Culture - How does the world of dealers work? I dont understand dealers =/

[joeyo124]

How do they get started?
How do they let people know they sell, and how in the hell do they network so easily?

[Stephenwolf]

they get started probably by making buddies with the person who helps their buddy out... and then make buddies with who helps Him out. then buy large amounts... or they can do a grow ya own and they generally sell to friends first then others as their friends recomend... its not too hard to start dealing its just too risky.

[BuffaloBoobs]

Drugs sell themselves.
Stephenwolf is spot on, man. Spot on.

[kaczynski]

Yeah, SWIM had a good friend his first year of college who eventually moved up pretty high in the dealer chain. Both he and SWIM started out as broke potheads with no connections. However, by the end of the year SWIM was still a broke pothead while his friend had befriended their dealers, then eventually befriended the dealers' dealers, allowing him to get mass amounts of amazing weed for very cheap. It's all about making the right friends. Once people know SWIY is selling, word spreads quickly, particularly if it's a hard drug or psychedelic.

[old hippie 56]

"Once people know SWIY is selling, word spreads quickly, particularly if it's a hard drug or psychedelic."
The dangers of selling to a large group of people. One of the main reasons a dealer don't have very good job security. They seem to go to jail after a while.

[Alfa]

This is one of those threads where the staff will need to delete posts and infract members until we have no other option than to close it. Please stay away from posting prices or even remotely implying that you deal.

For those who are not aware of it; we are VERY strict in this respect and will ban swiftly.

[sylenth]

understanding a dealer is like understanding a good chef or a good car sales businessman with a good product. not hard to understand. some businesses are less risky & predictable cos there is a certain amount of quality control on the products than others some have better products than others. with enough time one can do anything one wants to do by meeting people etc...

kaczynski has already got a similar thread he started in the drug culture section swey can read up more there.

[nEone]

There are two types of dealers, SWIM thinks...


Opportunistic entrepreneurial types - they see an opportunity to trade in the rich business of escapism and fantasy - they make a business out of dealing. They make up funny names and grand claims about their wares, they cut their product to increase their margin, and they probably don't do the drugs they sell...they either don't do drugs at all, or they do better drugs.

Then there's the dealer who loved getting high with his buddies, and realized that buying in bulk could make it cheaper for everyone...and his circle of friends grew until he realised that he could still give everyone a good deal and he'd get to get high for free - as a kind of reward. The casual dealer.

How does someone become a car salesman? Or a chicken farmer? They find themselves drawn to it...either out of a love for the car or chickens, or out of a love for the art of the sale.

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[Politicalchalk]

Swim likes to happen to Grateful Dead-type shows when he can. Some people hold a single finger in the air, others casually mentioned the name of the drug as they walk by, some poeple just hold mushrooms out in the their hand for all to see. Some common phrases "Who's got my....?"

This is generally restricted to hippie circles though.

2 rules:

KNOW your market demographic
and
LOCATION,LOCATION,LOCATION

[Shiacmkmleer]

SWIS knows a drug dealer very well. When he started selling bigger dealers found him. SWIS has been told that people higher up on the food chain have one big trend: secrecy. The only people who know they sell are the people they find.

@ nEone
SWIS believe there is a third type of dealer. Very similar to the first type you mentioned but different. They see their product as another commodity, they are very professional, do not lie about their product and do not fuck around.

SWIS has never sold drugs nor does he ever plan to.

[cra$h]

it's weird how it happens, and guaranteed it's not planned. just in casual conversation things are brought up, and drugs make great conversations. But you'll find other people with "similar intrests" who make offers, and you figgure sure, I'll try it out. then a friend will call asking if you have anything, so you'll call around, and hook up your friend. But you'll charge a little more, like a tax for your services. Then more and more people call, then you pick up more and more, and once you're known for holding even a little bit of what ever drugs you're into, it won't change. Then you start making money, experiment with other drugs, and you just blow the fuck up. Happens fast, and things get ugly even faster.

[Lobsang]

Originally Posted by Politicalchalk

Swim likes to happen to Grateful Dead-type shows when he can. Some people hold a single finger in the air, others casually mentioned the name of the drug as they walk by, some poeple just hold mushrooms out in the their hand for all to see. Some common phrases "Who's got my....?"

This is generally restricted to hippie circles though.

2 rules:

KNOW your market demographic
and
LOCATION,LOCATION,LOCATION

Ha...The finger in the air takes me way back. Do they actually do that at the Dead type shows now adays?

[Politicalchalk]

What's funnier is how long it took Swim to figure out what the hell they were doing!

Nota Bene: Swim once attended a show where that was the main signal. Some guy actually managed to sell "heady" string for a dollar with that method. Oh tripping hippies...

[Lobsang]

Well SWIM remembers that the DEAD concerts were like a drug flea market. With barkers hawking their wares. One could just walk around ouside where all the people were hanging out. Dancing and drumming with baloons and all kinds of colorful things. It truely was one big consiousness...Like one body.

[sylenth]

here in our country the dealers used to have a look to them it was quite funny.

they all wore a cap & a puffy jacket. they were all dealers. & yes the raves too are a good location to meet high flyers with the party tricks. they have obvious catch on lines. like are you ok or are you looking for something...

[tatt]

SWIM doesn't know how it works in the rest of the world. But here in Bristol, UK people that i don't know can always pop to certain clubs on certain club nights and be guaranteed to pick up. SWIM finds drum and bass nights tend to be the easiest.

Generally SWIM just starts dancing, and is asked within 30minutes.

