Health - Opiates VS Alcohol on the liver

[eklypised]

Swims not talking bout taking them together, swims talking bout which ones really worse for swimmes liver seperate, taking opiates or drinking alcohol?

And how long does it take for opiates to have a bad effect on swims liver?

[ThusSpokeZarathustra]

Swim doesn't really have much to contribute, other than Swim has a friend that's been doing opes with apap in them for like 3 years, and doesn't generally have liver problems unless he drinks hard liqour, then he gets pain in his liver. Maybe that means alcohol is worse? idk!

curious to see more thread contributions, though.

[waltz#2]

As far as SWIM knows, opiates do not tax the liver. It's the apap attached to pharms, and the junk in the junk that would cause liver problems. An opie on it's own will probably never hurt a SWIMMERs liver as long as it's not packaged with apap.

[ThusSpokeZarathustra]

Originally Posted by waltz#2

As far as SWIM knows, opiates do not tax the liver. It's the apap attached to pharms, and the junk in the junk that would cause liver problems. An opie on it's own will probably never hurt a SWIMMERs liver as long as it's not packaged with apap.

Yeah, exactly, but some of the most abused opiates are those which contain moderate to high amounts of apap (vicodin, lortab, percocet, tylenol 3s and 4s, etccc).

[eklypised]

Swim should have changed the title..Swim ment APAP vs ALCOHOL...how long does it take for APAP to have a bad effect on the liver

[Vagisil]

yea, APAP is horrible for the liver. one should try doing the ones without it. that's y swim loves opana.