Opinions - 2c-i / Lsd

[Bwen]

I have done 20mg of 2C-I and had a great time. Is LSD really intense? or is it like mushrooms but with visuals that don't exist?

[mariecurie]

20 mg of 2C-I is a fairly visual experience, but it isn't a particularly great one in my opinion.



Mushrooms tend to have the hardest come up of any drug and visuals can definitely get RIDICULOUS at higher doses.



LSD is just as visual as mushrooms at high doses, but the problem is
that today's LSD is ten times weaker than LSD in the '60s. If you do
the right dose though, you'll be very happy.



I think mushrooms and LSD are of comparable quality, although LSD is a
much cleaner high because mushrooms give that poisoned feeling. LSD is
also the longest of the three drugs and the moodiest. I find this to be
very helpful in being introspective.



Mushrooms and acid are both far better than 2C-I in the opinion of myself and those I know.

[shaun3416]

how much lsd would you have to take to make ithave aspotent as it was back in the 60's? how big are the doses today?

[korky8097]

there is no way of knowing unless you know your dealer and you are 100%
sure he knows his shit. Most LSD is around 60-100mcg usually on
the lower end of the scale. But dont lose hope, there is still
good acid, the shit i get is 300mcg! Back in the day they had one
chemist (forget his name) who make 1000mcg hits! Usually it was
500-600 from what ive heard.

[QGdoxl]

swim was thinking of trying 5-meo-amt anyone have experience with this one?

[rosstifer]

About the 2ci compared to lsd/mushrooms, I thought 20mg of 2ci
felt a lot like a low dose, maybe a half eigth, of shrooms. Id say if u
liked 2ci you would love acid. As far as 5-meo-amt, it was going
around my school like 3 years ago. I never tried any, but from what i
heard it was very fun. Along the lines of candy flipping and quite a
long trip.

[Atman_Brahman]

Har har har



I've done LSD six times! It's coming back to Canada. The
stuff I got was motherlovin' strong. Ha, what a crappy word to
censor myself with. I am now shameful. I cover my penis
with a fig leaf, as Adam did. Now I shit in the Garden, as Adam
did.



I nearly overdosed on Ecstacy the only time I took it, it was a strong
ass pill, supposedly also cut with Meth. I recieved such bizarre
hallucinations, I felt I was upon the edge of a precipe, teetering over
the side, and if I went any further, I would plunge forever into the
abyss of madness, like so many others before me...



Koel!



Atman Brahman

[QGdoxl]

if you were that bad off on an "extacy" trip I am almost cerian that it
was laced swim's had e laced with 2c-i before. But if it was as
bad as you say I am betting it was PMA I've heard lots of bad shit
about that stuff latly. and people ARE putting it in E.



What color was the pill? I've heard of ones with speckles of
different colors all thru them being cut with PMA (not to say every e
pill with specs out there have pma but I know a few ppl who ate the
spec'd ones and got ill and had bad trips)

[QGdoxl]

Originally Posted by Atman_Brahman

Har har har



I've done LSD six times! It's coming back to Canada.

Koel!



Atman Brahman

Swim Isn't too sure why he would bother going through the hassles
of trying to find LSD, when stuff like 2c-e 5-meo-amt and other RC's
delivered to your door, and not risk getting busted on a street corner



PS

BTW I hear that a fair amount of the "blotters" on the street are not even LSD but 5-meo-amt anywayz

[mariecurie]

No 5-MeO-AMT on blotter is VERY rare. SWIM has seen it once and
encountered hundreds of sheets of acid very recently. Also
LSD>>2C-E and LSD>>5-MeO-AMT, which is why people would
much rather have it. SWIM gave away a half gram of 5-MeO-AMT (~50
doses) when he got LSD recently

[QGdoxl]

Oh really froms swim's experience with LSD you must take large doses to
get the effects you are seeking. The effects swim would be
seeking from LSD would be the trip he had the 3rd time he ever got LSD
it was liquid on a sugar cube. Only 1 hit



faces were melting and floors were like rubber. he has not had
that experience with blotters even at 6 hits and that is why swim no
longer bothers much with LSD.

[mariecurie]

Remember QGdoxl that back when Timothy Leary was around, LSD hits used
to be ten times as strong as they are today. Rick Doblin, the head of
MAPS, said that he has been testing every hit of blotter he's seen in
the past few years and none has been greater than fifty micrograms.
This is such a low dose of LSD that it would be like taking eight
milligrams of 2C-I or so. And this is the BEST blotter today.



Don't get turned off from (arguably) the greatest psychedelic of all
time just because drug dealers are giving you really weak hits

[QGdoxl]

I am not turned off per se I just wasn't getting from it what I
wanted and like you said best hits around 50mics? so then is the
dude goinng to sell me 5 hits for the price of one? no so I start
asking about RC's



seems maybeee cheaper easier (to find) and not as illegall





btw I am under 30yrs old I never took a hit from Terrance's times

[mariecurie]

Seems like a reasonable plan to me


The latest acid to come around my neck of the woods doses out like this:


One hit: You'll feel the acid. Might have minor closed eye visuals. Feels light and enjoyable. With pot would be pretty interesting. Six to eight hour trip.


Two Hits: The acid will do it's thing and be much more realized, but won't be overwhelming. A great dose for first timers. Open eyed visuals are slight and closed eyes are getting very nice. Twelve hour trip.


Three Hits: Can be a bit overwhelming at the peak. Closed eye visuals are ridiculous. Open eyed at the peak are all over the place but not especially transformative - ie. things will be melting and breathing but still recognizable. Nice long peak. 12+ hour trip. Little speedy on the comedown.


Four Hits: After forty-five minutes the only comment was "no way can I get any higher!" Boy was I wrong. Couldn't recognize anything in the world. Had eight hours where the LSD was a living person standing in my head playing with my mind. Comeup was unpleasant but totally worth it. Had the distinct feeling of being "drunk with trippiness." Commented at one point that "the last thing I need is to be tripping more than I am." 14+ hour trip which was speedy on the comedown.

[QGdoxl]

well if that is the case swim was looking for a 3 hit experience and
then possibly a 4 hit experience. Has had nothing come close to
that every in his life. Unfortunatly still searching.
5-meo-amt swim may have some access to, but he never sees LSD. He
may also be able to get 2c-i and 2c-e so they seem like almost viable
alteratives right now.

[mariecurie]

I've heard 5-MeO-AMT described as candyflipping and I'd like to know if
anyone has tried it and agrees. I know some people who went through a
gram by snorting ten to fifteen milligram piles of it and loved it, but
I find that the nausea factor is high and the trip is rather
uninteresting at low doses I've done. There are certainly a lot of
visuals, but they aren't clean. Everything just looks smeared.

5-Meo-Amt seems very appealing. The only thing i heard against it is people who were snorting average to high doses getting bleeding out of their EARS