Amanitas for drug beginner?

[Anon_90]

Basically, SWIM is very bored with life at the moment and is getting bored with just getting drunk at every social gathering. He is thinking of buying Amanita Muscaria and is wondering whether this is appropriate for a "drug virgin". He is wondering what would be the best form of this drug for a beginner?

SWIM also thought that shrooms were illegal in the UK and is wondering why UK companies are allowed to ship them. (sorry if he needs to search harder, just tell me if he does.)

Thank you.

[Nargyle]

Amanitas are not for beginners, they are really strong and most of the time not really that pleasant, for a beginner swim would reccomend mdma or shrooms, with mdma being first, but definitely not amanitas, also swiy's first time doing any psichedelics shouldn't be in a setting were most people are drunk, it would be best taken in a small group where everyone is on the same state

[organik]

that is a terrible idea... SWIM suggests that SWIY experiment with marijuana first to understand the feeling of getting high and then move on to Hawaiian Baby Woodrose because that will get you a feel for psychedelics and also teach you to cope with stomach pains during the process. Then SWIY may want to try drugs like amanitas and shrooms and mdma which can be very intense and if SWIY don't no what its like to have such an altered form of being may lead to SWIY freaking out

[Coconut]

Originally Posted by Anon_90

Basically, SWIM is very bored with life at the moment and is getting bored with just getting drunk at every social gathering. He is thinking of buying Amanita Muscaria and is wondering whether this is appropriate for a "drug virgin". He is wondering what would be the best form of this drug for a beginner?

SWIM also thought that shrooms were illegal in the UK and is wondering why UK companies are allowed to ship them. (sorry if he needs to search harder, just tell me if he does.)

Thank you.

Amanita muscaria is not illegal as it does not contain psilocybin or psilocin - its primary psychoactive constituents are muscimol and the more toxic/less potent ibotenic acid. Amanitas are nowhere near as well-known or popular as mushrooms containing psilocybin and its analogues so governments have mostly ignored them (for now). They produce drastically different effects to psilocybin mushrooms and SWIM would strongly advise against beginners experimenting with it without a great deal of psychedelic experience behind them.

If it helps though, SWIM knows how SWIY feels with regards to alcohol.

[cra$h]

if you've only been drunk, try smoking some weed. trying mushrooms as your first psychedelic is just dangerous. What it does to your mind is unimaginable

[Panthers007]

For Amanita Muscaria (and Pantherina), having experience with psychedelics is, of course, a good pre-requisite. But due to the chances they were improperly prepared - having someone skilled in first-aid is also a good idea. Being able to monitor heart-rate and blood-pressure in case things go south. It's rare, but people do get very sick on occasion from mushrooms - any mushrooms.

Good to have someone who knows if calling a ride to the hospital is needed. Or if nature 's course will be sufficient.

[leadcoffin]

How out-of-their-mind is this hypothetical person trying to get? Drunk-style wasted, totally berzerker, or just a nice calm relaxation?

[Beeker]

Set-and-setting always! I can tell you this much - if you're willing to take some advice and use it.

Friends on alcohol and you on shrooms (or any potentially strong psychedelic) is painful even at low levels. Your friends are jackasses when they have alcohol in them and you'll pick up on other weird vibes from them that normally you wouldn't if they were stoned or just sitting in on you.

Amanita is something I've only toyed with and I'm in love with everything about mushrooms! I didn't like the high - it wasn't something I'd go outside on to interact with people. You won't be to social and people might wonder why you took off your shirt and shoes while staring, without any real intent, towards some poor girls cleavage.

Taking amanita mushrooms then going to a party for the first time is about as safe as trying Datura for the first time (and last I assure you) at the local city park.

The best drug for a you, as a lvl 1 head needing exp, logically would be Cannabis. Forget about it being illegal, so was that beer when you were 12. I absolutely give you permission to break this law on a plant. It's your social responsibility and moral obligation to break any law that is a flat out human rights violation.

... now, I'm not saying go out and get 2 pounds of the stuff or start thinking about selling drugs for profit. In America hustling is a 99% guarantee for 5 to 10 years in a federal prison.

Beeker added 320 Minutes and 33 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by Anon_90

SWIM also thought that shrooms were illegal in the UK and is wondering why UK companies are allowed to ship them. (sorry if he needs to search harder, just tell me if he does.)

Amanita Muscaria has nothing in common with the traditional psychedelic mushrooms mostly found in the Psilocybe family.

Muscaria contains mostly Muscimol. Muscimol has the effect somewhere between Datura and ... something. It's one of those things, "Well, how does it feel?" It's like a really controllable Datura intoxication without the extreme delirium of Datura's scopolamine and atropine. It's a dream state but not one as extreme ...?

Anyway Amanita Muscaria is legal to sell for the same reason you can go out and buy yourself some Datura plants for your garden. The effects don't threaten the government with some new 1960's revolution and more then likely you won't want to do it again.

Psilocybe mushrooms contain the most powerful entheogens you will find in nature (some say DMT but I know of nothing you can just pick up and smoke for a DMT rush; nor just eat because it has some MAOI along with n,n,Dimethyltryptamine.)

Its major psychoactive compounds are:

• Psilocybin (4-phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine)
• Psilocin (4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine)
• Baeocystin (4-phosphoryloxy-N-methyltryptamine)
• Norbaeocystin (4-phosphoryloxytryptamine)

Psilocybe cubensis is considered the most common of the hallucinogenic mushrooms ... Common as in places it can be found worldwide - year round, as long as it's humid, temperature of 70f, and there are grazing animals taking dumps on the ground you will find Psilocybe cubensis. You will also find Panaeolus subbalteatus but not as often. Sites like Wiki and others say it's Panaeolus Subb. but I'm going to contest that.

I'm not totally sure about UK laws but I doubt you're looking at a site for Psilocybe mushrooms.

Do the research, learn about set and setting, learn from some lighter psychedelics like Cannabis, MDMA, Mescaline, or some other psychedelic amphetamine ... Then when you feel you're ready to step up to where the impossible becomes possible - where the big boys play. Then start messing with shrooms.

Just jumping into this water feet first can carry a very heavy toll on your mental state. If you gave 5 grams of shrooms to someone who survives this reality because they hide from their inner demons with a box made of Ego you would be opening him to his worst fears. To say he will be humbled would be a complete understatement. Without set and setting, strong entheogens are a hideous bitch goddess who straps your ass down and says, "Oh? You think this will be fun little man? 8 grams of shrooms for jollies was it then?"

[cra$h]

but if you think you're the next aristotle or some great philosfer, mushrooms will still blow your mind, but for the better. but for those who haven't droped out yet, it can get a little rough. If you think your ready, without a doubt, you're ready.

[Junket]

Either smoke some weed, or better yet, get a girlfriend.

If you are bored of life you are probably following a routine, try something new and spice it up. You don't always need drugs to get out of a rut.

Probably not what you wanted to hear but whatever..

[budsmkr69]

just some advice from swim.... start off slow and light, no matter what you decide to try..... swims advice is to start off wit maybe some good ol' mary-jane, and for physcadelics try MDMA, or a tab of LSD, amanita mushrooms are not exactly ''physcadelic''... and psilocybe mushrooms are a TOTAL MIND-FUCK!!... swims first time wit psilocybe was last night, he ate 5 grams, and was tripping BALLS!! swim cant even explain the mental and physical feelings he had... but anyway, whatever u decide to do, be safe about it, dose low and if ya need just take a little more. and one last thing, deliriants, like amanita's and such, are usually not fun, but SOME people like the experience

[leadcoffin]

What about the friends? Do they share common interests? Is their company enjoyed?