians whilst SWIM is an atheist....

[Nacho]

Is this about a little stress every now and then or actual anxiety disorder?

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by Nacho

Is this about a little stress every now and then or actual anxiety disorder?

what ever you believe is the cause of it to become a disorder. a stresfull childhood definetly causes anxiety & it becomes a habit in life as you grow up so any other constant stress you get yourself into is adding to the anxiety waiting to become a anxiety disorder with panic attacks etc...

so a little bit of stress now & then like the anxiety you get in the dodgy spot waiting for ur dealer on a come down for swimmers would fall under normal circumstances in daily life. if you have the disorder any little stressful moments have their effects.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by sylenth

what ever you believe is the cause of it to become a disorder. a stresfull childhood definetly causes anxiety & it becomes a habit in life as you grow up so any other constant stress you get yourself into is adding to the anxiety waiting to become a anxiety disorder with panic attacks etc...

so a little bit of stress now & then like the anxiety you get in the dodgy spot waiting for ur dealer on a come down for swimmers would fall under normal circumstances in daily life. if you have the disorder any little stressful moments have their effects.

Okay. In that case, fear of death would definitely be up there. I think I've pinpointed that as my main cause of anxiety.

Why the hell do our bodies hate us? When you're just trying to hang out with your friends and then you're heart starts racing and you're short of breath and you feel light-headed and you have to suck it up as much as possible because most people don't understand anxiety disorder at all and think you're crazy. It fucking sucks./rant.

[beena]

Originally Posted by Nacho

Okay. In that case, fear of death would definitely be up there. I think I've pinpointed that as my main cause of anxiety.

Why the hell do our bodies hate us? When you're just trying to hang out with your friends and then you're heart starts racing and you're short of breath and you feel light-headed and you have to suck it up as much as possible because most people don't understand anxiety disorder at all and think you're crazy. It fucking sucks./rant.

SWIM has been thinking/worrying about death a lot recently. It all started as a result of withdrawal symptoms from Tramadol, which have been fairly horrific: if SWIM hasn't had the dose her body needs her to take each day before she goes to bed, and she forgets and just goes and falls asleep, then her body goes into withdrawal during sleep. She starts having repetitive nightmares or night-terrors (not sure what the correct definition would be), where she know she is asleep and can feel that her body is paralysed (apparently the human brain sends a signal or something to the rest of the body (during REM sleep) that paralyses it so that we don't go and hurt ourselves whilst we are sleeping). Only thing is that SWIM can actually sense that she is paralysed and starts to panic. She trys to move (but can't) and tries to make herself wake up (by thinking 'c'mon brain, I know this is just a dream so snap out of it), she'll start to panic and try and scream aloud to wake up (her partner has witnessed this happening and told her that her eyes were flickering ultra-fast and rolling to the back of the eye-sockets. He also said her face was contorted into the most horrible grimace he has ever seen (film: the Ring anyone? - when they find the dead people who've watched the tape and their mouths are twisted into a terrified scream?). lol. Sounds a bit OTT I know, but SWIM can't help thinking about dying and whether maybe when we die, it's only our body that dies (as quite a few religions claim I believe), but, unlike in religion where the 'soul' leaves the body to go to a higher/better place, what if we're all just stuck inside our bodies forever, thinking we're in some terrible nightmare and trying to move ourselves and wake up. Imagine that.....for eternity.
I guess if you want to go down the good/bad route then the 'good' folk will be blissfully asleep forever, having the most wonderful dreams of their lives, whilst the 'bad' folk (of which SWIM is definately one) are trapped in their worst nightmares, knowing that it is only a dream (probably not realising we've only gone and died) and yet never being able to wake up...mummy I'm scared!!!

sorry if I went a little off-topic and sorry if anyone has read this before ( I wrote about these experiences with Tramadol in another thread recently)

