Telekinesis

[seeingred]

Swim can't say that it is for sure true, or proven, but when Swim consumes more than one caffeinated beverage, caffeine pills, or other caffeine-like supplements swim has noticed that objects do in fact act accordingly with the emotions, perceptions of Swim's mind.

Swim has noticed that swim has been able to hold swim's hand close or far away and have the object stop, to watch it begin moving again. the perpective is frightening, which is partially why a part of swim's mind might be shutting out the idea that it's true. But it was true.

Swim started taking caffeine pills daily to combat diet, caffeine, and fatigue syndrome. There were effects of feeling a little crazy, hearing people say things and getting freaked out...but also swim videotaped an experience and although some were critical it's been obviouse. Swim was able to move a pendulum inside a jar, a stone attached to a string just by focusing on it intently with "Energy" this electro-magnetic energy source come from something biological, and probably spiritual too...

The telekinesis was something swim had wanted to experience again, but let go of the idea. The occult and other things intruige swim but swim is wary of those things for they can bring darkness and confusion.
People don't want to believe or understand. But it can be proven, scientifically as swim has observed the phenomena is intense...it is confusing too...because you have to strip away some fears to get to that perceptive ability..

Swim still has doubts. Has any swiy had any experiences with crazy experiences while in heightened states of awareness?
The objects noticed were random things, a rubber ball on the floor, a string attached to the wall, a towel?, curtains without the window or fan..and
most of all...also seeing the light of the computer seemingly flash from the light of the overhead light- as if a paralell resource.

And that was the more complicated and surprising thing. Just like, seeing the computer light turn on when it was entirely off and unplugged, flash accordingly to the diningroom light.

Thanks.

[staples]

A few things stuck out at me and I have a few questions...

Originally Posted by seeingred

Swim can't say that it is for sure true, or proven, but when Swim consumes more than one caffeinated beverage, caffeine pills, or other caffeine-like supplements swim has noticed that objects do in fact act accordingly with the emotions, perceptions of Swim's mind.

Swim has noticed that swim has been able to hold swim's hand close or far away and have the object stop, to watch it begin moving again. the perpective is frightening, which is partially why a part of swim's mind might be shutting out the idea that it's true. But it was true.

You don't really seem to say how drastic the metaphysical change is. The observer-expectancy effect is usually to blame for things like this...

but then you say "also swim videotaped an experience and although some were critical it's been obviouse." which brings me to my next question: May we see SWIY's video?

Originally Posted by seeingred

Swim started taking caffeine pills daily to combat diet, caffeine, and fatigue syndrome. There were effects of feeling a little crazy, hearing people say things and getting freaked out

how much does SWIY take? This sounds like it's touching on psychosis?? Are others in your family very sensitive to caffeine and other stimulants? Actually, do any of them also experience metaphysical phenomena with caffeine?

Originally Posted by seeingred

People don't want to believe or understand. But it can be proven, scientifically as swim has observed the phenomena is intense...it is confusing too...because you have to strip away some fears to get to that perceptive ability..

Hm, I have a couple books on metaphysics, actually one was geared towards telekinesis because I was mostly interested in it at the time, but I'm not aware of any scientific proof here...

[podge]

Iv heard concentration meditations are the primary step in beginning to control focus which some people claim is the beginning step to learning telekenisis. So this may explain why caffeine may have effected swiy. As debatable as the actual authenticity of this and other abilities are.

[Metomni]

Try doing it without caffeine and see what happens.

[seeingred]

Originally Posted by Metomni

Try doing it without caffeine and see what happens.

Recently it seemed to occur again after experimenting with Native American Shamanism, and smoking tobacco cigarettes. The thing swim noticed was more disregarded, as swim feels a need for more grounding and spiritual foundation before embarking on testing this phenomena.

The "gnosis" swim has experienced also produced a strange phenomena of seeing auras on objects, connecting with the higher self...also seeing the presence of a white object which swim thought was a guardian perhaps.
These all sort of jumble together, but swim has been seeking God and not the occult, feels more of a pull towards faith and love spiritually but also resonates a lot with Native American ideas on how to perceive soul and soul-fragmentation.

Swim has been able to notice this without it having to do with caffeine. It seems that the caffeine heightened swim and stimulated swim's brain, particularly reaching areas that are undiscovered...it is confusing to swim.


Swim will try to explain more as time goes on.

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Originally Posted by staples

A few things stuck out at me and I have a few questions...