[cra$h]

people go around just openly goin got weed? to people, they say yea dude, although increadibly risky to deal to a stranger, it's another way to get goin.

[Nacho]

It's just like any other business.

Answers to your questions in order:
1. Start with own supply or with someone they know's and build stock.
2. Advertise. When someone says, "damn, i wish i had some weed" then the dealer might say "how much?" or something to get the point across and to do business.

They might tell their friends to look for customers or something.

3. I assume the networking is caused by the huge demand and the want of money.




I don't know about the higher-ups. This is all just stuff I've been told about the lower-level dealers.

[dpayne]

Swims knows 3 types of dealers

Dealers who start to support own Habbits
Dealers who start to make money
Dealers who start becuase of unreliabilty of sources both in quality and availability and they believe they'll keep it lowtime between a selected group. High Quality below the price of shitty street gear and readily available on their terms.

[kckool]

Originally Posted by nEone

There are two types of dealers, SWIM thinks...


Opportunistic entrepreneurial types - they see an opportunity to trade in the rich business of escapism and fantasy - they make a business out of dealing. They make up funny names and grand claims about their wares, they cut their product to increase their margin, and they probably don't do the drugs they sell...they either don't do drugs at all, or they do better drugs.

Then there's the dealer who loved getting high with his buddies, and realized that buying in bulk could make it cheaper for everyone...and his circle of friends grew until he realised that he could still give everyone a good deal and he'd get to get high for free - as a kind of reward. The casual dealer.

How does someone become a car salesman? Or a chicken farmer? They find themselves drawn to it...either out of a love for the car or chickens, or out of a love for the art of the sale.

SWIM thinks that these two types of dealers are often combined in various ways. For example, how about the dude who loves getting high with his buddies, and realizes that buying in bulk can have him smoking free. Since he's a stoner, he knows he can network very quickly and rapidly develop a good sized, relatively safe consumer base. So this dude then realizes that if he buys in REAL bulk, he could make a lot of money, and smoke for free any time he wants, with as many people as he wants, as often as he wants. Because when you're talking about BULK, no amount of personal consumption is any more than a drop in the bucket. SWIM thinks that this sort of dealer could and does logically arise.

[dpayne]

Originally Posted by kckool

SWIM thinks that these two types of dealers are often combined in various ways. For example, how about the dude who loves getting high with his buddies, and realizes that buying in bulk can have him smoking free. Since he's a stoner, he knows he can network very quickly and rapidly develop a good sized, relatively safe consumer base. So this dude then realizes that if he buys in REAL bulk, he could make a lot of money, and smoke for free any time he wants, with as many people as he wants, as often as he wants. Because when you're talking about BULK, no amount of personal consumption is any more than a drop in the bucket. SWIM thinks that this sort of dealer could and does logically arise.

SwiD honestly believes anyone to suceed at making money and dealing in bulk would have to be very self controled and obey the rule number 1 from scareface and "Not Get High On Their Own Supply".
Ultimetally the stress, time, co-ordination and planning of such things are fare beyond the average dealer arissing from habbit suport/free smoke scenario. But swiD does believe once some people have had enough of wasting their money or getting nothing for all the work they stop using a given substance but then realise since they are no longer indulging can really change their aproach and capitalise shouting show me the money.

[EyesOfTheWorld]

Note: the finger in the air at Dead-related shows means "I need a ticket" It has absolutely nothing to do with drugs. Of course, the person with said finger in the air may also be selling, but the finger is simply code for "i want to buy/trade for/be given your extra ticket". Trust me on this one, been going to these shows longer than some users have been alive

[Herbal Healer 019]

A friend, SWIM used to deal (bud) and found that making the right connect was the easiest way to start an entrepeneurship. By buying around from other top dogs in small quantities SWIM would compare prices until a legit connection was made; SWIM would go by the ounce and make double sumtimes triple in profit...but this has its risks and shouldn't b attempted without assuming every risk & every angle and I am not in any way condoning what SWIM used 2 do. That friend doesnt do that any more tho due 2 witnessing 2 many people SWIM knos face serious legal charges. SWIM tells me dealing is def. a shady/risky game and sumtimes it just aint worth the $

[fiveleggedrat]

That's the main premise of lower level dealing: Buy a bulk piece, break it up, and sell it in smaller pieces.

Selling bulk and selling personal are VERY different.

[JaWill88]

swim knows some pretty high up dealers who sell only cocaine and heroin. they do not use and probably never will. it is only to make money. when they stock up (about once a month) they usually get at least a few kilograms of cocaine and a few kilograms of heroin (black tar). they are columbian and most of them are part of the same family. they have been doing it here for at least over a decade, maybe two. they network incredibly well. they cover a TON of ground. seattle, shoreline, lake city, lynnwood, ect. and seattle is HUGE. basically swim will call one person and tell them where swim is. they will send whoever is closest to swim. swim just gets in their car and they give it to him and they drop swim off where he was picked up. it is pretty crazy. there is a reason they never get caught. they frequently get new cars, new cell phone numbers, and nobody knows their real names. it is quite amazing in swims opinion. they have a very, very steady client base and have so many customers they usually don't want to meet new people which is very smart. this is probably because they mostly sell to dealers and what not who pick up a couple ounces at a time. they are not stupid and act like fucking scarface or some shit. they are business men and thats it. in fact one of them swim is actually friends with, has a part time job at mcdonalds just working a few hours a week. of course he doesn't need it, but he does it anyway. he is incredibly proud of his job and the fact that he works like any other citizen. it's really cool. anyways swim can say he is very privelaged to know them.

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