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Psyki, ambien is not a benzo. as to tripping on it that takes a whole conversation as to what it means to be triping. but i can see how you can easily just dismiss it. sleep deprvation have cause many a person to trip and hallucinate. |
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Sorry, you're right, ambien is not a benzodiazepine. I believe it
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Ambian does nothing for me but I have a couple of friends that take it
they say they trip on it, now I have been around them while they were on it and I was sober and I can tell you for shure that they were very fucked up. I dont know if they have as vivid hallucinations as Nhanson said they said its more like things pulsing or sort of mellting. I know it gets then high Ive seen it and there deffinatly not the kind of people who just pretend to get high because we have tried other things together with no effects. Anyway do I belive that certain people can have somthing similar to a trip on ambian YES. Do I belive everything I read NO. but diff drugs have diff effects on everyone so I cant say that its imposible to "trip" on ambian I just wish it would work fo me |
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i've tripped on ambian but only at high doses. 5-10 mg's will not do much except give you a head change unless your really sensative or combine it with alcohol. i've never seen anything that wasnt there just a disorted view of my surroundings. i was sitting in my chair when it started to sink or dip into the floor as if sink on a point. like taking some suran wrap and poking it with your finger. i got and walked towords the door. i was walking up the side of the dip. anyways i black out after a short while and woke up in my friends car puking out the window. everytime ive taking ambian ive puked and blacked out. noramlly i have a strong stomach. only ambian and methodone wafers seem to effect my stomach like that.
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I have read some reports that ambien may be in fact a delirient hallucinnogen like datura and dramamine. If this is true it may act, in part, by effecting the action of actylcholine. If this is the case then it could cause vivid hallcination in at least some people. It would also be expected to cause sleep as well. I would point out however that walking around the neighborhood on ambien is proabably not a good idea. Delirients make you just too damn crazy to be in public. Also a trip sitter really should be used with any delirients as well. |
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yeah, I couldn't really control what I did, I had ambien logic. I just
remember bits and peices. I wish I could remember everything, though. I do somehow have a video of myself talking to someone (he was really there). I sound pretty drunk or something. Fun times, though. Ambien isn't as intense for me anymore, even after months of a break. Oh well, I guess it was just one of those once in a lifetime things. |
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i tried ambien for the first time. I took 20 mg and I didn't feel anything weird. I'm addicted to lorazepam so i tried ambien mostly to stop this bad habit. moreover i didn't sleep well as with lorazepam. i had tremors,burst of heat all night long. I suppose that was more due to a sort of withdrawal symptoms from lorazepam. |
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SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ACETYLCHOLINE WHICH IS WRONG. Sorry, but acetylcholine has absolutley NOTHING to do with hallucinating. Acetylcholine is the neurotransmitter responsible for depolarizing the axon in a MOTOR neuron, therefore, you are saying that ambien is the inhibitory endorphin, not true |
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Ive only taken Ambien once, just made me fall asleep. However, my mom use to take it a few times a week to help her sleep and EVERY time she took it she would fall asleep for like 10 minutes then wake up and do all kinds of crazy shit and act all weird, and she wasnt sleep walking. My dad finally took them from her, heh. So just because it does nothing for one person doesnt mean it wont for someone else.
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I think your going to find that when it comes to sleep pills any drug in general, everyone's body is going to react differently to the drug. It's impossible to find a sleep aid that will work for every single person. It's werid and has something to do with the how our bodies are made up. Ambien works for most people but it won't work for everybody, you just need to try something else. I can take unision to sleep at night, knocks me right out, but my friend can't, it acts as a stilulant and keeps him wide awake.
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How about xyrem, I beleive this is GHB. I've taken ambien (never hallucinated) and couple other benzos but always felt kinda hungover or grogy the next day and tolerance developed quick. I never took GHB nut understand there is a dopamine bounce the next day or so after taking xyrem. all other info i've read about it is positive. I hear getting a script from a doctor ain't easy though. swim has an appointment this week and is going to ask. no harm in askin right?
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Acetylcholine is a neurotransmitter that plays a role in many functions of the nervous system, including motor functions. Drugs that inhibit the action of acetylcholine are often delirient hallucinogens when taken in sufficient dose. This is true of the tropanes as well as dramamine and it's relatives. As far as I know the hallucingenic effects of these drugs are believed to be caused by the inhibition of acetylcholine, though other neurotransmitter systems may be involved as well. |
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took .5mg of xanax waited 2 hous snorted 5mg of ambien smoked a bowl took two 10mg ambien and .5mg kolonopin smoked a bowl and a few cigs took .5 under the tounge of clonopin snorted 12.5 mg of klonopin smoked a bowl gonna take an ambie oraly adn then dissolve .5mg of klonopin while smoking a bow then short this other 12.5 mg line of Klonopin Then its just weed tonbaco and under touge with cigambien as i feel i need it now i super crazy f uckedv up |
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dude why don't you just drink a fifth of Jack Daniels it'll probably do the same thing as all that stuff -- knock you out and make you sick as shit, maybe even kill you.If youwake up and you'll still feel like crap.