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by beena

SWIM has been thinking/worrying about death a lot recently. It all started as a result of withdrawal symptoms from Tramadol, which have been fairly horrific: if SWIM hasn't had the dose her body needs her to take each day before she goes to bed, and she forgets and just goes and falls asleep, then her body goes into withdrawal during sleep. She starts having repetitive nightmares or night-terrors (not sure what the correct definition would be), where she know she is asleep and can feel that her body is paralysed (apparently the human brain sends a signal or something to the rest of the body (during REM sleep) that paralyses it so that we don't go and hurt ourselves whilst we are sleeping). Only thing is that SWIM can actually sense that she is paralysed and starts to panic. She trys to move (but can't) and tries to make herself wake up (by thinking 'c'mon brain, I know this is just a dream so snap out of it), she'll start to panic and try and scream aloud to wake up (her partner has witnessed this happening and told her that her eyes were flickering ultra-fast and rolling to the back of the eye-sockets. He also said her face was contorted into the most horrible grimace he has ever seen (film: the Ring anyone? - when they find the dead people who've watched the tape and their mouths are twisted into a terrified scream?). lol. Sounds a bit OTT I know, but SWIM can't help thinking about dying and whether maybe when we die, it's only our body that dies (as quite a few religions claim I believe), but, unlike in religion where the 'soul' leaves the body to go to a higher/better place, what if we're all just stuck inside our bodies forever, thinking we're in some terrible nightmare and trying to move ourselves and wake up. Imagine that.....for eternity.
I guess if you want to go down the good/bad route then the 'good' folk will be blissfully asleep forever, having the most wonderful dreams of their lives, whilst the 'bad' folk (of which SWIM is definately one) are trapped in their worst nightmares, knowing that it is only a dream (probably not realising we've only gone and died) and yet never being able to wake up...mummy I'm scared!!!

sorry if I went a little off-topic and sorry if anyone has read this before ( I wrote about these experiences with Tramadol in another thread recently)

I have never heard of something like that. It sounds like sleep paralysis with lucid dreaming. You know you're asleep like in lucid dreaming but you're paralyzed like with sleep paralysis. That's very odd. Have you tried meditation? If you haven't you should definitely give it a shot. If you can find out where your underlying fear of death comes from you may be able to come to means with it and no longer fear the sleep paralysis-like withdrawals.

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by Nacho

Okay. In that case, fear of death would definitely be up there. I think I've pinpointed that as my main cause of anxiety.

Why the hell do our bodies hate us? When you're just trying to hang out with your friends and then you're heart starts racing and you're short of breath and you feel light-headed and you have to suck it up as much as possible because most people don't understand anxiety disorder at all and think you're crazy. It fucking sucks./rant.

fear of death. hmmm. this is understandable, the unknown. personally i fear the way i'm gonna die. i have a fear of car accidents being trapped in a pile of mangled steel waiting for help with all your shit hanging out twisted & broken. whoowh. sorry a lil bit of over share there. i've had some accidents & they were actually cool like impaling my arm on a spike, almost cutting off my finger off with a grinder & vehicle accidents the rush you get from the shock is awesome. obviously it depends on the accident. but fear of death that is up to your belief.

amongst friends the anxiety, you'll grow out of this... all to do with the company & crowd & activities you're doing. becarefull if swey does decide to do lsd in these kind of situations, smurf had a terible panic attack on lsd... felt like he was gonna die of a heart attack.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by sylenth

fear of death. hmmm. this is understandable, the unknown. personally i fear the way i'm gonna die. i have a fear of car accidents being trapped in a pile of mangled steel waiting for help with all your shit hanging out twisted & broken. whoowh. sorry a lil bit of over share there. i've had some accidents & they were actually cool, the rush you get from the shock. obviously it depends on the accident. but fear of death that is up to your belief.

amongst friends the anxiety, you'll grow out of this... all to do with the company & crowd & activities you're doing. becarefull if swey does decide to do lsd in these kind of situations, smurf had a terible panic attack on lsd... felt like he was gonna die of a heart attack.

I've heard that from other people too but I've never been afraid of how I'm going to die (and I think I'm glad).