You don't really seem to say how drastic the metaphysical change is. The observer-expectancy effect is usually to blame for things like this...

but then you say "also swim videotaped an experience and although some were critical it's been obviouse." which brings me to my next question: May we see SWIY's video?

how much does SWIY take? This sounds like it's touching on psychosis?? Are others in your family very sensitive to caffeine and other stimulants? Actually, do any of them also experience metaphysical phenomena with caffeine?

Hm, I have a couple books on metaphysics, actually one was geared towards telekinesis because I was mostly interested in it at the time, but I'm not aware of any scientific proof here...

That's the crazy thing. Swim knew what swim saw...but others said that the video was manipulated or that there was nothing special about it.
First off, when swim uploaded the files from swim's handycam they all blackened...then swim refreshed the computer and they were back.
But the images seemed distorted in a strange way.

Swim may explain it, but it would involve another case of telekinesis.

The videos show SWIM with a small blue gemstone once used for a necklace, it is attached to a metal chain. The gemstone is placed in a jar so as no wind or outside influences would interfere. There was no air conditionar on and the windows were closed.

The pendulum or rock on the chain was attached to a stick so it dangled over the jar at medium height. It would move whenever swim looked at it, but that's not all. Swim experimented just laying in bed looking up at swim's dreamcatcher and pointed from a distance the way the feather should move....it moved accordingly, but in a strange way. Almost as if it needed heightened mental energy and also it needed, your eyes not to deceive you.

When swim uploaded the pictures, swim noticed that swim could manipulate the image with swim's mind, and the speed...
So anyways, Swim will post more later.

[Metomni]

Sounds pretty cool. Keep us updated.

experimenting with Native American Shamanism

Can you elaborate?

[seeingred]

Originally Posted by Metomni

Sounds pretty cool. Keep us updated.



Can you elaborate?

These things happen to SWIM all the time.

[kaczynski]

No offense, but telekinesis is a bit far fetched. SWIM is more open-minded about telepathy.

[seeingred]

Originally Posted by kaczynski

No offense, but telekinesis is a bit far fetched. SWIM is more open-minded about telepathy.

Well the cases weren't too extreme. SWIM has also experienced some "coincidences" of telepathy. SWIM doesn't need professional help for this reason. The belief in Telekinesis is just something SWIM wishes to believe in. Swim has seen objects that seemingly move when swim was in a highly excited state. And even madea a video of it, but that's all debatable. Welcome to debates. Not to the idea that swim is "crazy".

[Nature Boy]

Is SWIM the only one rolling their eyes upwards right now? Sorry folks, but this is ridiculous. If you claim it can be proven scientifically, can we see this proof please? I'm sure it would make the headlines in every newspaper worldwide if it were true. The fact of the matter is, just because you perceive something in your own mind based on superstitious assumptions that still doesn't make it true. I'd liken it to children believing in monsters living under their beds.

[seeingred]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Is SWIM the only one rolling their eyes upwards right now? Sorry folks, but this is ridiculous. If you claim it can be proven scientifically, can we see this proof please? I'm sure it would make the headlines in every newspaper worldwide if it were true. The fact of the matter is, just because you perceive something in your own mind based on superstitious assumptions that still doesn't make it true. I'd liken it to children believing in monsters living under their beds.

The problem is that it takes SWIM to a destructive level to get into this state, and it didn't make headlines but look it up on youtube, there are tons of supposed Telekinesis videos. SWIM removed hers because swim was embarrassed. And people said, to put it on the floor, not the table, with her full body in view as to "prove" that this was indeed accurate and not something else. There was no wind, no vibrations atm, not her hand,nothing else and it felt real. But the thing was, it is also psychologically confusing, to see something that is scientifically proven false suddenly happen and guess what? The only way to do it is to step beyond science. You can't just do it skeptically, you have to believe it, and to believe it you also have to believe in spirit and soul and energy and it's complicated....things blur too much.

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Originally Posted by kaczynski

No offense, but telekinesis is a bit far fetched. SWIM is more open-minded about telepathy.

Step beyond the mind with the internal voice, and you can reach telepathy...step beyond the mind with an energy source and you have telekinesis....the source of energy combines both the internal mind and acting will in accordance with the reality around us...if you believe in empathy...it's pretty simple actually. Explaining it is the hard part and even harder is proving it to the skeptic.

seeingred added 1 Minutes and 41 Seconds later...

It seems to be too much about cause and effect.

Native American Shamanism,

Swim wrote an article illustrating the general views. basically: God is the life-force that works through nature, &
To connect to your God and become enlightened you need connected to your higher self and to be empowered through her, Mother Earth.


