Drug info - Extraction - How long did you leave seeds in water?

[splish6]

If you used the cold water extraction method and actually got some effects, how long did you leave the crushed up seeds (MG, HBWR, Ololuiqui, etc.) in the water?

Please share details, like if you used distilled water, if you refridgerated the water, did you use lemon juice, etc.

[theratdude64]

SWIM Has tried other methods of Extracting and wa disappointed at those methods twice so screwit...he's trying the Water Extract this time. Left it in for about 1.5 hours or a little bit longer and made a pretty saturated looking liquid. Seems Promising. He will tell what to post up later

theratdude64 added 301 Minutes and 0 Seconds later...

Jack shit Pupil Dilation is about it

[ljfe]

Pupil dilation...Can you feel LSA euphoria?

[theratdude64]

SWIM says nothing really happened at all. Perhaps some Significant Colors, but didn't really even get Negative Effects beyond VERY SLIGHT arm/leg pain. Perhaps Not 100% distilled perfect water is to blame? Had the extract of 1,400 seeds and not much happened

[ljfe]

Damn, sorry to hear a 1,400 seed extraction didn't impress SWIY. SWIM hasn't done a CWE in forever. SWIY should seek Ololiuqui, they can be chewed.

[theratdude64]

wasn't all at once, duno of they're like shrooms or not? Will they "Stack" if ya take more n more to try to add to it? SWIM's friend LSD won't do that, but not sure with LSA. SWIM is sure it's something he's doin wrong but doesn't know what... The seeds are from April of this year, thats not too old is it?

[Laszlo1]

Swim got intense LSA euphoria, with great tactile enhancement. But no visuals or the feeling of "tripping"

Swim left them in the water for an hour.

[Bajeda]

Originally Posted by Laszlo1

Swim got intense LSA euphoria, with great tactile enhancement. But no visuals or the feeling of "tripping"

Swim left them in the water for an hour.

What seeds? It doesn't help at all if you don't give specifics. Were they Morning Glory seeds or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds? What strain? How did swiy break up the seeds before starting the extraction, and did he acidify the water?

[Stiney]

Swim has tried 4 cold water extractions on HBWR seeds, using 8 seeds each time. There was 5 weeks, 3 weeks, 3weeks, and 3 weeks between experiences respectavely. Each time using tap water with nothing added. The first time he left the seeds for 6 hours as per instructions that came with the seeds. The second time he left them for 2 hours, 2 hours for the third time, and 1 hour for the 4th time. From this he has come to the conclusion that anything over 2 hours is unnescesary, the first experience gave the same strenght of effects as the 2nd and 3rd. The forth time when the seeds were allowed sit for one hour the effects seemed to be significantly less, however part of that may have been that it was swims forth time experiencing the trip and a loss of novelty may have made it seem to be less effective. If swim was to make a recommendation on the lenght of time to allow seeds to sit in the water he would say anything over 2-3 hours is unnescesary but that anything under 2 hours is not long enough to extract the bulk of the LSA.

[AbbaZaba]

I think you guys are right about it not needing more than a few hours. I think also that cold is crucial, as is acidity. Swiz has had 3 recent experiences with MG seeds: ~100, 200, 300.

The first time swiz went the sublingual route- grinding 100 Heavenly Blues up to a powder mixed with a tad of cinnamon and put in a teabag like a dip pouch. Held for about 30 mins and swallowed a little bit on purpose. Light nausea, little buzzing, and definitely was relaxed for the night.

The 2nd and 3rd times swiz grounded Heavenly Blues to a powder, added powder to already chilled distilled water(about 2 cups), added artificial lemon juice, and powdered dramamine(HCl base^acidity?), stirred and let chill in fridge for ~2hrs. Both times swiz said he had noticeable LSD-like effects in the form of light visuals and heavy body buzzing. He combined it with mj to battle the nausea, even w a dram, that seemed worse than the sublingual method.

If it's possible, swiz suggests going for HBWR seeds instead, they are much easier and seem to be more consistent as well. Swiz has used the methods mentioned above with success. Also, he likes to use Peppermint extract with HBWR CWE's.

[theratdude64]

SWIM tried, Ice cold Distilled Water kept in fridge, Peppermint and lime juice, nothing. Theres the picture guide to extraction the dude uses 3500 Seeds and produces 2 Gelcaps packed. SWIM is nervous to try with that damn many... but is out of ideas for normal amount