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Old 12-08-2008, 15:44
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hi swimmers. i wanna help & if this kind of thread & info has already been mentioned i'm sorry & it can be deleted or moved. smurf has been addicted to things such as crack,cocaine & other things for 8 years. smurf has'nt been physically addicted to heroine & cant relate to this, but has done research to this. there is alot of things i believe i can help with.

so papa smurf only wants to give some words that might help while dealing with these 'addictions' & 'bad' habits. pls smurf does'nt want to change anyone's minds about what they trying to achieve & are working hard at doing. smurf only wants to try understand & help why people are battling so much with what they are doing & try give advice to overcome these terrible burdens & anxiety that are created in the minds of the swimmers.

smurf sees an addiction that causes problems the same as a person battling with a obesity problem. the person cant just stop eating food as it'll kill him/her physically, mentally & spiritualy it is taxing & straenious on the persons mind as they enjoy food & the lifestyle & things. the things the person is battling with is money issues, health issues, & lifestyle issues from the situation you have got urself in & the pressures society create such as being judged & teased, job/family, obligations this all causes anxiety..... there's never enough of what you want & it's always a mission!

so if a swimmer started drugs cos they enjoyed it just like food. & it became a problem being a bad habit in their lives such as things like bad cash management, losing friends, family & health issues etc... these are all other influences causing these problems & one should just ease their way out of addiction, & see if you decide to want to stop. surely enjoyed the fun in it before it became a problem for what ever reasons.

so my only caring advice from concern is better life management through ananalysis of the problems at hand. i know easier said than done. i have said this before with out wanting to offend any one but if you can try to think out of the box being urself by watching & taking note of all your actions, your surroundings/living conditions & keep movies in your mind as examples of how you dont want to end up like REQUIM FOR A DREAM then you CAN take control of your life & conqour any problem you have. from better self management, better planning through rational responsible thinking, never loose focus on life 'you can still get just as high this way'.

smurf loves drugs admitadly sometimes more than he loves other things in life. so smurf has chosen to become a master of control & have a healthy balance of everything. yeah we all love to let our hair down & have shit loads of fun & to feel goooood. i'm a dj so party is what it's all about. something & people influence & control your life is two different things than you controlling your life. what are you comfortable with? & your morals that you stand by? we all know right from wrong. so at the end of the day there is no excuse to anything.

i have had really hectic shit in my life happen as much as everyone has their stories, all i'm saying is you need to chose for yourself what truly makes you happy & the extreme lengths you are willing to go through to find your true hapiness. with out wanting to sound negative as i am an optomist i cant stop what i enjoy so much. so what i do to deal with my addictions 'which is many things' is to deal with them by not over analysing things to much but 'always' analysing we're adults with our kids ways still in us. finding a way to come up with more cash in the right manner to obtain drugs not by stealing & breaking in to peoples cars & houses or by selling yourself or your belongings. we know right from wrong & can think of the consequences from irrational behaviour & actions. i have been down this path & learnt from my mistakes. it's never too late, some need to bump their heads many times to get it.

what makes you happy in this life? that is all that counts... but look around you, 'out of your binge den' there's so much hapiness, fun & beauty being wasted! other people are doing what makes them happy. you would'nt want to change what makes them happy. to much of a good thing is bad, variety is the spice of life. by choosing life you choose all that makes you happy in life. to be consumed by one thing & the lengths you willing to go through & things you willing to do is sad. we are all strong & can deal with any thing. being consumed by something is not a weak point only a sad thing as there is more to be consumed with in life. it's not selfish it is only human nature to do what makes you happy.

smurf is addicted to hapiness & feeling gooooood! being permanently stimulated from everything possible & happy people is the name of the game. so hopefully i could help to ease the pressure swimmers put on themselves through times like these.

is stopping the answer to a happy life here? personally i cant stop & dont want to how boring! what i've already started, i have learnt now how to enjoy all my addictions & habits to there fullest.

god bless & good luck people. you are all on my minds & in my hearts.

sylenth.

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Old 16-08-2008, 06:12
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Re: i really wanna help & understand...

swim would like to live a life of moderation but the thing is swim does not know what its like to just be happy and content with one or two drinks or whatever.. It seems there was a brief time period that he could do this one or two weeks but his whole life he just loved that feeling and went with it.. So swim is to afraid to try moderation. One day he will try it but doubt it will work... Swim is really happy with no drugs at all as he can concentrate on school and reading things like tihkal and pihkal really good reads...

Hopefully in a couple after a couple years of being sober and getting a degree in chemistry he can contribute much more to the drug community than just getting high..this is swims ultimate goal.
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Old 27-08-2008, 22:19
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NIK's friends in the program call that a "Pink Cloud".

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Old 27-08-2008, 22:53
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swiyspare chaynge, swim agrees. In swims opinon psychelics are the only drugs people should expireince. And swim greatgly respects all those chemist out there making the cid and phenethylamines. Swim already has taken the steps u talk about to contribute more to the community thsn jsut supporting caretls making smack and coke.

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Old 28-08-2008, 07:23
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posted by TRYPTAMASTER: psychelics are the only drugs people should expireince
for smurf psychedelics have also worked really well as a alternative to program the mind from analysing things to stop the 'demonic' acts, lsd has been the theraputic drug recently & it works! the only thing is not to be on it & think oooh a nice fat line of coke would be good now... trust me you dont want to do that cos acid & coke dont mix well. big mind fuck!
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posted by SPARECHAYNGE: swim would like to live a life of moderation but the thing is swim does not know what its like to just be happy and content with one or two drinks or whatever.. It seems there was a brief time period that he could do this one or two weeks but his whole life he just loved that feeling and went with it.. So swim is to afraid to try moderation.
smurf knows the whole story of one line or gram is'nt enough cos you just want more. smurf neally went to get one gram last night after two months of being clean, once it is in you you like a monster that does'nt want to stop. so i understand the best way is to rather not do it at all which is not easy. cos of the irratibilaties, dreams, mood swings etc. so as my first above post said & meant was meaning with not stopping. is not stopping all drugs perhaps just using more rewarding drugs instead cos smurf does'nt want to stop drugs all together...