Here's an article:

Whoever believes in psychokinesis, please raise my hand. Psychokinesis (PK) - sometimes referred to as telekinesis or mind over matter - is the ability to move things or otherwise affect the property of things with the power of the mind. Of psychic abilities, true psychokinesis is one of the rarest. Few have been able to demonstrate this ability, and even those demonstrations are highly contested by the skeptics.
Do people have psychokinetic powers? Do you? Is there a way you can test and develop your PK abilities?
Case studies
Here are brief outlines of some people who have demonstrated remarkable PK abilities:
Stanislawa Tomczyk. Born in Poland, Tomczyk came to the attention of investigators when it was reported that startling poltergeist-like activity occurred spontaneously around her. She could control some telekinetic feats, but only under hypnosis. In this hypnotic state, Tomczyk took on a personality that called itself "Little Stasia" who could levitate small objects when Tomczyk placed her hands on either side of them. In the early 1900s, one investigator, Julien Ochorowicz, watched these levitations at very close range and observed something like fine threads emanating from her palms and fingers, although they were examined carefully before the experiment. And it didn't seem to be a trick. "When the medium separates her hands," Ochorowicz observed, "the thread gets thinner and disappears; it gives the same sensation as a spider's web. If it is cut with scissors, its continuity is immediately restored." In 1910, Tomczyk was tested by a group of scientists at the Physical Laboratory in Warsaw where she produced remarkable physical phenomena under strict test conditions.
Nina Kulagina. One of the most celebrated and scrutinized psychics to claim psychokinetic powers was Nina Kulagina, a Russian woman who discovered her abilities while attempting to develop other psychic powers. Reportedly, she has demonstrated her powers by mentally moving a wide range of nonmagnetic objects, including matches, bread, large crystal bowls, clock pendulums, a cigar tube and a salt shaker among other things. Some of these demonstrations have been captured on film. The skeptics contend, of course, that her abilities would not stand up to scientific testing, and that she may be nothing more that a clever magician.
Uri Geller. Geller is one of the most well-known "psychics" who has publicly demonstrated feats of psychokinesis: spoon and key bending have become almost synonymous with Geller's name. Although many skeptics and magicians consider his metal-bending performances nothing more than adroit sleight-of-hand, Geller has allegedly shown that he can manifest the effects over great distances and in multiple locations. On a British radio show in 1973, after demonstrating key bending to the astonishment of the host, Geller invited the listening audience to participate. Just minutes later, phone calls began pouring into the radio station from listeners all over the UK reporting that knives, forks, spoons, keys and nails began to bend and twist spontaneously. Watches and clocks that had not run in years began to work. It was an event whose success surprised even Geller and thrust him into the spotlight.
Some magicians may be able to duplicate some of these effects, but there may be legitimacy to this telekinetic phenomenon. In April, 2001, University of Arizona psychology professor Gary Schwartz conducted a "spoon-bending party" at which about 60 students were able to bend spoons and forks, with varying degrees of success, seemingly with the power of their minds. (Do you want to try it yourself? Here's How to Host a Spoon-Bending Party.)
Poltergeist Activity
Some researchers contend that the most common form of psychokinesis is one that is not consciously intended. Poltergeist activity, they suggest, might be caused by the subconscious of people under stress, emotional turmoil or even hormonal peaks. Without conscious effort, these people cause china to fly off shelves, objects to break or loud rappings to emanate from their houses' walls, among other effects.
In the same way, PK might also be responsible for phenomena experienced at séances. Table tilting, knockings and levitation might not be caused by contact with spirits, but by the minds of the participants. And, yes, many, many séances have been hoaxed over the years, but if you think the paranormal phenomena documented at some séances is not real, read the article How To Create a Ghost.


ow Does It Work? How psychokinesis works is unknown for certain, but many parapsychologists think that it is a demonstration of the physical influence of a person's brain on the physical world.
Robert L. Shacklett at Speculations about PK says that laboratory tests demonstrate that "the release of relatively large amounts of physical energy can be triggered by thought power." And this power can move or influence things, essentially, because cosmologically we are all connected to everything else. "'Thought' takes place at a different level than the physical (call it 'mind') but interacts with the physical through a weak coupling between physical energy and a more subtle energy form," he says. "The physical level operates in accordance with natural law except at the times when thought interacts with it."
How remains the puzzle. But there are theories:

• Some researchers suspect there might be a quantum connection. Unpredictable, often bizarre effects have been documented in the world of subatomic particles, ruled by the perplexing laws of quantum mechanics. Are our minds capable of directing subatomic particles and energies in a way that results in PK phenomena?
• One theory is that psychokinesis is the manipulation of a sort of human "magnetic field" around the body, which can be concentrated in a specific area. For this to work, they say, you must be able to relax completely and focus your attention without distraction.
• Another speculation is that mediums or participants in a séance are able to coalesce sound or heat waves within a room to form coherent energy which can then be directed at an object, such as a table, causing it to move.

