Opinions - Best sleeping pill?

[indira3]

As said before, I first thought zolpidem the best alternative; somehow, suffering each night from somnambulism, and aafter severla sever traumas, the worst having taken place 1 month ago (cerebral commotion with skull fractures and amnesia), I consider it more dangerous than flura/flunitrazepam.

[indira3]

Please disregard my tipping mistakes.... TY!!!

[rocksmokinmachine]

SWIM thinks flurazepam and flunitrazepam have much more dangerous and addictive qualities than zolpidem.

[valium_mark]

i get 11 5mg valium a day and valium are not a sleeper the strongest sleeper used to be temezipam there ok for vthe quick hit but nitrazipam last longer i usewully mix them a cocktail but i need a min of 11 a day or im up the wall thank the lord i have a god gp who stops me buying them

[rocksmokinmachine]

40mg is currently the maximum prescribed dose in the UK (just droped from 60mg) except in special circumstances (i.e. withdrawal from illegally obtained benzodiazepines in special clinics.

Speak to SWIY's doctor.

[valium_mark]

i think it deepends on your age your tolerance etc im 40 and as i have stated before im on 11 5 mg tablets and 120 mg of 1 in 1 methadone and i am now on 3 nitrazipam sleeping tablets i did want to cut down but due to circumstances im finding it to hard , hence my dad is terminally ill .
i get my tablets and other medication of my gp not the drug clinic , as they have a limit to what they will give out you must access the user properly and see they get the right dose may be im on this dose as i dont use illicit drugs besides cannabis , and my life as been crap to say the least >> myself i wish life would just end im up early again as its pick up day today and i feel like death warmed up what more can i say , ill just keep trying , as for the best sleeping pill it all deepends on preference .
temazipam give you a god instant hit and will help you sleep but nitrazipam are longer lasting through the night , but dont get me wrong i have took sleepers of a day and thats not good , drug users are not thick in fact more intelligent i feel we just dont always put it into practise as the disease is hard to cope with anyway

[spa]

Ambien does a nice job to stop the constant racing thoughts I have...

... its for lower range insomnia. There are much more powerful chemicals to help you sleep.

[indira3]

Thank you spa, Ambien (_zolpidem?) caused me to get up at night, and - I don't remember but waking up hours later in a blood bath and 2 skull fractures...... No, thanks..... I am now on 3-4 diff. substances, no more zolpidem, it's my death!!!!!!

[rocksmokinmachine]

Flunitrazepam closely followed by midazolam. Benzodiazepines are the only thing that does it for SWIM these days.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Steva

Amen.
Swim loves the buzz off Ambien.
He was taking 6 during the day for the buzz effect.
Also put stomach asleep so swim lost weight ala phen/Fen.
Swim no longer uses Zolpidem.
A few beers and 1mg gador xanax
will induce swim to sleep.
Swim did take Seconal,Nembutol,Tuinal many years ago
and they were more effective than ambien.

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

Originally Posted by spa

Ambien does a nice job to stop the constant racing thoughts I have...

... its for lower range insomnia. There are much more powerful chemicals to help you sleep.

Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you.

Originally Posted by rocksmokinmachine

Flunitrazepam closely followed by midazolam. Benzodiazepines are the only thing that does it for SWIM these days.

I fully agree with that. Temazepam is a pretty good hypnotic as well, but after a while, or in very severe cases of insomnia, it doesn't work well enough. In those cases, fortunenately flunitrazepam does indeed do the job. Though after a long period of use, like all benzo's, even flunitrazepam loses it's effectiveness, not just due to tolerance, taking a higher dose still won't work after extended periods of usage. I noticed something very weird though 2 months ago when I still took flunitrazepam once in a while. When I took my dose, I felt it come up in 10 minutes and it had hit my like a brick wall in 20-30 minutes, almost making me pass out. I wasn't even capable of brushing my teeth anymore, I just dived straight into bed. But 2,5 hours later I woke up again, feeling extremely lethargic but unable to fall asleep again. I would be unable to fall back to sleep the rest of the night and morning, unless I took my dose of midazolam, which I just took as there was no other option. Really weird that it didn't keep me asleep, but instead I always woke up a few hours later, on the verge of falling back asleep again, but not actually falling asleep, especially because flunitrazepam is long acting.