I hope I grow out of it. I've been trying to put my self in situations in which the "triggers" of my panic attacks are there. I've been practicing getting ahold of myself without having to use xanax (because I don't like the idea of being dependent on a drug).

My friend Steve always wanted to try LSD, (not me) but there are of course the warnings for taking it with a family history of mental disorders. He's hoping if he meditates first to get his mind in a nice, calm state and takes a xanax before dropping that he'll be fine. That's if Steve can find LSD in the drug-desolate dump of a city he lives in. If he does, he'll get a trust-worthy sitter and drop at home where he's comfortable.

[belllllaaax]

for me.. anxietys from school, worrying about how i look [im extremly self-concious, its the worst], social anxiety while i was in school, boyyfriend, parents.. unfortunatley i deal with it all the wrong way.

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by belllllaaax

for me.. anxietys from school, worrying about how i look [im extremly self-concious, its the worst], social anxiety while i was in school, boyyfriend, parents.. unfortunatley i deal with it all the wrong way.

yeah, i was always the poor kid at school with the ugly bag, cheap second hand clothes, books, skew nose, zits & worstly been told what to do all the time by the teachers etc... that's where it all starts. then it happens at home & for me i realised when i got a place with my girlfriend it happened here too. then i put an end to her ways to help myself with the anxiety & it worked. when you're young this is very much a reality that most go through causing self conscioussness & self confidence problems.

what actions do you believe are dealing with it the wrong way?

[belllllaaax]

Originally Posted by sylenth

yeah, i was always the poor kid at school with the ugly bag, cheap second hand clothes, books, skew nose, zits & worstly been told what to do all the time by the teachers etc... that's where it all starts. then it happens at home & for me i realised when i got a place with my girlfriend it happened here too. then i put an end to her ways to help myself with the anxiety & it worked. when you're young this is very much a reality that most go through causing self conscioussness & self confidence problems.

what actions do you believe are dealing with it the wrong way?

well, ive delt with problems in bad& good ways.. the good ways being letting go of the people in my life causing so many problems. Once you can do that you feel so much stronger - confidence even can increase. negative ways would be SWIMs drug habbit. My self-conciousness i have to always look my best.. i spend so much money and time. SWIM gets new stuff by illegal ways since SWIM spent so much money on nails,hair, ect. it may sound ridiculos and it is,but its true and i know theyre are other people like that. if im not comfortbale with how i look i do get panic attacks. and not alot of people know that bout me. If im not with one of my better-looking friends in public i feel embarrased/anxious/nervous.. its kind of like peer pressure i guess. My parents and I dont get along. I had depression when i was younger. Everytime my parents werent happy with me id be so upset and it got to the point where i said F you, and i was gna do me. I know i still dissapoint them, i know i dont have as much problems but ill regret it in the long run. I take adderall everyday, which is prescribed for my a.d.d. it curbs my appetite and i hardly ever get hungry. i try so hard to take advantage of that & not eat, bc im not happy with my body. its liek im never satisfied with how i look. im never completley satisfied with anything, ever

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by belllllaaax

negative ways would be SWIMs drug habbit. My self-conciousness i have to always look my best.. i spend so much money and time. SWIM gets new stuff by illegal ways since SWIM spent so much money on nails,hair, ect. it may sound ridiculos and it is,but its true and i know theyre are other people like that. if im not comfortbale with how i look i do get panic attacks. and not alot of people know that bout me. If im not with one of my better-looking friends in public i feel embarrased/anxious/nervous.. its kind of like peer pressure i guess. My parents and I dont get along. I had depression when i was younger. Everytime my parents werent happy with me id be so upset and it got to the point where i said F you, and i was gna do me. I know i still dissapoint them, i know i dont have as much problems but ill regret it in the long run. I take adderall everyday, which is prescribed for my a.d.d. it curbs my appetite and i hardly ever get hungry. i try so hard to take advantage of that & not eat, bc im not happy with my body. its liek im never satisfied with how i look. im never completley satisfied with anything, ever

smurf has always had 'add' too & 'ocd'... but yeah swey needs to look good being a lady you are beautiful & wanna feel beautiful. but you need to ask urself are you being a little over excessive with things? you should'nt think your friends are better looking than you there's more than meets the eye. you'll grow out of this. love yourself i do & it keeps me happy, the freaks always have more character anyway.