Although the "how" of PK remains unknown, research and experimentation on this fascinating phenomenon continues in respected research labs around the world. (Go here for a brief history of psychokinetic research.)
Developing and Testing Your Psychokinetic Powers
Can anyone have powers of telekinesis?
"Everyone has the potential to be able to be telekinetic," says Deja Allison at Telekinesis on Crystalinks. "Telekinesis is created by higher levels of consciousness. It cannot be created by 'wishing it' to happen on the physical level. The energy to move or bend an object is created by a person's thoughts created by their subconscious mind."
Several websites suggest ways that you might be able to develop or strengthen powers of psychokinesis. Using Psychological Telekinesis says meditation and a kind of chanting, which they provide, can help train your mind for the task, even though they offer no proof of any kind that it really works.
Mario Varvoglis, Ph.D., author of PSI Explorer, suggests that the best way to begin testing psychokinetic powers is not by trying to move a table or even a matchbook. Varvoglis says it's much better to see if you can influence movement on a microscopic level - micro-PK. Micro-PK has been tested for years with such devices as random number generators, in which the subject tries to influence the random outcome of the machine in a way that is much greater than chance. Some of the most interesting tests of this kind were conducted at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Laboratory (PEAR) laboratory at Princeton University - and their results show that some people really can influence the computerized random number generators with the power of their minds.
Spirit Online offers this seven-step method of improving your PK:

1. Meditate daily for half an hour, 15 minutes if your schedule is too busy.
2. Attempt PK at least once a day, twice if possible. Give yourself a good 30-60 minutes to try it.
3. Focus on one method for at least a week; if it shows no results, switch methods.
4. Be at ease; instead of taking it too seriously, think of it as an experiment, a game. If you try too hard you'll just end up frustrating yourself and you'll get nowhere.
5. Don't give up.
6. Don't tell yourself you can't do it, because you can.
7. BELIEVE!

This site also provides instructions for a few tests you can set up and conduct at home.
There are a few online experiments where you can test your psychokinetic abilities:

• Online Psychokinesis Experiment provides three different tests in which can try to move a red line on a colored bell curve, try to influence the appearance of a randomly generated shape, or try to influence the position of a blue circle on the screen.
• RetroPsychoKinesis Experiments Online also offers three tests: the same bell curve test as above, a clock face that you try to manipulate, and a pendulum whose swing you try to influence. If you succeed at demonstrating psychokinesis, be sure to let me know.

SWIM isn't sure if the article's links are allowed. So correct swim if this violates anything.

Also, Swim has a personal view that one thing to watch out for- the reason swim doesn't really test it right now is the shadow, or the unconscious...everything is connected by an invisible thread, and there are certain things the spirit and the psyche must work out before weaving these threads of the subconscious mind...

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by seeingred

But the thing was, it is also psychologically confusing, to see something that is scientifically proven false suddenly happen and guess what? The only way to do it is to step beyond science. You can't just do it skeptically, you have to believe it, and to believe it you also have to believe in spirit and soul and energy and it's complicated....things blur too much.

Isn't that a bit convenient? Stepping outside the provable deems it worthless ultimately. You are confusing fantasy with reality.

Uri Geller and all those clowns are merely pretending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9FjjrbQabw

[podge]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

Uri Geller and all those clowns are merely pretending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9FjjrbQabw

Ok im not a fan of uri geller, and i dont especially believe he is genuine. But.... in all fairness, this isnt in anyway conclusive. How does one explain away his "feats" done over the radio waves ?

And also their were a list of many "psychics/telekenetics" given, and i am not familiar with all of them myself but isnt it a bit hasty to brush it all off as crap based on a singular youtube video ?

[lostmente]

swim believes telepathy is the basis of tele-kinesis, swim has performed tele-kinesis by assuming an object did indeed have a will of its own and with the help of a young one this belief was enough to have the ball do its own thing.

Swim likes to believe that we are just that, a belief in potential and that the reality which we impose most upon tends to perform to our expectations.

Atoms are much like people.

[Mutil]

occasionally odd things happen like this...deja vu (i think it's usually due to forgotten dreams), i'll ask someone a question or they'll ask me a question and the other will have just been thinking the same thing, i'll get this weird vibe and then shortly afterwards something will move or drop...nothing dramatic, just little odd things making me wonder.

