Effects - Crack vs. smoked Meth (which is more powerful/which is worse)

[theWasp]

Swim used to have a crack problem. Swim has smoked, and snorted meth a few times over the past few weeks. Swim has read several posts which state that the rush from smoking meth is even more intense than crack, however, swim actually gets more of a rush from snorting.


Swim likes the energy that meth gives him, but in terms of rush, and euphoria, swim finds that crack gives a rush AT LEAST 50 times more intense than meth. Is this possibly because swim smokes off tinfoil, and not a pipe?

swim would like to hear from those who have tried both to see how others find the two drugs compare. Maybe swim's body chemistry is just strange?

p.s. Crack is a horrible, horrible drug. Swim is NOT advocating that anybody try it.

Thanks

[sylenth]

smurf agrees with swey. crack has a much more intense rush than meth. there is no other method to go about smoking them for better effects compared to each one. smoking with a pipe is the strongest method out of the two imo. yes crack is a horrible drug so is meth. meth lasts longer & is worse imo, it eats you up quickly...

[theWasp]

Thanks for the reply, Swim bought a pipe and found it to be considerably better than foil. But nevertheless the rush is not even close to the rush from crack. And if meth is worse than crack, swim is going to be in trouble. Swim can't imagine ANYTHING being worse than crack. Your comment is making swim reconsider his meth use.

[kaczynski]

Sorry, this doesnt' pertain directly to the thread topic, but what exactly does SWIY mean by "horrible?" Horrible as in very addictive or in regards to health detriments? SWIM is just curious because at some point he may find himself in a situation to sample these drugs and has already had a cocaine problem.

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by kaczynski

Sorry, this doesnt' pertain directly to the thread topic, but what exactly does SWIY mean by "horrible?" Horrible as in very addictive or in regards to health detriments? SWIM is just curious because at some point he may find himself in a situation to sample these drugs and has already had a cocaine problem.

smurf has abused both these drugs & realised the consequences & alot of coke too as swey says. smurf can say from his side it is horrible as it gets most people by the balls. it is highly addictive. let smurf explain it like this so swey gets an idea how good & bad it is.

remember the first time swey rolled properly on xtc. ok now a crack rush is the same kind of intense rush as that, just it's the coke feeling & only lasts about 5 minutes & then ya want more & the come down is harsh & unsociable. it's too nice & takes alot of control to do the drug with no after/future regrets. it's all about the individual at the end of the day for health & addiction.

if swey had a coke 'problem' then this will be a problem.

sylenth added 7 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by theWasp

Thanks for the reply, Swim bought a pipe and found it to be considerably better than foil. But nevertheless the rush is not even close to the rush from crack. And if meth is worse than crack, swim is going to be in trouble. Swim can't imagine ANYTHING being worse than crack. Your comment is making swim reconsider his meth use.

if one pays attention to himself over time swey will see for himself what it does. for smurf, smurf is not a big guy from all the drugs since young & the meth just eats you up literally & to try gain that weight back even after years of stopping has'nt worked. when ur mind starts playing tricks on you like in alot of reports on the forum then swey will start realising. swey can try it for a while & see for urself. time reveals all the answers.

[theWasp]

Swim mean worse in every possible way. I'm sure SWIY knows how one tends to redose again and again when using powder cocaine. multiply that by 100 and that's the addictive potential of crack. coke is a kiddy drug compared to crack. Everything is amplified by 100 times. The high is WAY more intense, but only lasts for about 5 minutes ,if that. The comedown makes you contemplate killing yourself. It is exponentially worse than any coke or meth comedown swim has ever experienced. The only way swim can describe how he felt while using crack is "sub-human." The comedown starts after about 5 minutes after your first hit.

There is an extremely (and swim wants to emphasize extremely) strong urge to smoke crack again within 5-10 minutes after a hit, but swim would force himself to wait 15-20 minutes because he was afraid of having a heart attack. Swim has spent HOURS of his life watching a clock waiting for it to change to that magic number which meant he could take his next hit.

It always amazed swim how his personality, thought patterns, and priorities would change after the first hit on any given night. After the first hit all you care about is your next hit. Swim has passed on many social functions, and even--believe it or not--sex, because he was only interested in continuing to smoke crack. Swim can totally understand how people can do horrible things (lie, cheat, steal, prostitute themselves etc.) in order to get more crack. Once you take your first hit crack is ALL one cares about, at least until one gets some sleep.

I'm sure SWIY has noticed that the problem with cocaine is that people can never reach a point where they can say "this is a great buzz, I'm just going to enjoy it for awhile." This causes many people to do another line every 40 minutes to an hour. With crack, the buzz is so intense it can only be described as orgasmic (actually much more intense than an orgasm), but instead of feeling satisfied afterwards, one feels indescribably unsatisfied, depressed and sub-human which leads one to crave another hit.


In terms of addiction potential, Swim has always loved his drugs mostly pot, mushrooms and other soft drugs. Before he got into crack, he was an intelligent, streetwise honors student with wonderful friends and a pretty good life overall.

After less than a year of fairly regular (maybe 3-6 times a week) crack use, swim had to take a year off school because he was simply a wreck and couldn't function. He also racked up 6,500 dollars in debt on his credit card. Swim would have NEVER racked up any debt before crack. If swim had not had such great friends and family to support him, he would have for sure ended up on the streets.