the parents thing, they still dissapoint you clearly if you feel that they think less of you for what ever reasons. so dont be phased about that, get on with your life & what makes you happy. they do. who is ever completely satisfied with everything? no one. you only learn to be more accepting of the way things are.

in school i was always the freak & no friends & then leaving school growing up i became the cool freak but then people like you & try take advantage by making you feel 'worthy' of their friendship. dont fall for this becos you being urself & others wanna be like you & become cling ons.

[belllllaaax]

Originally Posted by sylenth

smurf has always had 'add' too & 'ocd'... but yeah swey needs to look good being a lady you are beautiful & wanna feel beautiful. but you need to ask urself are you being a little over excessive with things? you should'nt think your friends are better looking than you there's more than meets the eye. you'll grow out of this. love yourself i do & it keeps me happy, the freaks always have more character anyway.

the parents thing, they still dissapoint you clearly if you feel that they think less of you for what ever reasons. so dont be phased about that, get on with your life & what makes you happy. they do. who is ever completely satisfied with everything? no one. you only learn to be more accepting of the way things are.

in school i was always the freak & no friends & then leaving school growing up i became the cool freak but then people like you & try take advantage by making you feel 'worthy' of their friendship. dont fall for this becos you being urself & others wanna be like you & become cling ons.

thanks for the advice.thts so true.. you learn to be more accepting of the way things are.

[beena]

Well, SWIM has finally managed to halve her tramadol use with the hekp of her key-worker and so these symtoms are easing up at long last but it was really quite scary when it was happening: SWIM would have to get out of bed and take her medication and stay up, usually by walking around the flat at four am in the morning, for at least 30 minutes. Is she fell asleep again before the tramadol had started working the nightmares/terrors would start up again. Sometimes (when SWIM was just so tired she didn't want to budge) she would have five, six, or more of these experiences. Not nice I'm afraid.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by beena

Well, SWIM has finally managed to halve her tramadol use with the hekp of her key-worker and so these symtoms are easing up at long last but it was really quite scary when it was happening: SWIM would have to get out of bed and take her medication and stay up, usually by walking around the flat at four am in the morning, for at least 30 minutes. Is she fell asleep again before the tramadol had started working the nightmares/terrors would start up again. Sometimes (when SWIM was just so tired she didn't want to budge) she would have five, six, or more of these experiences. Not nice I'm afraid.

Well, I hope SWIY gets better. Maybe with the help of meditation like I said would work out. A good therapist can also help you search inside yourself for answers.

Best of wishes,

Nacho

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by beena

Well, SWIM has finally managed to halve her tramadol use with the hekp of her key-worker and so these symtoms are easing up at long last but it was really quite scary when it was happening: SWIM would have to get out of bed and take her medication and stay up, usually by walking around the flat at four am in the morning, for at least 30 minutes. Is she fell asleep again before the tramadol had started working the nightmares/terrors would start up again. Sometimes (when SWIM was just so tired she didn't want to budge) she would have five, six, or more of these experiences. Not nice I'm afraid.

damm beena you need to get off these medications & sort yourself out. that sounds terrible to have so many of these night terrors. i used to have them too the only thing i can reconmend is: to program your mind by telling your self that it is only a sleep paralysis state & you expect it, but not going to worry about it when it happens again becos you know what it is & it really is just a state of sleep that is harmless. everyone experiences it & you have an an understanding of it already.

by doing this you tricking your subconsciouss in to believing that you comfortable with it, so the next time it happens your subconsciouss will kick in with what you programmed it to do & deal with the event. it's basically controlling your dream world. 'it works', not instantly...

