Drug info - Newbie questions! Hurray! Please answer quickly!!

[aBakes]

So my panda is an experienced drug user, but has not yet done opiates. He has access to a good amount of codeine. it's APAP/codeine 300-30.

he weighs about 180-190

so what he is wondering is first. what would be a good amount? he is going to be getting 8, but how many should he take. he doesn't want a buzz, he wants the full on high

secondly, does he HAVE to do the CWE? he knows it's terrible for the liver, but he only plans on doing it MAYBE once a year. if that.

My panda thanks you all in advance

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[tryptamaster]

Swim recomends doing about 175 for a good high, maybe 200 if you wanna push it. Thats makes around 2 grams apap. You would probabl be ok, but a cwe is so easy and they work very will. (swim is quite knowledgabe in this area) Its better to jstu get the damn apap out it is hard on the liver.

[drug-bot]

read this, all the info one needs- http://www.erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml

[0utrider]

or in my siganture is the CWE faq

[aBakes]

thanks for all the help guys. much appreciated.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim would start around 60mg for opiate naive. 175 would get Swim pretty high even right now after using for a bit!

Swim's first dose was 90mg, and would not have taken any more to start. That was after using stronger opiates for about a year too. What if the OP was allergic to codeine?

Opiates are all about working your way up to where you want to be, at least to Swim.

[cra$h]

use outrider's cwe method. the apap will make you more sick, and for the amount of work put in, the benifits are overwhelming.

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great post, good recommending the cwe faq ;)

[thealmassi1]

For a full on high u need 300 to 400mg in SWIM's opinion, SWIM doesn't bother taking doses any less than that, but I would check if your panda has the extremely rare condition of being alergic to it first before experiencing a nice, relaxing, euphoric couple of hours. And SWIM suggests using sleeping pills too to potentiate it even more. SWIM only does once every 1 or 2 months since tolerance builds up at an insane pace with this drug and the effects are pleasurable but not ecstatic.