Crack addiction is twofold, the short-term cravings after one has done a hit are unbelievably intense. But those short-term cravings disappear after a night's sleep. However, there are also more traditional long-term cravings. There have been dozens and dozens of times when swim was disgusted with himself for his crack use, and felt good and proud of himself for not using for a day or two. But then it's just like something "snaps" in swims brain making him instantly (and for no obvious reason) go from 100% confidence that he is finished with crack to calling his dealer. That was the most disparaging part of the addiction.

Health wise- physically, it wasn't much worse than coke. one can get a bad cough after a night of crack, the lack of sleep obviously is bad, but swim has found that sleep is easier after a night of crack, than a night of meth. Also there are worse body aches and whatnot than with coke. In swim's experience the "bad" part of crack was his mental, as opposed to physical health.

Swim also had a cocaine problem before he moved on to crack. If SWIY has also had a cocaine problem than trying crack will definitely be a nightmare.

Sorry about the length of this post, but Swim really, really wants to convince swiy to not try crack. It was the worst decision swim has ever made. It stole 2 years of his life, and even after not using regularily for over a year swim still gets cravings, and has had some slips.

So the above post which claims that meth is worse than crack scares the shit out of swim.

One last thing. most people (especially those of us who have had cocaine addictions) cannot "sample" crack anymore than we could "sample" coke, which was my intention the first time.

Thanks for letting swim rant, and hopefully swiy won't make what would certainly be the worst decision of swiy's life.

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	good advice here
	thanks for the extensive post, swims definately staying away from that stuff after that
	very well written story
	Good informative post.

[sylenth]

yeah all this sums it up. smurf has been there selling alot of things stealing things etc... smurfs problem was the people that gave smurf his first hit gave a whole big rock & it was grade a shit & was amazing & too nice as mentioned & it was chaos from there. so as like swey said pls rather dont do it.

good advice, just like the meth. pls stop. dont use it it's like the cartoon with the little devil sitting on ur shoulder.

[EducatedUser408]

I'm gonna have to disagree........Meth is way more powerful than crack........SWIM has tried crack before and it did nothing........Actually went to sleep shortly after.........Also, there are hella people who used smoke crack that have switched over to meth........How do you explain that??

[JaWill88]

swieducated- swiy just smoked it wrong then. it seems a lot of people do their first time. anyways as others have been saying swim 1000% agrees crack rush is wayyyyyy stronger than a meth rush. smoking meth can give a little head rush and what not, but no bell ringer, deaf, heart racing, vision fucking, rush. the crack rush is the second most powerful rush in the world. only second to... intravenously injecting cocaine powder. smoking crack is 1000 times snorting coke. iv'ing cocaine is 100 times stronger than a crack hit. it is complete insanity. oh yeah the only reason swim has seen anyone switch from crack to meth is because of the price. meth= way, way longer lasting high but not as intense, and wayyy more affordable.

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[SmokingBowls420]

Swim believes that although meth is much worse of a drug, cocaine in itself is more addictive.....Swim has never done crack, but his share of coke and smoked a LOT of meth for the half a year he was a binge user....

Swim found that Coke produced a FAR more powerful mind-fu*k towards getting more, Swim got no real noticable effects, however all he cared about for several hours after was getting more coke.....With meth, Swim finds that it has a FAR more satisfactory high, and its much easier to put the pipe down and enjoy the high for 2 hours before the rush is over and he wants another few hits....

Meth is 3.5 times better at releasing dopamine than cocaine. What confuses swim tho is that although Meth lasts alot longer, feels ALOT better, and its WAY cheaper, and in all his use he never stole till the end of his addiction, his first time with coke, he simply didn't give a flying sh*t and was ready to steal to get more.....Swim is terrified to find that crack is 100 times worse than this, when with Coke, swim was already being a total fiend even tho he quite frankly, thinks the high is a waste of time and would gladly choose Meth over it.

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[chillinwill]

SWIM has been addicted to both of these at one time or another in his life and has found that smoking crack is so much better than smoking meth; however, if one wants a high that last a whole lot longer, smoking meth will produce a high that lasts 50x of crack....also, since meth's high lasts longer, one would need to do the drug less frequently thus making it more cost effective

both of these drugs are highly highly addictive though but as for the powerfulness of the rush, SWIM would have to say crack wins hands down

[theWasp]

Originally Posted by EducatedUser408

I'm gonna have to disagree........Meth is way more powerful than crack........SWIM has tried crack before and it did nothing........Actually went to sleep shortly after.........Also, there are hella people who used smoke crack that have switched over to meth........How do you explain that??

Yea, there is no way swiy smoked it right. as for sleeping shortly after, that's because crack doesn't last as long. Sometimes it can be had to sleep after crack, but mostly because of the overwhelming desire to get more. Swim agrees that it is much harder to sleep on meth than crack, but that's just becuse meth lasts longer. Being able to sleep doesn't mean that crack's rush isn't as strong as meth's.

And swim is one of those people who used to smoke crack but has switched over to meth (which he is now reconsidering). Swim can only speak for himself, but meth is cheaper, the euphoric feelings (although 100 times less intense) last much longer, and the down is bad, but not nearly as bad as crack. Also, as a relative newbie to meth, swim doesn't feel like a sub-human fiend on meth the same way he did on crack.