[seeingred]

It makes sense that others have doubts.I had doubts myself. I recorderded a video of the pendulum moving within a jar, while i focuse upon it. Haha, I am all out of caffeiene pills, but for some reason it had seeemd, whether or not I was confusing fantasy with reality- that these objects began moving, Not only my pendulum, stuck in a jar so no outside inflences would get in the way, but also featheres on my dreamcatcher and other random things...that i am sure might be epxlained away easilly by sciienfitic proof. could have been subtl vibrations throughout the house,
I' feel bad I deleted the videos, I felt too embaressed. But people thought i had moved it first befor it began swining. who knows! I'm glad youall were interested intthe discussion/ btw I do see a therapist/p-doc. Who does seem to help me. But sometimes it's good to disprove reality.

[guldenat]

Originally Posted by seeingred

It makes sense that others have doubts.I had doubts myself. I recorderded a video of the pendulum moving within a jar, while i focuse upon it. Haha, I am all out of caffeiene pills, but for some reason it had seeemd, whether or not I was confusing fantasy with reality- that these objects began moving, Not only my pendulum, stuck in a jar so no outside inflences would get in the way, but also featheres on my dreamcatcher and other random things...that i am sure might be epxlained away easilly by sciienfitic proof. could have been subtl vibrations throughout the house,
I' feel bad I deleted the videos, I felt too embaressed. But people thought i had moved it first befor it began swining. who knows! I'm glad youall were interested intthe discussion/ btw I do see a therapist/p-doc. Who does seem to help me. But sometimes it's good to disprove reality.

No offense, but you shouldn't regret deleting the videos. You are wasting mental and emotional resources on this mumbo jumbo. I'm telling you with certainty you do not possess telekinetic abilities. I say this as a favor to you, because it isn't healthy for people to get wrapped up in this sort of thing.

[seeingred]

yeah, I guess so. I have been on a few occult forims where lots of people say they can do certain unusual things. Telekinesis is one of them but I have this thing where the part of mind mind that might be capable of doing something, like this, seems to also be the part of my mind that confuses objective reality.

One of the reasons I deleted the video, was it was silly....neways, and to prove it exists would take a lot of willpower, and it just hasn't seemed to work as much anymore.

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Originally Posted by guldenat

No offense, but you shouldn't regret deleting the videos. You are wasting mental and emotional resources on this mumbo jumbo. I'm telling you with certainty you do not possess telekinetic abilities. I say this as a favor to you, because it isn't healthy for people to get wrapped up in this sort of thing.

You're probably right. I can get too into escapism, and maybe that was a part of it...trying to prove these things when they could easily be explaned.

[guldenat]

Originally Posted by seeingred

yeah, I guess so. I have been on a few occult forims where lots of people say they can do certain unusual things. Telekinesis is one of them but I have this thing where the part of mind mind that might be capable of doing something, like this, seems to also be the part of my mind that confuses objective reality.

One of the reasons I deleted the video, was it was silly....neways, and to prove it exists would take a lot of willpower, and it just hasn't seemed to work as much anymore.

That's all understandable. I think it is normal for people to want to believe we are special, or are capable of more. It is just important to have reasonable expectations. Many swimmers use drugs and have great experiences and get a feeling of 'oneness', and that there is 'more' to the human condition, but some unfortunately don't know when it's time to return to reality.

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[seeingred]

Of course, people aren't that special. We're just like all the other animals in a lot of ways. Drugs can alter your perceptions, but what Swim is saying is that is seems that when the mind's perceptions are altered, reality itself seems to alter slightly. Unlike a matrix, when you can suddenly jump of a building and bounce back up, but in the case of music, or frequencies of electricity- there seems to be a deeper science to it. Swim doesn't remember the TK well enough, it was awhile ago and since then hasnt really attempted, it feels draining to attempt, much like a psychosomatic action would be damaging to the person's mindsets and mental state.


But telekinesis is something a lot of even scientists are studying, the way our thoughts influence the world around you- I dont deem that as crazy. Even though I do have a chemical brain imblanace. I do know the difference between reality and fantasy, actually, it's the chemical imbalance which causes paranoia...nothing more...

I hope that makes sense and SWIM is not doing anything out of SWIMs place.

[emersonthecat]

Hmmm...I'm not sure, I've never had this type of experience, but I definitely think different substances and chemicals can activate parts of the brain that we don't normally use, that would induce these types of things. That is my theory anyways. I think some people automatically have that part of their brain activated and that is why some people experience this without any substance. I wouldn't let it scare you though!