[molly5190]

for pure sleeping purposes I say melatonin. two pills gets SWIM asleep on 70 mg of adderrall.

[hbombhbomb]

Melatonin

[Jatelka]

^^^ And why is that? Without an explanation single words are not ever-so helpful

[hbombhbomb]

Sorry! It's herbal, easy to get and doesnt usually make one groggy the next day. I find it helps with REM sleep with no side effects.

[Jatelka]

Thank you

[drab4]

Originally Posted by bubaloo

What do you think is the number one sleeping pill?

Swim's personal favourite benzo for sleep is temazepam
Followed by zolpidem
Then diazepam
Then bromazepam
Then zopiclone

And those are the only benzos and derivatives he has tried. Other sleeping stuff that Swim has tried (melatonin, anti-histamines, GABA, GHB) either do not work very well or have unpleasant side effects

[testodan]

From what SWIM have tried,SWIM says Trazodone knocks him out baad.Quited cause its makes him groggy for a long time next day,And, increase the appetite too much.Then is zopiclone,best for him,in which is on now.The nasty with Z drugs is that have a great tolerance,especially if Benzos are not being used together.

SWIM shall megadose benzos to sleep as the way with zopiclone sleeps.

Z drugs are definitely addicting,(not in recreational way but only as sleep meds).

[UpperAndDowner]

In SWIM's opinion, the most effective sleeping pill has to be Zopiclone. However, it does leave a very bad taste in your mouth the next day.

SWIMS's routine before bed-time includes the following mix:
- Take valium (diazepam) 10 mg or so,
- then 50 mg of Trazodone followed by
- 10 mg of Zopiclone.

He has found the above mix to be quite effective. However, the dry lips and mouth caused by the Trazodone is often very annoying and becomes even more uncomfortable thanks to the bad after taste of the Zopiclone.

[rocksmokinmachine]

Originally Posted by UpperAndDowner

Trazodone is often very annoying and becomes even more uncomfortable thanks to the bad after taste of the Zopiclone.

This is caused by the changing PH in the mouth. A tiny dusting on the finger of citric acid or vitamin C will solve this problem. Failing that, a nice acidic drink.

[UpperAndDowner]

Ahh, good advice indeed! Thanks mate! :P

[AquafinaOrbit]

Zolpidem is the most effective I have used, I stopped though because of sleep-walking and hangovers. Currently my doctor is prescribing me Trazodone as they claimed it should have less of a hang-over feeling and not as dependency forming. IMO though it makes me feel even worse the next day then I would of if I got say 3 hours of sleep over 8 with Trazodone. It also really is not that strong and takes about 1.5 hours till it finally puts me to sleep.

[soma]

After some experience, swim ranks the following substances in order (these are high doses, he's very tolerant- dont try this at home):

1. Alprazolam (8mg)
2. Clonazepam (8mg)
3. Temazapam (120mg)
4. Zolpidem (30mg)
5. Eszopiclone (12mg)

He used to rank Carisoprodol highly, but has since stopped his use of this substance due to addiction.

[dreamingawake]

SWIM would say zolpidem is the best. But having tried no other hypnotics and using only benzos as other sleeping aids, she's sort of biased.
She's having a nice little time on it right now, and she'll try to finish the post before things start getting incoherent.
Its an excellent sleeping aid if you are not using it recreationally - SWIM gets 7 - 8 hours of lovely refreshing sleep, so nice you could almost bound out of bed in the early morning!

And if SWIY is going to use it for recreational purposes, well, if SWIY can manage to stay awake on the stuff, its an all-round nice drug, feel a bit giggly and confused at first, this turns into a sort of happy confusion, limbs and head feel all heavy and..well..tired, duh! and lovely light hallucinations, breathing walls, etc.. but the higher you go with the dosage, SWIM has found that she became extremely deluded which can be a bit frightening. Also, SWIM wouldn't recommend using with alcohol as hangovers are exacerbated.
The whole memory loss thing is a bit strange, SWIM has been up on it for two hours and will not remember writing this post!

[200Ponies]

Nitrazepam is the only one that is long enough acting for me to get a full nights sleep, I prefer my GBL at the moment though.

[UpperAndDowner]

Meant to quote rocksmokinmachine on my last post, and not my own post lol. Anyhow, that was great advice and it worked like a charm! Cheers!