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here is my first ambien experience from last night.
the day before i did not sleep a wink, so i got up and went about my day. later that day my doc prescribed me some ambien to help me sleep because a recent surgery i've had it causing me pain and making sleep diffcult. i then slept from 4pm until 11pm. i woke up and watched tv, took some lortab elixer. 75mg hydrocodone/500mg acetominophen. then i took one of my 5mg ambiens. i went to bed about 10 minutes after this. at first i was noticing very faint CEV's, halos of light and such that would take form into animals or objects. then something VERY interesting occurred. i started to feel as if i was being dragged over my sheets, floor, up the wall, then eventually down stairs, etc. i could actually FEEL the friction of the sheets, carpetting and wall. even minute details like the sheets rippling under my weight/movement and folding up. it was so, so strange. after like 4 minutes of this i slipped into an extremely vivid dream, most of which i can't remember now. then i woke up from it. after a few minutes the process repeated itself but i don't think i ever woke up from the second dream i just slipped into normal sleep. i woke up about 6.5 hours later feeling refreshed. i've got 4 more of these, i hope they keep working. <!-- var SymRealOnLoad; var SymReal; Sym() { window.open = SymWinOpen; if(SymReal != null) SymReal(); } SymOnLoad() { if(SymRealOnLoad != null) SymRealOnLoad(); window.open = SymRealWinOpen; SymReal = window.; window. = Sym; } SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; window.onload = SymOnLoad; //--> |
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ambien has caused some people to trip although its rare i do find that
if you take about 30 mg you will be totally fucked up i way only 120 lb's tho. i have never tripped while on ambien exept once i say a few colored lines for 3 seconds. mostly it makes me gigle, forget, not think straight at all, see everything blury and stumble a bit. once i took a bunch and tried to make a maltove cocktail glad that didn't work. |
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some of my friends say it actually works better if you take LESS than the prescribed dose<!--
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thats wierd that doesn't happen to me
i think taking 3 10mg pills crushing them i dont even remove the time release coating from the pile out of fear of losing some ambien putting it into some cold water and mixing and mashing it in there then down it all at once i tried this for the first time today and i was much more fucked up than i thought i would be. it was pretty fun. |
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yeah, i don't even remeber posting all that stuff i did earlier, bad times that night if i recall, wound up taking 80mg of ambien and walkin around the block smokin a cigarette and drinking an Amp. Talked to some guy watering his lawn at like 7 in the AM and fell asleep for an hour on my front lawn, bad times coming down was the worst thing ever, felt like i wanted to die for 4 days, don't f*** with ambien
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fuck 80mg of ambien seems ridiculous to me. u must be fucking crazy.
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i have taken 100 mg of ambien before and i have to say id never do it again and was realy stupid. i took 10 10mg pills and OD. Lucky that im even here today.Very stupid thing of me and i am very thankful that im still here today. id have to say that if u do ambien to start slow. peace sKiNnY |
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Ambien does not become lethal until some ridiculous dose (it was either
400 or 800mg). I looked into this myself once during some bad times. Basically, not even an entire bottle of these things stands to be fatal, from my own reading. Do not take this as an endorsement to take several hundred mg of ambien.</span> I mention it only to point out that taking 80mg is far from suicide. When I first started taking ambien, the effects were strongest. I would not call them hallucinations; more like visual distortions. I used to sit and stare at text on my monitor because the words would ripple slightly, or crawl. Over time, the dose required to achieve these sorts of effects increased up to 30mg. 30 mg is a cutoff point for me. I weigh 175 lbs, and any time I take 30mg or more, I simply don't remember anything from about a half hour later onward. Almost nothing. However, friends and family(!) have experienced me in a very strange state during the time I can't remember. I have been told I'm non-responsive (spaced out), and very obviously confused. I talk nonsense. One time I told my parents</span> a lengthy story about the adventure of cherry-pie man. There are a wealth of similarly insane things I have reportedly done, and a handful of slightly less insane ones. One night I slept with an otherwise platonic friend, and I barely remember anything. In short, ambien is actually a lot of fun until you hit your personal threshhold, at which point you won't be able to remember the fun you were having. I still miss the days before my tolerance developed. |
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I skipped a lot of the posts, because I just started reading this thread now from beginning.
But, I have had maaaany experiences on Ambien, all good for the most part. Most of what the NHanson guy said, sorry if I spelled it wrong, was probably true to an extent. I was prescribed Ambien about a month ago because I was having sleeping problems due to one of my other scripts. So, I was just reeeeally getting into pills at the time, so I decided to have a few experiments with this new Ambien.. The first time I did more than my prescribed 10mg, I took 3 of them, a total of 30mg for those not too great at math. You get some pretty good trips on it for real. I was out on my porch smoking a cigarette, and I ended up talking to "people" for like 15 minutes before I realized that these "people" were just shadows. You act really loopy when you're on it. Say some really weird crazy shit. It's good if you want to be the life of a party. I've proposed to friends on it. Thought I had twins with another friend. Told some weird ass stories. It's great when you're on it, but you remember pretty much nothing after you sleep. It's great to hear the stories from other people about what you did when you were on it. The most I've taken at this point is 50mg, which was fucking insane. Everything goes insanely quick and everything just mixes together. Like places you go and stuff. I've never hallucinated, but have tripped pretty good. I'd definetly recommend Ambien, and I bet soon it's going to become a pretty popular pill. Sorry for the long post. Menik |
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