you should repeat to your self whilst trying to sleep the words that make you know that it is harmless & not to panic. repeat these until you fall asleep, then it'll sink in to your subconsciousness from your consiousness & within a couple of nights you should'nt be freaking out any more when this happens...

it is all to do with lucid dreaming if you want to read up more on techniques you can, it really is great if you can get in to it. let us know on your progress beena.

sylenth added 5 Minutes and 32 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by Nacho

Well, I hope SWIY gets better. Maybe with the help of meditation like I said would work out. A good therapist can also help you search inside yourself for answers.
Nacho

good advice, meditation is a good idea & one should'nt doubt oneself & think you have too many issues to not be able to take some time & meditate. a little bit of special quiet time goes a long way & does a lot of good, the more you practice the more you become better at it.

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Originally Posted by Nacho

Okay. In that case, fear of death would definitely be up there. I think I've pinpointed that as my main cause of anxiety.

Why the hell do our bodies hate us? When you're just trying to hang out with your friends and then you're heart starts racing and you're short of breath and you feel light-headed and you have to suck it up as much as possible because most people don't understand anxiety disorder at all and think you're crazy. It fucking sucks./rant.

fear of death, if you live in fear you will always have anxiety, it's a consciouss decision to make that gets rid of this... fear of the unknown should'nt be seen as a fear, it should be seen as a surprise. much more acceptable this way, i love surprises naturally 'good ones' but there's no point in pondering on something you do'nt know & thinking negatively about it.

our bodies do'nt hate us, we not doing all we can to make our bodies understand us. it's up to you to educate people about your anxiety so they know their limits when around you. when the anxiety feels unbearable you haved to take note to asess why & train your body by finding the right amounts & types of people to have around you. take note of what works as far as people & amounts go & ease in to more from there.

it sucks the way you haved to monitor yourself constantly & hold your self back in an introverted behaviour pattern. but it does work to have many self awareness benefits from the aspect of being the wise observer instead of just jumping right in there & just doing... smurf has managed to kill almost all the anxiety from these methods with out medication.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by sylenth

fear of death, if you live in fear you will always have anxiety, it's a consciouss decision to make that gets rid of this... fear of the unknown should'nt be seen as a fear, it should be seen as a surprise. much more acceptable this way, i love surprises naturally 'good ones' but there's no point in pondering on something you do'nt know & thinking negatively about it.

I don't know. I like to think about if I'm going to be aware after death with the whole soul having dealie or if I'm just going to rot in the ground (which I'd prefer). I don't think it would be right to just not worry about it. I need to become comfortable with it. I'm just not too sure how that's going to happen.

our bodies do'nt hate us, we not doing all we can to make our bodies understand us. it's up to you to educate people about your anxiety so they know their limits when around you. when the anxiety feels unbearable you haved to take note to asess why & train your body by finding the right amounts & types of people to have around you. take note of what works as far as people & amounts go & ease in to more from there.

I've been trying that lately. I've been putting myself in a bunch of positions in which I know I would get an anxiety attack and when I do, not take anything [like xanax (alprazolam)] so I make myself get over it. But with trying to inform others, it's really hard. I don't do it unless they're friends of mine. People are ignorant (whilst loving being ignorant) bastards.

[sylenth]

i fully understand the whole thinking about the soul or not thoughts. the smurfs ponder on it a lot & i have seen it getting smurfette feeling down & building up anxiety just speaking about it from new theories learnt etc. the thing is not to obsess over it.

smurfs were in a very hectic dangerous environment & it did'nt help with the anxiety & there was always this feeling of pending doom. then they moved & it all became a lot better. as for people been ignorant & loving it even having sayings 'ingorance is bliss' it makes me sick... another thing i noticed yesterday is i even eat too fast in public places & sometimes just about choke because i feel uncomfortable when in certain situations & wanna get back to my place or do what needs to be done & get it finished.

just remember, a lot of these feelings of anxiety are related to our ego death.

i'm noticing my ways & trying to be more chill in the situations just like you, cos you need to get out now & then for a healthy body & mind...