narrowing my decision down

[korky8097]

hey guys,

I have been researching these chems on the net for a while now and im
still iffy on which to get. So perhaps you could help. I am
looking for a chem that is very visual preferably interesting visuals
with colors and clearity (i have heard some things on 5meoamt such as
the visuals arent clear), low body load, speedy somewhat so you
can dance and what not. Ive narrowed it down to these, but if
there is a different one you reccomend just name it. I am not a
novice to psycadelics, done lots of acid so dont think "beginner" too
much.

5-meo-dmt (hear its like being shot out of a cannon)

5-meo-dipt (hear its like x but more "versitile" with visuals)

5-meo-amt (if somebody can elaborate on clarity of visuals)

2c-i (good starter from what i hear)

2c-t-7 (or any of the 2c-t-x's if somebody wants to tell differences)



thanks for the help, i know you get this stuff alot, but it seems on
most of them the person asking the question isnt very experienced with
any psycadelic.

[korky8097]

oh and is 5-meo-dmt any good oral? If so doses?

[hacnslash]

it's good oral if you take an maoi, i believe doses should be the same.

[korky8097]

same as snorrting or smoking? And is there a good MAOI OTC?
I have amitriptiline lying around and i was to believe it was a
MAOI. Or should i just go with syrian rue?

[serpent]

4-ho-dipt is very visual and very lovely horny feelings,2ct2 is quite energetic,am thinking of trying this combo out as an ecstacy alternative.5-meo-dmt is just too intense for any real interaction,all the people i know who tried foxy were disapointed,it just made you feel uncomfortable,with no visuals or enhancement of music.2ci and 2ct2/7 are realy good for music as well.havent tried dancing on them yet,just lovemaking.

[korky8097]

thank you, i will further research 4-ho-dipt. Are erections still
difficult to get with it like with x? It would be nice to be able
to feel all that and actually be able to have sexual interaction unlike
with x. Is 2-ct-2 very visual? I just love being able to
spend the night on the town, walking, driving, chillin at other peoples
places. But i also am fond of chillin at home for a true trip,
Like i do with LSD (I read up on my leary and shit and definatly go for
mystical/life enhancing trips). Like almost all of my chems come
at the same price for 100mg so it would be nice to have a somewhat low
dosage chemical to get more bang for my buck. Thats really the
only reason i considered 5-meo-dmt. Any more thoughts?

5-Meo-DMT is not what you want for visuals or for being out and
dancing. It is what you want for sitting down and having the shit
kicked out of you (in a good way).



2C-I is good for some visuals, a lot of stimulation, and fairly easy time interacting with other people. It has some euphoria.



2C-T-7 has INSANE visuals, the best of any drug, even including LSD
maybe. It's also pretty stimulating. Not always super sociable but not
antisocial either. Only drawback for some people is the body load.
Personally when I snort it the body load isn't bad, BUT, be very very
careful if you decide to snort it, a few mg one way or another can make
a huge difference and you WILL wind up in the hospital if you overdo
it. 2C-T-7 can send your blood pressure and heart rate to the moon and
scare the hell out of you even if it doesn't kill you.



5-MeO-DIPT is pretty much a waste IMO. OTOH 4-HO-DIPT is pretty good,
good visuals (though not always consistent). 4-HO-MIPT is even better.

[korky8097]

excellent, damn its so hard choosing just one. What about doses,
for the kinda trips you are talking about. I am only gonna be
getting 100mg of whatever so i want to stretch it as far as i
can. Im broke right now so i just want to try something out, and
if its good, ill get more during the summer when i actually have cash
flow. Thanks.

[GDxCAT]

id go with 2ct7 if i were you. It seems like it might be one of the best psychedelic drugs around. Also AMT sounds interesting.

2ci is good for dancing and has decent visuals.

and i highly recomend 4ho dipt, although its not a party drug it is a
very beautiful experience. I havent sampled 4homipt yet but believe
victorborge that it is even better.

[allyourbase]

2ct21 is more visual than 2ct7 at similar dosages, very stimulating, lacking a tad in euphoria and emotion, definately powerful.


5meoamt is VERY visual, depending on how much you take, very euphoric


2ct2 not bad


2ct7 not bad


2ct4 not bad


4HODIPT meh, its more of an emotional psychedelic than anything else, visuals, while present, are best described as lacking


5meoDMT great stuff if youre into meditation


5meoDipt its certainly an experience....but it isnt much fun....


