Combinations - Supplements to the Acid Experiment

[Dole654]

Five subjects have begun an experiment. This experiment consists of the consumption of a 'microdose' of lsd for thirty days. Detailed notes will be taken and reported later, of course.

For now my question is this:

What do you think the best supplement routine would be?

Somewhere along the lines of 5-HTP, a strong multivitamin with plenty of C, omega 3s?

[Euphoric]

What is the microdosage? What is the purpose of the experiment?

[Dole654]

Details will be released later.

[Beta]

Piracetam, SAM-E, Rodhiola and Phenibut (for relaxing at the end) seems to work for swim.

[radiometer]

LSD does not cause serotonin depletion or oxidative stress, so I cannot understand the reasoning for these supplements. That sounds more like a post-load routine for MDMA.

[ADVOR]

AFOAF did this same exact experiment. Except he bought a sheet and finished it in thirty days. He disappeared for thirty days and neither I nor any of my friends knew what happened to him. When we saw him again, he was a completely different person. He is now what many would call a "burn-out". I've seen him beat one of his good friends to a bloody pulp for no apparent reason. I do no suggest trying this experiment.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Scary, thanks for sharing.

[psyche]

^^ That sucks. But I've been wondering too what would happen if one would take small amounts of acid daily for a period of time. Just a treshold dose. Integrate it in your daily life. I think it could be beneficial. SWIM could run such an experiment one day if he find a regular source for the big L.

[sylenth]

PSYCHE:yeah smurf has wondered about this too as so much intriquete details can be thought of, keep us posted on the experiment fellow lab rat. as for supplements? a ordinary diet of healthy food should be fine as you cant feel good with a empty stomache on vitamins for long...

[n2opiates]

SWIM started this experiment with SWIDole , but unfortunately had to terminate it after 24 days due to a pesky illness that has just been sapping my energy. (unless SWIM feels a shit ton better when he wakes up). for phase 2 of the experiment there will be no drugs, well at least no recreational drugs. phase 2 is the nootropic phase and he has assembled piracetam, lecithin, forskohlii, and 5-htp. along with a multivitamin and perhaps omega3. my question concerns the dosage. SWIM will probably take larger doses for the first 3 days or so but then will bring it down a tad for the remainder. o, by the way, phase 2 lasts 30 days as well. so if anyone has advice regarding this, it would be much appreciated. the microdosing consisted of one quarter of a hit (approx. 20-30 mics, but unfortunately there's no way to be sure) SWIM wishes they had a more precise way to dose, but they had to work with what they could get. a much more detailed report will follow the completion of the experiment.
thanks

[sylenth]

smurf was thinking about this experiment while on lsd 2 days ago & thought it would be a good idea to try it too... but smurf has a concern regarding the facts known with tolerance build up & the period time average of two weeks.

dont you think it is a pointless endeavour? cos if your body builds up tolerance so quickly... it's a known fact that the next day if one takes the same dosage that you pretty much wont have any benefits... 'well especially a small amount such as a quarter cap each day' but this is your experiment, i look forward to the trip reports.

[n2opiates]

tolerance is a small issue. on the other hand the point isnt to "trip" in the recreational sense everyday. it's a method of subtle brain tweaking to see how the chemical can alter things such as information processing, awareness of subtle energy patterns and the like.

[sylenth]

well it's been almost three months since this thread was posted & i'm curious on the test results... wonder if these lab rats are ok?

[Tom Cruise]

as is swim, he would like to know how this would affect things like memory and concentration

[n2opiates]

greeting all, it has been a very exciting three months! swin has about a week left, after which swim will spend a few days (or more) reviewing his notes and journals from the last three months and will give all the information he can. for now, swim will just give a brief run down on whats been going on. swim divided the last 3 months into 3 phases, each approx 30 days long.

Phase 1: one 'microdose' each day. swim defines microdose as 1/4 of a 'hit' of lsd. swim believes this to be approx 25-30 micrograms, but due to the outlaw status of said chemical and the blackmarket activity required to obtain it, exact dosage is uncertain (boo!). the microdose was taken usually within and hour or two of waking (between 8 and 11am) but there were a few times when it was taken later in the day. when swim started this phase his presumptions were that it would change the way in which swim processes information on a daily basis. swim was hoping that this change would be a shift toward a more holistic view. swim also expected that sychroncities and other related events 'outside' of the 'self' would increase in frequency. surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly) siwm presumptions proved more or less true. whether this was due to keen foresight on his part or the fact that his expectations brought about a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy is still uncertain. one of the more amazing occurrences involved a lot of tension in swims personal life, both between family and friends, (some of these tensions have origins years ago). during this period of microdosing events seemed to just 'happen' which resulted in these tensions being released. (specific details will follow in a few weeks). there is more to tell, but swim will save that for later. the last thing sim will state is that tolerance, which was certainly a concern, wasn't as apparent as he thought it would be. undoubtedly the first few days were more 'intense' but the microdose was noticeably perceptible each day. in retrospect swim wishes he had incorporated a few placebo doses into the phase to account for possible placebo effects.

Phase 2: consisted of no lsd. swim had done some sessions with nootropics last year, liked the results, and decided to take a similar regimen during this phase. the nootropic 'stack' was as follows:
2.5 grams of piracetam, 250mg cdp-choline, 400mg choline bitartrate, 500mg d,l -phenylalanine, 200mg Coleus forskohlii, a Centrum Silver multivit and and Omega acid supplement
this was the morning stack and was consumed upon waking each morning. in the afternoon there was a second stack which consisted of 1.3 grams of piracetam and 500mg of choline bitartrate. this was consumed between 3 and 7pm each day. on approximately half of the night swim would take 50mg of 5htp sublingually. for the most part this was very similar to previous nootropic sessions. increased working memory, better concentration, more motivation to get productive things done. one very interesting point is that the nootropic stacks, in particularly the morning stack felt very, VERY, similar qualitatively to the microdosing. at least in terms of mental effects. the nootropic stack was a little more 'clear-headed' than the micro dose and there were, not surprisingly, less noticeable visual effects. again, more details will be given in the full report in a few weeks time.

Phase 3: consisted of continuing the nootropic regimen from phase 2. in addition to this, the microdose regimen was incorporated into phase 3. swim has thoroughly enjoyed this experiment so far, and will be finished with it in a few days. swim would give more information on phase 3, but swim is tired and has a research paper due in a few days. your interest is most appreciated, and swim looks forward to writing the full report and sharing it with you all.
peace and blessings.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	interesting, waiting to see fully detailed report
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[Tom Cruise]

very nice, swim is also very interested in starting a daily nootropic regimen and since lsd seems to be helping he may incorporate that into his daily stack as well.

[Beta]

Swiy have to much lsd or what?
Nice experiment tho

[Tom Cruise]

swiy can never have too much lsd!
and if they do, swim is always here ready to take donations :P