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Re: I really want to help & understand

SWIM has 6 and a half months clean and not too long ago had an extremely strong urge to go get loaded. However, SWIM deals with it alot easier now.

SWIY has alot more to lose the more clean time you get clean. Plus the more time SWIY gets clean the more they realize just how screwed up they were

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Old 02-09-2008, 19:47
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SWIM has 6 and a half months clean and not too long ago had an extremely strong urge to go get loaded. However, SWIM deals with it alot easier now.

SWIY has alot more to lose the more clean time you get clean. Plus the more time SWIY gets clean the more they realize just how screwed up they were
yeah that's it, cos you think back to all the times you had to SUFFER from those come downs & no money. it is not worth it now that you have found some thing new you want to excell at. all that work of fighting those cravings to be thrown down the drain for one silly craving & inevitable binge! fuck that we stronger than that & have alot more quality moments & comforts in life now. been tempted but the heads have been bumped enough times now to finally get it.
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for smurf psychedelics have also worked really well as a alternative to program the mind from analysing things to stop the 'demonic' acts, lsd has been the theraputic drug recently & it works! the only thing is not to be on it & think oooh a nice fat line of coke would be good now... trust me you dont want to do that cos acid & coke dont mix well. big mind fuck! smurf knows the whole story of one line or gram is'nt enough cos you just want more. smurf neally went to get one gram last night after two months of being clean, once it is in you you like a monster that does'nt want to stop. so i understand the best way is to rather not do it at all which is not easy. cos of the irratibilaties, dreams, mood swings etc. so as my first above post said & meant was meaning with not stopping. is not stopping all drugs perhaps just using more rewarding drugs instead cos smurf does'nt want to stop drugs all together...
I think a big part of it is how you define drugs. Swim has had problems with heroin and coke addiction, she just cannot touch those substances. She has tried moderation and it doesn't work with those things for her, plus the thing is, the negatives increase and any joy she was getting from them dissipated rather quickly.. the novelty wore off, the desperation kicked in, etc. plus with the tolerance steadily increasing it was costing ridiculous amounts of money.. it just made sense to stop completely and from her memories of what those drugs did to her she doesn't ever want to go back. However, she hs had periods of use of other substances over the past couple years of being "clean" from her addiction. So, while swim sees MODERATION as being the overall philosophy of he use, she has also found that it only applies to certain substances which she finds useful, or substances for which the benefits outweigh the risks.

I also think people lump "drugs" together based on legal status (ie. illegal, demonized drugs) whereas swim actually sees addictive or "hard" drugs as being a very different matter from use of psychedelics or empathogens. In fact she would be more likely to lump something like alcohol in with heroin and cocaine, drugs she sees as not being very productive for herself and doing more harm than good, and putting things like LSD, psilocybin, some phenethylamines, etc. in a category of their own. I mean, some people get into AA and take up cigarettes and caffeine.. it's all in how you define it.. but I think moderation, encompassing whichever substances, legal or illegal, one chooses to consume is a very worthwhile philosophy. But I do also think that there are some people who need to completely abstain, just based on their personalities or goals or perceptions of what is beneficial or useful for them. (But, to "completely abstain from all mind altering substances" is generally not an accurate description, as most people will still consume alcohol, or caffeine, or nicotine, or prescription drugs.. so it is still just a matter of where one draws the line I guess..)

Also I think in case of true addiction it is rare to be able to resume moderation. Perhaps in some cases it does happen, but I generally perceive moderation as applying more to either casual users of addictive substances, OR to the use of substances other than the addictive substance in question when referring to the addict. Although there are certainly people who can use moderation for portions of their use, and then have portions that get out of control, and go back and forth between moderate use and abuse, I guess I would see that maybe as the line between abuse or overuse, and addiction..

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Old 03-09-2008, 11:01
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that is all the facts presented MODA00
thing is with these drugs that are categorised is the fine line between how to use them. the best is to just leave them behind as exercising restraints for moderation is something a human naturally does'nt want to do as it seems pointless, if you compare it to all the other things you do in life to the max until you run out of what ever is driving you.

so trying other alternatives is really the best route one can pursue to get out of the habit/addiction from the drug (s) one has gotten consumed by. at the end of the day you are screwed with the facts of you ca'nt always have what you want for as long as you want with out having harsh consequences eventually.

so really if you can just try go be exentric & enjoying everything other than what has had you so consumed, you have a great unrealistic reality of distracting yourself with all the other fun things that can stimulate you to pull you out of this addiction. which are many the world is your oyster 'cliche' once you have all your things managed better in life such as your priorities ie morals & financial status from the lessons & insight you have come to learn then you can move on slowly.

smurf really did'nt want to let go of that life style & good feelings that never dissapointed as it was so fun! but you haved to cos when you look at things out side of the box past your self you realise YOU ARE STUCK IN TIME missing out on a whole lot of other cool by things holding yourself back. you are'nt really living, loving & appreciating. you're merely existing by following the wrong things that crush your soul of who you are & wanna be from what you have 'used' to find your self & define your character & personality. you are'nt loving yourself any more the way you want to.

it's time to move on & moving on takes time, the longest thing we do is live so do'nt beat yourself up about it. waves of change come in huge waves as progress unfolds... that is when you realise you are doing the right things & the moment is now & you just keep rolling with the good waves of lovely all round feelings with the usual up & down days which is like normal healthy people.

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