2ci decent


2ce has its own distinct character, amazingly introspective

[korky8097]

nice, what kinda visuals do you get with 5-meo-amt? Ive read some
erowid things saying they saw ladders coming out of the ground and all
this crazy shit. Sounds fun. Ahhhh decisions decisions.

[freakybass]

The visuals on 5-meo-amt are very clear, and not scary. You don't see
new stuffs appear like "ladders coming out of the ground". But lots of
things are deformed in your field of view. There are some circular
movements. Every time there are movements.

The colors are differents and don't stop to change. And everywhere you are able to see patterns like "persian-carpet" type.



It's good to try a vaccum cleaner on a carpet when you do 5-meo-amt



Note:Experience with 6mg.

[serpent]

the only one which seems to detract from sex is dxm.if you are ordering from where i think you are,id go for 2ct2,4-ho-dipt and 2ci.t2 for visuals/horniness,4-ho for empathy/spiritual experience,2ci for social interaction(we went for a meal on 10mgs of this).

[GDxCAT]

i too am pretty sure of where u are ordering from and would suggest
2ct7. (and now after doing more research on 5meo amt it seems like it
may be what u are looking for. Low doses and good visuals.)

[korky8097]

they all sounds good in their own way. If i got the meo-amt i
would need to get a damn good scale, or do the water/alcohol
thing. But what about material sticking to the sides and what
not? Would usuing isopropyl and drying doses then capping
work? Im glad yall know where im ordering from, have you had good
luck from there? I guess i have narrowed it down to 2c-i, 2c-t-7,
or 5-meo-amt most likely. Is there much stimulation with the
later 2? Again thanks for all the help, i just hope i dont
get ripped off seeing that the place only takes cc, dont want my cc #
all over the web. I dont know if like hinting the name or
something to confirm you know where im ordering from is allowed, so i
will hold back. Thanks

[drwoo]

I haven't tried 2c-t-7 yet, but out of 5-meo-amt and 2c-i I would definately say 2c-i would be the best choice for what you are looking for. The one drawback for 2c-i is the peak is realativly short. 4-5 hours for me. 5-meo-amt is long duration, but I have tried upto 8mg at one time and some small supplements and it wasn't near the experience of 2c-i. I dunno if I got crappy supply or what, but it really wasn't anything compared to how much I enjoyed good ole AMT. or what other people have had when they experienced it. So my recommandation goes 2c-i. I am gonna try out 2c-t-7 soon I expect to like this as much or more than 2c-i.

[mariecurie]

Well AMT is really good, but the doses are so high that if you're
ordering 100 mg then it's worthless. That would only be ~two doses.



2C-I is a worthless psychedelic in my opinion, although it's certainly
a fairly safe drug to ease into the world of psychedelics with. No
spiritual experiences here though.



5-MeO-DiPT is better than MDMA in terms of horniness and such, but I've
always found the body load to get heavy before the visuals start. At
15+ mg this drug is equivalent to having a five hour full-body orgasm.
If there is acid or anything around though, I would never choose this.



5-MeO-AMT is something I'm not sure about. I've tried it a couple times
and I got a shitload of nausea and millions and millions of
trails/tracers/smears. Personally I didn't think the visuals were very
clear. It looked like someone smeared my visual field over and over
again. Don't order this or 2C-T-7 if you don't have access to a scale.



5-MeO-DMT is VERY different from the others on this list. A man who I
respect very much describes it as a three minute conversation with God
and I feel this does it justice. I recommend it in general, although if
you're thinking of ordering a drug like 2C-I this is SOOOO different it
might not be what you're looking for.



Never tried 2C-T-7. Thought T2 was a lot like MDMA but I've only
experienced a small dose. T4 I've only done with a hefty insufflated
dose of 5-MeO-DiPT so I can't comment on this one, although the high
was certainly enjoyable.



Good Luck

[korky8097]

i dont have a scale right now, my old one which weighed to only .1 (for
weed) broke. So im going to make the everclear solution and cap
it or something. I am really considering the 5-meo-amt
because of the low doses. Length of trip isnt a huge deal to me
really, i always make sure i have a free day afterward. Between
the 2, which has more energy/euphoria. Thats not gonna be my
deciding factor, but it plays a roll. Thanks all

Edited by: korky8097

[GDxCAT]

2ct7 and 2ci would be the more euphoric ones.

2ci doses are lower than t7 but higher than 5meo amt.